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....while navigating through a crowd.
But he was caught up in a really tough situation. http://gcaptain.com/captain-has-lice...eid=1fb2ec477f --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 14:34:38 -0400,
wrote: On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 14:02:32 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 13:43:52 -0400, wrote: ...while navigating through a crowd. But he was caught up in a really tough situation. http://gcaptain.com/captain-has-lice...eid=1fb2ec477f --- He should have stopped and waited for the CG to clear the channel. === That would be the text book solution of course. I'm guessing that he thought the CG would open up a path for him, and by the time he realized that wasn't going to happen, he was in too deep. The wind coming from his port side was blowing him out of the channel and he had little or no steerageway for maneuvering. His only hope at that point would have required powerful bow and stern thrusters which he probably didn't have. USCG was really at fault for not keeping the channel clear in my opinion. Those boats run on a regular schedule and everyone should have known he was coming. I agree it is hard to say what happened from a news story but backing down and getting out of there as soon as he saw the mob in the channel was probably the right answer. "Never take your vessel into a situation you can't get out of". I also understand he believed he had the right of free transit through that channel. I am not sure if thrusters would have worked in that situation either. Imagine what happens if he starts rolling them over with the outflow or sucks in a kayak. People are just stupid and probably do not understand what a thruster does. |
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On 8/13/2017 11:34 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 14:34:38 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 14:02:32 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 13:43:52 -0400, wrote: ...while navigating through a crowd. But he was caught up in a really tough situation. http://gcaptain.com/captain-has-lice...eid=1fb2ec477f --- He should have stopped and waited for the CG to clear the channel. === That would be the text book solution of course. I'm guessing that he thought the CG would open up a path for him, and by the time he realized that wasn't going to happen, he was in too deep. The wind coming from his port side was blowing him out of the channel and he had little or no steerageway for maneuvering. His only hope at that point would have required powerful bow and stern thrusters which he probably didn't have. USCG was really at fault for not keeping the channel clear in my opinion. Those boats run on a regular schedule and everyone should have known he was coming. I agree it is hard to say what happened from a news story but backing down and getting out of there as soon as he saw the mob in the channel was probably the right answer. "Never take your vessel into a situation you can't get out of". I also understand he believed he had the right of free transit through that channel. I am not sure if thrusters would have worked in that situation either. Imagine what happens if he starts rolling them over with the outflow or sucks in a kayak. People are just stupid and probably do not understand what a thruster does. My Navigator was certainly not anywhere near the size of this river cruise ship but I remember being in the ICW somewhere in either North Carolina or South Carolina where the ICW channel took a sharp, almost ninety degree turn to the left. As I approached, just before the turn, there where about a hundred or more small, 10 to 16 foot fishing boats clogging the channel. A guy in a Grand Banks was behind me. I slowed down and put the boat in neutral, looking for a path to take to get through all the boats. The guy in the Grand Banks took a chance and went left of the channel markers and ran aground on a sand bar. The people fishing in the little boats just looked at me. They weren't about to move, so I slowly started weaving my way through the pack of boats, judiciously going between forward, reverse and neutral, using the twins screws to steer through them. Some gave me the finger as I passed close to them. I don't know what the deal was. They were all sitting right in the middle of the marked channel. |
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On 8/14/17 9:05 AM, justan wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message: On 8/13/2017 11:34 PM, wrote: On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 14:34:38 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 14:02:32 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 13:43:52 -0400, wrote: ...while navigating through a crowd. But he was caught up in a really tough situation. http://gcaptain.com/captain-has-lice...eid=1fb2ec477f --- He should have stopped and waited for the CG to clear the channel. === That would be the text book solution of course. I'm guessing that he thought the CG would open up a path for him, and by the time he realized that wasn't going to happen, he was in too deep. The wind coming from his port side was blowing him out of the channel and he had little or no steerageway for maneuvering. His only hope at that point would have required powerful bow and stern thrusters which he probably didn't have. USCG was really at fault for not keeping the channel clear in my opinion. Those boats run on a regular schedule and everyone should have known he was coming. I agree it is hard to say what happened from a news story but backing down and getting out of there as soon as he saw the mob in the channel was probably the right answer. "Never take your vessel into a situation you can't get out of". I also understand he believed he had the right of free transit through that channel. I am not sure if thrusters would have worked in that situation either. Imagine what happens if he starts rolling them over with the outflow or sucks in a kayak. People are just stupid and probably do not understand what a thruster does. My Navigator was certainly not anywhere near the size of this river cruise ship but I remember being in the ICW somewhere in either North Carolina or South Carolina where the ICW channel took a sharp, almost ninety degree turn to the left. As I approached, just before the turn, there where about a hundred or more small, 10 to 16 foot fishing boats clogging the channel. A guy in a Grand Banks was behind me. I slowed down and put the boat in neutral, looking for a path to take to get through all the boats. The guy in the Grand Banks took a chance and went left of the channel markers and ran aground on a sand bar. The people fishing in the little boats just looked at me. They weren't about to move, so I slowly started weaving my way through the pack of boats, judiciously going between forward, reverse and neutral, using the twins screws to steer through them. Some gave me the finger as I passed close to them. I don't know what the deal was. They were all sitting right in the middle of the marked channel. Reminds you of the group of whatevers trying to annoy the crap out of anyone attempting to go about their business. You mean, like decent people annoying the neo-nazis? |
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On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 09:06:49 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: My Navigator was certainly not anywhere near the size of this river cruise ship but I remember being in the ICW somewhere in either North Carolina or South Carolina where the ICW channel took a sharp, almost ninety degree turn to the left. As I approached, just before the turn, there where about a hundred or more small, 10 to 16 foot fishing boats clogging the channel. A guy in a Grand Banks was behind me. I slowed down and put the boat in neutral, looking for a path to take to get through all the boats. The guy in the Grand Banks took a chance and went left of the channel markers and ran aground on a sand bar. The people fishing in the little boats just looked at me. They weren't about to move, so I slowly started weaving my way through the pack of boats, judiciously going between forward, reverse and neutral, using the twins screws to steer through them. Some gave me the finger as I passed close to them. I don't know what the deal was. They were all sitting right in the middle of the marked channel. Reminds you of the group of whatevers trying to annoy the crap out of anyone attempting to go about their business. You mean, like decent people annoying the neo-nazis? Do you fly the swastika on that Volvo powered yacht you keep telling us about? |
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On 8/14/2017 9:07 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/13/2017 11:34 PM, wrote: On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 14:34:38 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 14:02:32 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 13:43:52 -0400, wrote: ...while navigating through a crowd. But he was caught up in a really tough situation. http://gcaptain.com/captain-has-lice...eid=1fb2ec477f --- He should have stopped and waited for the CG to clear the channel. === That would be the text book solution of course. I'm guessing that he thought the CG would open up a path for him, and by the time he realized that wasn't going to happen, he was in too deep. The wind coming from his port side was blowing him out of the channel and he had little or no steerageway for maneuvering. His only hope at that point would have required powerful bow and stern thrusters which he probably didn't have. USCG was really at fault for not keeping the channel clear in my opinion. Those boats run on a regular schedule and everyone should have known he was coming. I agree it is hard to say what happened from a news story but backing down and getting out of there as soon as he saw the mob in the channel was probably the right answer. "Never take your vessel into a situation you can't get out of". I also understand he believed he had the right of free transit through that channel. I am not sure if thrusters would have worked in that situation either. Imagine what happens if he starts rolling them over with the outflow or sucks in a kayak. People are just stupid and probably do not understand what a thruster does. My Navigator was certainly not anywhere near the size of this river cruise ship but I remember being in the ICW somewhere in either North Carolina or South Carolina where the ICW channel took a sharp, almost ninety degree turn to the left. As I approached, just before the turn, there where about a hundred or more small, 10 to 16 foot fishing boats clogging the channel. A guy in a Grand Banks was behind me. I slowed down and put the boat in neutral, looking for a path to take to get through all the boats. The guy in the Grand Banks took a chance and went left of the channel markers and ran aground on a sand bar. The people fishing in the little boats just looked at me. They weren't about to move, so I slowly started weaving my way through the pack of boats, judiciously going between forward, reverse and neutral, using the twins screws to steer through them. Some gave me the finger as I passed close to them. I don't know what the deal was. They were all sitting right in the middle of the marked channel. Anarchists, no doubt, not willing to roll over for the plutocratic yachtsmen. -- Posted with my iPad Pro And the bald one enlightens us to his negative thinking yet again. He's nothing but a troll. |
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On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 13:32:14 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 8/14/17 1:26 PM, wrote: On 14 Aug 2017 15:45:49 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote: wrote: On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 09:06:49 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: My Navigator was certainly not anywhere near the size of this river cruise ship but I remember being in the ICW somewhere in either North Carolina or South Carolina where the ICW channel took a sharp, almost ninety degree turn to the left. As I approached, just before the turn, there where about a hundred or more small, 10 to 16 foot fishing boats clogging the channel. A guy in a Grand Banks was behind me. I slowed down and put the boat in neutral, looking for a path to take to get through all the boats. The guy in the Grand Banks took a chance and went left of the channel markers and ran aground on a sand bar. The people fishing in the little boats just looked at me. They weren't about to move, so I slowly started weaving my way through the pack of boats, judiciously going between forward, reverse and neutral, using the twins screws to steer through them. Some gave me the finger as I passed close to them. I don't know what the deal was. They were all sitting right in the middle of the marked channel. Reminds you of the group of whatevers trying to annoy the crap out of anyone attempting to go about their business. You mean, like decent people annoying the neo-nazis? Do you fly the swastika on that Volvo powered yacht you keep telling us about? Why would I do that? You seemed to be implying Richard was a neo nazi because he wanted to take his boat through a crowd of smaller boats. Isn't your boat the biggest and bestest of all? I didn't state or imply any such thing. My reference was to neo-nazis, not to luddite, and to the attempts of decent people to counter-demonstrate against them in Charlottesville. Try reading without that chip on your shoulder. Try not inserting nazis into every thread you post into. We were talking about a boat navigating through a channel and you made the leap to nazis from that, implying Richard must be one just because he wanted to get through a raft up of assholes. |
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