After Deadly Collisions Navy will Broadcast Warship Locations in High
Traffic Areas

https://news.usni.org/2017/09/19/deadly-collisions-navy-will-broadcast-warship-locations-high-traffic-areas

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On 9/21/2017 1:10 PM, wrote:

After Deadly Collisions Navy will Broadcast Warship Locations in High
Traffic Areas

https://news.usni.org/2017/09/19/deadly-collisions-navy-will-broadcast-warship-locations-high-traffic-areas


Sounds like the Navy probably knew the tanker and freighter were there
but the tanker and freighter didn't know the Navy was there.

I am not sticking up for or making excuses for the Navy ships but with
all the modern navigation equipment, much of which is automated, it is
more likely the freighter and tanker were more reliant on these systems
than the Navy is. Something happened unexpectedly and possibly under
auto control. Modern commercial ships like tanker and freighter have a
minimal crew ... likely less than 20 people ... and there probably
weren't too many watch standers.

On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 14:16:44 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/21/2017 1:10 PM, wrote:

After Deadly Collisions Navy will Broadcast Warship Locations in High
Traffic Areas

https://news.usni.org/2017/09/19/deadly-collisions-navy-will-broadcast-warship-locations-high-traffic-areas


Sounds like the Navy probably knew the tanker and freighter were there
but the tanker and freighter didn't know the Navy was there.

I am not sticking up for or making excuses for the Navy ships but with
all the modern navigation equipment, much of which is automated, it is
more likely the freighter and tanker were more reliant on these systems
than the Navy is. Something happened unexpectedly and possibly under
auto control. Modern commercial ships like tanker and freighter have a
minimal crew ... likely less than 20 people ... and there probably
weren't too many watch standers.


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Commercial vessels have their share of colissions but the ones we've
observed are not shy about getting on the radio, making their
intentions clear, and negotiating a meeting/passing strategy. My
sense of things, perhaps incorrect, is that navy ships are more
focussed on mission plan and operational security.

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On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 14:16:44 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/21/2017 1:10 PM, wrote:

After Deadly Collisions Navy will Broadcast Warship Locations in High
Traffic Areas

https://news.usni.org/2017/09/19/deadly-collisions-navy-will-broadcast-warship-locations-high-traffic-areas


Sounds like the Navy probably knew the tanker and freighter were there
but the tanker and freighter didn't know the Navy was there.

I am not sticking up for or making excuses for the Navy ships but with
all the modern navigation equipment, much of which is automated, it is
more likely the freighter and tanker were more reliant on these systems
than the Navy is. Something happened unexpectedly and possibly under
auto control. Modern commercial ships like tanker and freighter have a
minimal crew ... likely less than 20 people ... and there probably
weren't too many watch standers.


===

Commercial vessels have their share of colissions but the ones we've
observed are not shy about getting on the radio, making their
intentions clear, and negotiating a meeting/passing strategy. My
sense of things, perhaps incorrect, is that navy ships are more
focussed on mission plan and operational security.

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I had a fouled prop and a small tanker heading for me in San Francisco Bay
years ago. He was empty and cutting a corner out of the ship channel. I
was maybe a 100 yards from the channel. Got on the radio and he turned.
Still scary, as he passed at about 30'. So they at least listen to the
radio.

Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 14:16:44 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/21/2017 1:10 PM, wrote:

After Deadly Collisions Navy will Broadcast Warship Locations in High
Traffic Areas

https://news.usni.org/2017/09/19/deadly-collisions-navy-will-broadcast-warship-locations-high-traffic-areas

Sounds like the Navy probably knew the tanker and freighter were there
but the tanker and freighter didn't know the Navy was there.

I am not sticking up for or making excuses for the Navy ships but with
all the modern navigation equipment, much of which is automated, it is
more likely the freighter and tanker were more reliant on these systems
than the Navy is. Something happened unexpectedly and possibly under
auto control. Modern commercial ships like tanker and freighter have a
minimal crew ... likely less than 20 people ... and there probably
weren't too many watch standers.

===

Commercial vessels have their share of colissions but the ones we've
observed are not shy about getting on the radio, making their
intentions clear, and negotiating a meeting/passing strategy. My
sense of things, perhaps incorrect, is that navy ships are more
focussed on mission plan and operational security.

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I had a fouled prop and a small tanker heading for me in San Francisco Bay
years ago. He was empty and cutting a corner out of the ship channel. I
was maybe a 100 yards from the channel. Got on the radio and he turned.
Still scary, as he passed at about 30'. So they at least listen to the
radio.


Do they all speak English like airline pilots?

Alex wrote:
Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 14:16:44 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/21/2017 1:10 PM, wrote:

After Deadly Collisions Navy will Broadcast Warship Locations in High
Traffic Areas

https://news.usni.org/2017/09/19/deadly-collisions-navy-will-broadcast-warship-locations-high-traffic-areas

Sounds like the Navy probably knew the tanker and freighter were there
but the tanker and freighter didn't know the Navy was there.

I am not sticking up for or making excuses for the Navy ships but with
all the modern navigation equipment, much of which is automated, it is
more likely the freighter and tanker were more reliant on these systems
than the Navy is. Something happened unexpectedly and possibly under
auto control. Modern commercial ships like tanker and freighter have a
minimal crew ... likely less than 20 people ... and there probably
weren't too many watch standers.

===

Commercial vessels have their share of colissions but the ones we've
observed are not shy about getting on the radio, making their
intentions clear, and negotiating a meeting/passing strategy. My
sense of things, perhaps incorrect, is that navy ships are more
focussed on mission plan and operational security.

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I had a fouled prop and a small tanker heading for me in San Francisco Bay
years ago. He was empty and cutting a corner out of the ship channel. I
was maybe a 100 yards from the channel. Got on the radio and he turned.
Still scary, as he passed at about 30'. So they at least listen to the
radio.


Do they all speak English like airline pilots?



Somewhat. Most have a bay pilot inside the bay.