On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 14:53:00 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 7/21/16 2:36 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 13:26:06 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 7/21/16 12:59 PM, wrote:


Sieg Heil...corporations uber alles
....

"Your post is not responsive."

Actually his post is telling of his ignorance. He is trying to
conflate American capitalism with the nazis but the fact is, the nazis
nationalized all of their corporations, much as Harry would do.

It also ignores the fact that when the government competes directly
with a corporation, the corporation always delivers the product or
service at a lower price with higher quality, in spite of the
government agency being subsidized by the tax payer, so they end up
paying twice.
Just look at TSA to see that in action.


Uh, no. I was simply expressing my disdain for the belief that America
and Americans exist so they can be exploited by almighty corporations.

You prefer that we get exploited by the government

I have no interest in nationalizing corporations.

Unless they are in education, airport security, energy or health care.


You spend a lot of time here putting your spin on what you perceive to
be my thoughts. Your perceptions are invariably wrong.

I base my presumptions on what you write here. I guess you are saying
you are not expressing the truth when you write. I suppose that is
symptomatic of your propensity to confuse facts with satire.

On 7/21/16 3:01 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 14:53:00 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 7/21/16 2:36 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 13:26:06 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 7/21/16 12:59 PM, wrote:


Sieg Heil...corporations uber alles
....

"Your post is not responsive."

Actually his post is telling of his ignorance. He is trying to
conflate American capitalism with the nazis but the fact is, the nazis
nationalized all of their corporations, much as Harry would do.

It also ignores the fact that when the government competes directly
with a corporation, the corporation always delivers the product or
service at a lower price with higher quality, in spite of the
government agency being subsidized by the tax payer, so they end up
paying twice.
Just look at TSA to see that in action.


Uh, no. I was simply expressing my disdain for the belief that America
and Americans exist so they can be exploited by almighty corporations.

You prefer that we get exploited by the government

I have no interest in nationalizing corporations.

Unless they are in education, airport security, energy or health care.


You spend a lot of time here putting your spin on what you perceive to
be my thoughts. Your perceptions are invariably wrong.

I base my presumptions on what you write here. I guess you are saying
you are not expressing the truth when you write. I suppose that is
symptomatic of your propensity to confuse facts with satire.



No, you are projecting what you think I think or believe. Your powers of
deduction are limited. I've never said I wanted to nationalize
education, airport security, energy, or provision of health care. I
don't have secret wishes to do it, either.

On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 15:23:58 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 7/21/16 3:01 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 14:53:00 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 7/21/16 2:36 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 13:26:06 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 7/21/16 12:59 PM, wrote:


Sieg Heil...corporations uber alles
....

"Your post is not responsive."

Actually his post is telling of his ignorance. He is trying to
conflate American capitalism with the nazis but the fact is, the nazis
nationalized all of their corporations, much as Harry would do.

It also ignores the fact that when the government competes directly
with a corporation, the corporation always delivers the product or
service at a lower price with higher quality, in spite of the
government agency being subsidized by the tax payer, so they end up
paying twice.
Just look at TSA to see that in action.


Uh, no. I was simply expressing my disdain for the belief that America
and Americans exist so they can be exploited by almighty corporations.

You prefer that we get exploited by the government

I have no interest in nationalizing corporations.

Unless they are in education, airport security, energy or health care.


You spend a lot of time here putting your spin on what you perceive to
be my thoughts. Your perceptions are invariably wrong.

I base my presumptions on what you write here. I guess you are saying
you are not expressing the truth when you write. I suppose that is
symptomatic of your propensity to confuse facts with satire.



No, you are projecting what you think I think or believe. Your powers of
deduction are limited. I've never said I wanted to nationalize
education, airport security, energy, or provision of health care. I
don't have secret wishes to do it, either.

Bull**** You have criticized the privatization of any government
function. Government schools are the only schools you support. I have
never heard you say a good thing about privatized airplane screeners
opposed to TSA and you certainly seem to want a government health care
system. If not, stop pimping them.

On 7/21/16 3:41 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 15:23:58 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 7/21/16 3:01 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 14:53:00 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 7/21/16 2:36 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 13:26:06 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 7/21/16 12:59 PM, wrote:


Sieg Heil...corporations uber alles
....

"Your post is not responsive."

Actually his post is telling of his ignorance. He is trying to
conflate American capitalism with the nazis but the fact is, the nazis
nationalized all of their corporations, much as Harry would do.

It also ignores the fact that when the government competes directly
with a corporation, the corporation always delivers the product or
service at a lower price with higher quality, in spite of the
government agency being subsidized by the tax payer, so they end up
paying twice.
Just look at TSA to see that in action.


Uh, no. I was simply expressing my disdain for the belief that America
and Americans exist so they can be exploited by almighty corporations.

You prefer that we get exploited by the government

I have no interest in nationalizing corporations.

Unless they are in education, airport security, energy or health care.


You spend a lot of time here putting your spin on what you perceive to
be my thoughts. Your perceptions are invariably wrong.

I base my presumptions on what you write here. I guess you are saying
you are not expressing the truth when you write. I suppose that is
symptomatic of your propensity to confuse facts with satire.



No, you are projecting what you think I think or believe. Your powers of
deduction are limited. I've never said I wanted to nationalize
education, airport security, energy, or provision of health care. I
don't have secret wishes to do it, either.

Bull**** You have criticized the privatization of any government
function. Government schools are the only schools you support. I have
never heard you say a good thing about privatized airplane screeners
opposed to TSA and you certainly seem to want a government health care
system. If not, stop pimping them.



I have no problems with private k12 schools so long as public funds are
not diverted to support them. I support a single payer system for health
care payment, but that is not a government health care system. You are
too binary to understand

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/21/16 3:41 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 15:23:58 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 7/21/16 3:01 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 14:53:00 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 7/21/16 2:36 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 13:26:06 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 7/21/16 12:59 PM, wrote:


Sieg Heil...corporations uber alles
....

"Your post is not responsive."

Actually his post is telling of his ignorance. He is trying to
conflate American capitalism with the nazis but the fact is,
the nazis
nationalized all of their corporations, much as Harry would do.

It also ignores the fact that when the government competes
directly
with a corporation, the corporation always delivers the product or
service at a lower price with higher quality, in spite of the
government agency being subsidized by the tax payer, so they
end up
paying twice.
Just look at TSA to see that in action.


Uh, no. I was simply expressing my disdain for the belief that
America
and Americans exist so they can be exploited by almighty
corporations.

You prefer that we get exploited by the government

I have no interest in nationalizing corporations.

Unless they are in education, airport security, energy or health
care.


You spend a lot of time here putting your spin on what you
perceive to
be my thoughts. Your perceptions are invariably wrong.

I base my presumptions on what you write here. I guess you are saying
you are not expressing the truth when you write. I suppose that is
symptomatic of your propensity to confuse facts with satire.



No, you are projecting what you think I think or believe. Your
powers of
deduction are limited. I've never said I wanted to nationalize
education, airport security, energy, or provision of health care. I
don't have secret wishes to do it, either.

Bull**** You have criticized the privatization of any government
function. Government schools are the only schools you support. I have
never heard you say a good thing about privatized airplane screeners
opposed to TSA and you certainly seem to want a government health care
system. If not, stop pimping them.



I have no problems with private k12 schools so long as public funds
are not diverted to support them. I support a single payer system for
health care payment, but that is not a government health care system.
You are too binary to understand

What are "public funds"? It's tax money paid by the people and
companies run by people. I realize you are fuzzy on taxes but a voucher
system is great for education. People can choose where they spend their
tax dollars and choose better schools for their kids. The public school
system is forced to compete. Scary, eh?

Explain how a single-payer heath care system would not be run or
controlled by the government.

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/21/16 3:41 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 15:23:58 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 7/21/16 3:01 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 14:53:00 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 7/21/16 2:36 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 13:26:06 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 7/21/16 12:59 PM, wrote:


Sieg Heil...corporations uber alles
....

"Your post is not responsive."

Actually his post is telling of his ignorance. He is trying to
conflate American capitalism with the nazis but the fact is, the nazis
nationalized all of their corporations, much as Harry would do.

It also ignores the fact that when the government competes directly
with a corporation, the corporation always delivers the product or
service at a lower price with higher quality, in spite of the
government agency being subsidized by the tax payer, so they end up
paying twice.
Just look at TSA to see that in action.


Uh, no. I was simply expressing my disdain for the belief that America
and Americans exist so they can be exploited by almighty corporations.

You prefer that we get exploited by the government

I have no interest in nationalizing corporations.

Unless they are in education, airport security, energy or health care.


You spend a lot of time here putting your spin on what you perceive to
be my thoughts. Your perceptions are invariably wrong.

I base my presumptions on what you write here. I guess you are saying
you are not expressing the truth when you write. I suppose that is
symptomatic of your propensity to confuse facts with satire.



No, you are projecting what you think I think or believe. Your powers of
deduction are limited. I've never said I wanted to nationalize
education, airport security, energy, or provision of health care. I
don't have secret wishes to do it, either.

Bull**** You have criticized the privatization of any government
function. Government schools are the only schools you support. I have
never heard you say a good thing about privatized airplane screeners
opposed to TSA and you certainly seem to want a government health care
system. If not, stop pimping them.



I have no problems with private k12 schools so long as public funds are
not diverted to support them. I support a single payer system for health
care payment, but that is not a government health care system. You are
too binary to understand


Those parents paid in tax dollars for schools. Why can they not get a
voucher for the use of the money in a private school? Seems as if most of
the politicos send there kids to private schools. Is that because the are
religious nut-cases, or they produce better results?

On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 16:24:23 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

No, you are projecting what you think I think or believe. Your powers of
deduction are limited. I've never said I wanted to nationalize
education, airport security, energy, or provision of health care. I
don't have secret wishes to do it, either.

Bull**** You have criticized the privatization of any government
function. Government schools are the only schools you support. I have
never heard you say a good thing about privatized airplane screeners
opposed to TSA and you certainly seem to want a government health care
system. If not, stop pimping them.



I have no problems with private k12 schools so long as public funds are
not diverted to support them.

So you want people to pay for their kid's school TWICE?
If you are taking your kid out of the public system and relieving that
pressure on the classroom, they should, at least, get the paltry 40%
of their school taxes that actually trickle down to the classroom,
back.
I would even agree to a means test on that.

I support a single payer system for health
care payment, but that is not a government health care system. You are
too binary to understand.

If the medical professionals are getting paid by the government, they
work for the government. At that point you have a two tier medical
system like the UK. Private health care for rich people who don't need
the subsidy will be first rate with all the advancements possible.
Government health care will be 3d world doctors, rationing care and
using the cheapest technology if it is even available to them.

On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 20:00:43 -0400, Alex wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:


I have no problems with private k12 schools so long as public funds
are not diverted to support them. I support a single payer system for
health care payment, but that is not a government health care system.
You are too binary to understand

What are "public funds"? It's tax money paid by the people and
companies run by people. I realize you are fuzzy on taxes but a voucher
system is great for education. People can choose where they spend their
tax dollars and choose better schools for their kids. The public school
system is forced to compete. Scary, eh?

That scares the **** out of the public school system because even
though the voucher is carved out of the funds left after all of the
admin and infrastructure is paid for, the charter schools can still
compete quite effectively. Lee County spends more per student than the
most expensive secular private school in town.

On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 19:25:35 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

I have no problems with private k12 schools so long as public funds are
not diverted to support them. I support a single payer system for health
care payment, but that is not a government health care system. You are
too binary to understand


Those parents paid in tax dollars for schools. Why can they not get a
voucher for the use of the money in a private school? Seems as if most of
the politicos send there kids to private schools. Is that because the are
religious nut-cases, or they produce better results?

My daughter has pulled her kids out of the classroom and she is
teaching them at home in "virtual school". It is run by the government
school system but home schooling on the web.
For some reason, the taxes still do not go down in spite of the fact
that they do not have to pay for a school building, food service,
buses and all of the maintenance issues those entail. The admin
building actually got bigger.
Only the government could design a web based business that actually
has more infrastructure and administrative cost than a brick and
mortar operation.

wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 16:24:23 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

No, you are projecting what you think I think or believe. Your powers of
deduction are limited. I've never said I wanted to nationalize
education, airport security, energy, or provision of health care. I
don't have secret wishes to do it, either.

Bull**** You have criticized the privatization of any government
function. Government schools are the only schools you support. I have
never heard you say a good thing about privatized airplane screeners
opposed to TSA and you certainly seem to want a government health care
system. If not, stop pimping them.



I have no problems with private k12 schools so long as public funds are
not diverted to support them.

So you want people to pay for their kid's school TWICE?
If you are taking your kid out of the public system and relieving that
pressure on the classroom, they should, at least, get the paltry 40%
of their school taxes that actually trickle down to the classroom,
back.
I would even agree to a means test on that.

I support a single payer system for health
care payment, but that is not a government health care system. You are
too binary to understand.

If the medical professionals are getting paid by the government, they
work for the government. At that point you have a two tier medical
system like the UK. Private health care for rich people who don't need
the subsidy will be first rate with all the advancements possible.
Government health care will be 3d world doctors, rationing care and
using the cheapest technology if it is even available to them.




I remember back in the 1970's there was one MRI in all of British Columbia.
While there were 5 in the San Francisco Bay Area alone. So, MRI time had
to be severely rationed in BC. Government health care?