On Fri, 16 Dec 2016 06:31:29 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

I like that type of boat in the dusk picture. Somewhat like a canoe but powered with a double bladed paddle.
I remember one called a Cayman listed on a Site. I asked a couple-worker who's husband owned a kayak rental and guided tour business if he could order me one but nothing came of it. Then they disappeared from the site. Like the idea of them better than the sit on type.

That is a kayak. If you are a white water kayaker, you get a boot that
seals the hole in the boat to your waistband so you can roll it over
without swamping the boat. In warm water, they just rock it and slosh
the water out.

On Fri, 16 Dec 2016 09:49:26 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

True North wrote:
I like that type of boat in the dusk picture. Somewhat like a canoe but
powered with a double bladed paddle.
I remember one called a Cayman listed on a Site. I asked a couple-worker
who's husband owned a kayak rental and guided tour business if he could
order me one but nothing came of it. Then they disappeared from the site.
Like the idea of them better than the sit on type.


At your age and physical ability, you need a Sit On Top kayak. Sit in are
hard to enter and exit, and if they turn over you have a good chance of
drowning while upside down. A good sit on top, you fall off and swim free
unless you have too many leashes on your equipment. You can buy an older
Ocean Kayak Malibu for a couple hundred US dollars. I have a Hobie Outback
pedal kayak. Which are very stable and the pedals mean I can move along
hands free and use my fishing pole. Downside, is my 2009 would still sell
for $1100 or so. Brand new is around $2400.

Henc has one of them that has outriggers and a sail along with the
pedals and a motor pad.
I think I would have more than one boat. ;-)

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Henk's%20boat.jpg

True North wrote:
On Friday, 16 December 2016 11:49:31 UTC-4, Califbill wrote:
True North wrote:
I like that type of boat in the dusk picture. Somewhat like a canoe but
powered with a double bladed paddle.
I remember one called a Cayman listed on a Site. I asked a couple-worker
who's husband owned a kayak rental and guided tour business if he could
order me one but nothing came of it. Then they disappeared from the site.
Like the idea of them better than the sit on type.


At your age and physical ability, you need a Sit On Top kayak. Sit in are
hard to enter and exit, and if they turn over you have a good chance of
drowning while upside down. A good sit on top, you fall off and swim free
unless you have too many leashes on your equipment. You can buy an older
Ocean Kayak Malibu for a couple hundred US dollars. I have a Hobie Outback
pedal kayak. Which are very stable and the pedals mean I can move along
hands free and use my fishing pole. Downside, is my 2009 would still sell
for $1100 or so. Brand new is around $2400.



Say what? My "age and physical ability"??
Don't confuse me with the old farts in here...I am a young 67 years old
and exercise regularly. Whatever y'all pay for those kayaks would be an
extra 40 to 50% up here....mostly due to the exchange rate.
I ordered an Newsboy Apple style cap from a Californis company on Nov 26.
It finally arrived on Dec 14. The $27.45 US cap ended up costing me
$59.66 CDN after shipping and the difference between our currencies.


I go to the gym regularly at 73, and even at 67 was not as limber as at 30.
Look at a used kayak. And I quoted US dollars. Look at Craigslist Maine
and take a weekend trip.

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/16/16 12:07 PM, True North wrote:
On Friday, 16 December 2016 11:49:31 UTC-4, Califbill wrote:
True North wrote:
I like that type of boat in the dusk picture. Somewhat like a canoe but
powered with a double bladed paddle.
I remember one called a Cayman listed on a Site. I asked a couple-worker
who's husband owned a kayak rental and guided tour business if he could
order me one but nothing came of it. Then they disappeared from the site.
Like the idea of them better than the sit on type.


At your age and physical ability, you need a Sit On Top kayak. Sit in are
hard to enter and exit, and if they turn over you have a good chance of
drowning while upside down. A good sit on top, you fall off and swim free
unless you have too many leashes on your equipment. You can buy an older
Ocean Kayak Malibu for a couple hundred US dollars. I have a Hobie Outback
pedal kayak. Which are very stable and the pedals mean I can move along
hands free and use my fishing pole. Downside, is my 2009 would still sell
for $1100 or so. Brand new is around $2400.



Say what? My "age and physical ability"??
Don't confuse me with the old farts in here...I am a young 67 years old
and exercise regularly. Whatever y'all pay for those kayaks would be an
extra 40 to 50% up here....mostly due to the exchange rate.
I ordered an Newsboy Apple style cap from a Californis company on Nov
26. It finally arrived on Dec 14. The $27.45 US cap ended up costing me
$59.66 CDN after shipping and the difference between our currencies.


Not to worry. After Trump assumes the throne, you will still have a
country worth living in...and we won't.


Trump going to cut off your welfare check?

wrote:
On Fri, 16 Dec 2016 09:49:26 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

True North wrote:
I like that type of boat in the dusk picture. Somewhat like a canoe but
powered with a double bladed paddle.
I remember one called a Cayman listed on a Site. I asked a couple-worker
who's husband owned a kayak rental and guided tour business if he could
order me one but nothing came of it. Then they disappeared from the site.
Like the idea of them better than the sit on type.


At your age and physical ability, you need a Sit On Top kayak. Sit in are
hard to enter and exit, and if they turn over you have a good chance of
drowning while upside down. A good sit on top, you fall off and swim free
unless you have too many leashes on your equipment. You can buy an older
Ocean Kayak Malibu for a couple hundred US dollars. I have a Hobie Outback
pedal kayak. Which are very stable and the pedals mean I can move along
hands free and use my fishing pole. Downside, is my 2009 would still sell
for $1100 or so. Brand new is around $2400.

Henc has one of them that has outriggers and a sail along with the
pedals and a motor pad.
I think I would have more than one boat. ;-)

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Henk's%20boat.jpg


I can get a sail and outrigger for for mine. But have one power boat,
canoe, Hobie outback and a Ocean Kayak Aegean tandem kayak. And a float
tube.

wrote:
On Fri, 16 Dec 2016 06:31:29 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

I like that type of boat in the dusk picture. Somewhat like a canoe but
powered with a double bladed paddle.
I remember one called a Cayman listed on a Site. I asked a couple-worker
who's husband owned a kayak rental and guided tour business if he could
order me one but nothing came of it. Then they disappeared from the
site. Like the idea of them better than the sit on type.

That is a kayak. If you are a white water kayaker, you get a boot that
seals the hole in the boat to your waistband so you can roll it over
without swamping the boat. In warm water, they just rock it and slosh
the water out.


Even the Sea Kayaks have the boot. Still a pain to get upright.

On Fri, 16 Dec 2016 13:07:01 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

That is a kayak. If you are a white water kayaker, you get a boot that
seals the hole in the boat to your waistband so you can roll it over
without swamping the boat. In warm water, they just rock it and slosh
the water out.


Even the Sea Kayaks have the boot. Still a pain to get upright.

I never see the boots here but the water is warm enough where it is
not an issue. The white water guys will just roll them to cool off and
come back up rowing.
These are usually young guys who are about half nuts anyway.