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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/21/17 12:49 PM, Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/20/17 11:47 PM, wrote: On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 18:31:50 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/20/17 2:59 PM, wrote: Yeah, I was a people person back then. You were a back room machine person. I am sure I met more people in my average day than you did, fetching coffee for the real news writers. I am sure if we could ask Truman who he had lunch with that day, your name would not come up. He might remember there was a "gofer" there but I doubt he would remember much more. Did you read him something someone else wrote, like you do here? Heheheh. What a little mind you have. You certainly seem to keep your intelligence under a box. That you think I was a "gofer" at The Star is hilarious. I was a full-fledged reporter from my first day at the paper, and after my short indoctrination to learn the paper's style book, I spent my time there as a street reporter, general assignment reporter, and feature story writer. My last year there, after my reportorial assignment work was done for the evening, I moved over to the copy desk, where I edited and marked up copy for typesetting, and in my last six months, before I was recruited by the Associated Press, I was acting World News Editor because the actual World News Editor had taken a year's leave and suggested to the managing editor of the paper that I fill in in his absence. I was an AP Newsman and then an AP Chief of Bureau. I met interesting people throughout my news career and, of course, afterwards. I don't bother to do much enterprise writing here. It's a waste of effort, what with the plethora of no-nothings and what-about-itis posters like you. They must have had low standards to hire an untrained person as a full reporter. Where did you get the idea I was "untrained" as a reporter? I needed to learn the paper's style book, which had a number of Star peculiarities, such as never referring to a car as anything but a "motor car," and at least 100 more of those kinds of descriptors. I'd been a "stringer" for the paper for almost a year, and was recommended for the summer job by a journalism professor who was pretty well connected at the paper, even though I had only taken a couple of courses in the j-school because my majors were in the college of liberal arts. As soon as I got to the paper, I started writing under the tutelage of the assistant night editor, who helped me get started on the right foot. By the end of that summer, I was offered a regular full-time job tailored to my remaining college class schedule. I worked five nights a week, from 4:30 pm to 12:30 am, with Wednesday and Saturday off, on the morning Star which, for convenience sake, was called the Kansas City Times. Funny thing was, the circulation of the Times back then was greater than that of the Star. Whatever the standards were, I'm sure they were higher than whatever standards you faced for your first professional job. Every summer, the paper got hundreds of applicants for the two summer jobs. I got one of them. The other guy was hired by the PM paper...we shared a desk, typewriter, and, of course, spittoon. Here's a picture of The Star building... http://tinyurl.com/y73a322k The presses used to be on the building on the right, but they've been moved to another facility. You even admit you did not have a journalism degree. As to a style book, does not make a reporter. As to professional qualifications, mine were a lot higher than yours. |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/21/17 1:47 PM, wrote: On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 16:49:04 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: They must have had low standards to hire an untrained person as a full reporter. I guess they had the journalistic standards of an interstate rest stop bathroom wall, based on the writing we see here. I've stated this many times: I see no reason to waste any time or effort on the writing of posts for this pigpen. So, proof you are intellectually lazy. |
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On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 14:01:20 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: I guess they had the journalistic standards of an interstate rest stop bathroom wall, based on the writing we see here. I've stated this many times: I see no reason to waste any time or effort on the writing of posts for this pigpen. Sounds like a pretty lame excuse for the supposed word smith you profess to be. Real writers write. bull****ters bull ****. |
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On 8/21/17 9:28 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/21/17 12:49 PM, Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/20/17 11:47 PM, wrote: On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 18:31:50 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/20/17 2:59 PM, wrote: Yeah, I was a people person back then. You were a back room machine person. I am sure I met more people in my average day than you did, fetching coffee for the real news writers. I am sure if we could ask Truman who he had lunch with that day, your name would not come up. He might remember there was a "gofer" there but I doubt he would remember much more. Did you read him something someone else wrote, like you do here? Heheheh. What a little mind you have. You certainly seem to keep your intelligence under a box. That you think I was a "gofer" at The Star is hilarious. I was a full-fledged reporter from my first day at the paper, and after my short indoctrination to learn the paper's style book, I spent my time there as a street reporter, general assignment reporter, and feature story writer. My last year there, after my reportorial assignment work was done for the evening, I moved over to the copy desk, where I edited and marked up copy for typesetting, and in my last six months, before I was recruited by the Associated Press, I was acting World News Editor because the actual World News Editor had taken a year's leave and suggested to the managing editor of the paper that I fill in in his absence. I was an AP Newsman and then an AP Chief of Bureau. I met interesting people throughout my news career and, of course, afterwards. I don't bother to do much enterprise writing here. It's a waste of effort, what with the plethora of no-nothings and what-about-itis posters like you. They must have had low standards to hire an untrained person as a full reporter. Where did you get the idea I was "untrained" as a reporter? I needed to learn the paper's style book, which had a number of Star peculiarities, such as never referring to a car as anything but a "motor car," and at least 100 more of those kinds of descriptors. I'd been a "stringer" for the paper for almost a year, and was recommended for the summer job by a journalism professor who was pretty well connected at the paper, even though I had only taken a couple of courses in the j-school because my majors were in the college of liberal arts. As soon as I got to the paper, I started writing under the tutelage of the assistant night editor, who helped me get started on the right foot. By the end of that summer, I was offered a regular full-time job tailored to my remaining college class schedule. I worked five nights a week, from 4:30 pm to 12:30 am, with Wednesday and Saturday off, on the morning Star which, for convenience sake, was called the Kansas City Times. Funny thing was, the circulation of the Times back then was greater than that of the Star. Whatever the standards were, I'm sure they were higher than whatever standards you faced for your first professional job. Every summer, the paper got hundreds of applicants for the two summer jobs. I got one of them. The other guy was hired by the PM paper...we shared a desk, typewriter, and, of course, spittoon. Here's a picture of The Star building... http://tinyurl.com/y73a322k The presses used to be on the building on the right, but they've been moved to another facility. You even admit you did not have a journalism degree. As to a style book, does not make a reporter. As to professional qualifications, mine were a lot higher than yours. The ability to be nosy, to be able to research, and the ability to write are the usual requirements for a new reporter. A journalism degree is neither required nor necessary. The first day on my job at The Star, the day city editor told me to "forget anything you learned at J-school...we'll teach you our way." Fortunately, I had taken only a couple of courses at journalism school, one of which, typography, was of no use at the paper, but useful later in life, so there was little to forget. I took the J-school courses to be closer to my sweetie at the time, a delicious redhead who did graduate from j-school. What was that saying at the engineering school...oh, year... "Yesterday, I couldn't spell engineer, but today I are one." |
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On 8/21/17 9:28 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/21/17 1:47 PM, wrote: On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 16:49:04 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: They must have had low standards to hire an untrained person as a full reporter. I guess they had the journalistic standards of an interstate rest stop bathroom wall, based on the writing we see here. I've stated this many times: I see no reason to waste any time or effort on the writing of posts for this pigpen. So, proof you are intellectually lazy. No, Bilious, it isn't "proof" of anything like that. |
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On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 09:37:09 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 8/21/17 11:44 PM, wrote: On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 14:01:20 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: I guess they had the journalistic standards of an interstate rest stop bathroom wall, based on the writing we see here. I've stated this many times: I see no reason to waste any time or effort on the writing of posts for this pigpen. Sounds like a pretty lame excuse for the supposed word smith you profess to be. Real writers write. bull****ters bull ****. What it it *sounds like* to you is of no concern to me. As I have stated many times, I am not interested in your whataboutery or whataboutitis, nor in your direct and indirect support for extreme right-wingery, or the fact you apparently believe there are *nice* Nazis or KKK'ers. Sadly, you are the best of the right-wing bunch in here, when it comes to any sort of political or current events discussion. I just said the racists were better behaved in Charlottesville than the BLM/antifa people and that is easily seen, simply by what did not happen. Hundreds of containers of kerosene, lit and none landed in a car window or in a store front. In spite of a lot of talk about assault weapons, not a shot was fired. On the other hand I doubt a single club carried by antifa got home without blood on it. BTW now antifa and BLM are fighting with each other. These are just violent thugs and the real criminals here. I read an article by a Harvard political science professor yesterday that called out BLM/antifa as being the un american force here. As much as we can hate the messenger and even the message the nazis followed the rules, got a permit to march and were not violent until they were attacked by antifa for exercising their 1st amendment rights. The people of Boston did it right the other day. They came out and PEACEFULLY protested the nazis, drowning out their message without resorting to violence. As long as you defend BLM and antifa you are the brown shirt here. |
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On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 01:28:00 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/21/17 12:49 PM, Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/20/17 11:47 PM, wrote: On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 18:31:50 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 8/20/17 2:59 PM, wrote: Yeah, I was a people person back then. You were a back room machine person. I am sure I met more people in my average day than you did, fetching coffee for the real news writers. I am sure if we could ask Truman who he had lunch with that day, your name would not come up. He might remember there was a "gofer" there but I doubt he would remember much more. Did you read him something someone else wrote, like you do here? Heheheh. What a little mind you have. You certainly seem to keep your intelligence under a box. That you think I was a "gofer" at The Star is hilarious. I was a full-fledged reporter from my first day at the paper, and after my short indoctrination to learn the paper's style book, I spent my time there as a street reporter, general assignment reporter, and feature story writer. My last year there, after my reportorial assignment work was done for the evening, I moved over to the copy desk, where I edited and marked up copy for typesetting, and in my last six months, before I was recruited by the Associated Press, I was acting World News Editor because the actual World News Editor had taken a year's leave and suggested to the managing editor of the paper that I fill in in his absence. I was an AP Newsman and then an AP Chief of Bureau. I met interesting people throughout my news career and, of course, afterwards. I don't bother to do much enterprise writing here. It's a waste of effort, what with the plethora of no-nothings and what-about-itis posters like you. They must have had low standards to hire an untrained person as a full reporter. Where did you get the idea I was "untrained" as a reporter? I needed to learn the paper's style book, which had a number of Star peculiarities, such as never referring to a car as anything but a "motor car," and at least 100 more of those kinds of descriptors. I'd been a "stringer" for the paper for almost a year, and was recommended for the summer job by a journalism professor who was pretty well connected at the paper, even though I had only taken a couple of courses in the j-school because my majors were in the college of liberal arts. As soon as I got to the paper, I started writing under the tutelage of the assistant night editor, who helped me get started on the right foot. By the end of that summer, I was offered a regular full-time job tailored to my remaining college class schedule. I worked five nights a week, from 4:30 pm to 12:30 am, with Wednesday and Saturday off, on the morning Star which, for convenience sake, was called the Kansas City Times. Funny thing was, the circulation of the Times back then was greater than that of the Star. Whatever the standards were, I'm sure they were higher than whatever standards you faced for your first professional job. Every summer, the paper got hundreds of applicants for the two summer jobs. I got one of them. The other guy was hired by the PM paper...we shared a desk, typewriter, and, of course, spittoon. Here's a picture of The Star building... http://tinyurl.com/y73a322k The presses used to be on the building on the right, but they've been moved to another facility. You even admit you did not have a journalism degree. As to a style book, does not make a reporter. As to professional qualifications, mine were a lot higher than yours. If, in fact, Harry had had any of his 'works' published, as he claims, you can bet your ass he'd have copies of them. And if he had copies of them, you can bet your ass he'd have photographed them and shown them to us hundreds of times. He's a liar. Amen. |
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