On 11/20/2017 1:35 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 11/20/17 12:49 PM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 17:28:12 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



Met older daughter and family for a weekend in Vegas. Wife gave son in
law and me an Excavator experience at digthisvegas.com. Fun weekend.
Expensive stay though. Even excluding any gambling. Stayed at Mandalay
Bay. Specials on room, but no reasonable dining. Even in room coffee
was $5 a cup. Got a lesson in a Cat 315C excavator. Dug a big hole,
moved 2500# tires and picked up a basketball and dropped in a tire. Fun
trip. I have a great wife. Great gifts. No boating.


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Cool. I'd like to try that sometime.

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He has a couple franchises elsewhere I think.


Yeah. I've driven one of those relatively tiny backhoes you see being
towed behind a pickup truck, and I managed not to kill anyone or destroy
the equipment. Love to try a full-sized ecavator.


Full size is lots different than a Bobcat sided backhoe. For one, the cab
will rotate 360degrees. So no moving the tracks when digging. And do not
have to turn around to go backwards while facing forward. Just rotate the
cab and pull back on the track control instead of pushing forward.



When I was doing the pool trenches with the Deere backhoe and had to
move forward, I learned to just put the backhoe bucket on the ground in
the middle of the trench and lift the back end of the tractor off the
ground, pushing it forward at the same time by curling the bucket
outward. Didn't even have to lift the stabilizers.

On 11/20/17 2:18 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/20/2017 1:26 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 11/20/17 12:49 PM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 17:28:12 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



Met older daughter and family for a weekend in Vegas.Â*Â* Wife gave
son in
law and me an Excavator experience at digthisvegas.com. Fun weekend.
Expensive stay though.Â*Â* Even excluding any gambling.Â*Â* Stayed at
Mandalay
Bay.Â*Â* Specials on room, but no reasonable dining.Â*Â* Even in room
coffee
was $5 a cup.Â* Got a lesson in a Cat 315C excavator.Â*Â* Dug a big hole,
moved 2500# tires and picked up a basketball and dropped in a tire.
Fun
trip.Â*Â* I have a great wife.Â*Â* Great gifts.Â* No boating.


===

Cool.Â* I'd like to try that sometime.

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He has a couple franchises elsewhere I think.


Yeah. I've driven one of those relatively tiny backhoes you see being
towed behind a pickup truck, and I managed not to kill anyone or
destroy the equipment. Love to try a full-sized ecavator.


I had the backhoe attachment for the John Deere tractor I had.Â* Not big
(12 inch wide bucket) and not super powerful but it did a lot of work
over the years.Â* I dug all the electrical and plumbing trenches for the
pool when we had it installed.Â* The contractor had some kind of machine
but had a hard time because of all the rocks and boulders.Â* The JD
handled them well, although I overloaded the hydraulics many times.
Trenches all had to be four feet deep and collectively there were about
150 -200 feet of them.



Luddite the Trencherman...sounds like a really really bad action hero
movie.

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 11/20/17 1:35 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 11/20/17 12:49 PM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 17:28:12 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



Met older daughter and family for a weekend in Vegas. Wife gave son in
law and me an Excavator experience at digthisvegas.com. Fun weekend.
Expensive stay though. Even excluding any gambling. Stayed at Mandalay
Bay. Specials on room, but no reasonable dining. Even in room coffee
was $5 a cup. Got a lesson in a Cat 315C excavator. Dug a big hole,
moved 2500# tires and picked up a basketball and dropped in a tire. Fun
trip. I have a great wife. Great gifts. No boating.


===

Cool. I'd like to try that sometime.

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He has a couple franchises elsewhere I think.


Yeah. I've driven one of those relatively tiny backhoes you see being
towed behind a pickup truck, and I managed not to kill anyone or destroy
the equipment. Love to try a full-sized ecavator.


Full size is lots different than a Bobcat sided backhoe. For one, the cab
will rotate 360degrees. So no moving the tracks when digging. And do not
have to turn around to go backwards while facing forward. Just rotate the
cab and pull back on the track control instead of pushing forward.


Uh-oh...I definitely would kill someone or destroy the equipment!



Instructor there.

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 11/20/17 12:49 PM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 17:28:12 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



Met older daughter and family for a weekend in Vegas. Wife gave
son in
law and me an Excavator experience at digthisvegas.com. Fun weekend.
Expensive stay though. Even excluding any gambling. Stayed at
Mandalay
Bay. Specials on room, but no reasonable dining. Even in room
coffee
was $5 a cup. Got a lesson in a Cat 315C excavator. Dug a big hole,
moved 2500# tires and picked up a basketball and dropped in a
tire. Fun
trip. I have a great wife. Great gifts. No boating.


===

Cool. I'd like to try that sometime.

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He has a couple franchises elsewhere I think.


Yeah. I've driven one of those relatively tiny backhoes you see being
towed behind a pickup truck, and I managed not to kill anyone or
destroy the equipment. Love to try a full-sized ecavator.

Too bad you don't know anyone in the business.

On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 12:41:28 -0500,
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 17:28:12 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



Met older daughter and family for a weekend in Vegas. Wife gave son in
law and me an Excavator experience at digthisvegas.com. Fun weekend.
Expensive stay though. Even excluding any gambling. Stayed at Mandalay
Bay. Specials on room, but no reasonable dining. Even in room coffee
was $5 a cup. Got a lesson in a Cat 315C excavator. Dug a big hole,
moved 2500# tires and picked up a basketball and dropped in a tire. Fun
trip. I have a great wife. Great gifts. No boating.


===

Cool. I'd like to try that sometime.

Call Sunbelt, they will rent you an excavator for far less than a
weekend in Vegas. Do you have any flower beds you need turned in the
yard? ;-)

I may be getting a "long stick" Gradall here as soon as I can work out
the details and arrange the operator. You can come over and play with
that.

On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 13:26:48 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/20/17 12:49 PM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 17:28:12 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



Met older daughter and family for a weekend in Vegas. Wife gave son in
law and me an Excavator experience at digthisvegas.com. Fun weekend.
Expensive stay though. Even excluding any gambling. Stayed at Mandalay
Bay. Specials on room, but no reasonable dining. Even in room coffee
was $5 a cup. Got a lesson in a Cat 315C excavator. Dug a big hole,
moved 2500# tires and picked up a basketball and dropped in a tire. Fun
trip. I have a great wife. Great gifts. No boating.


===

Cool. I'd like to try that sometime.

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He has a couple franchises elsewhere I think.


Yeah. I've driven one of those relatively tiny backhoes you see being
towed behind a pickup truck, and I managed not to kill anyone or destroy
the equipment. Love to try a full-sized ecavator.

I have rented a Bobcat a few times. They are fun

On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 18:35:01 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 11/20/17 12:49 PM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 17:28:12 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



Met older daughter and family for a weekend in Vegas. Wife gave son in
law and me an Excavator experience at digthisvegas.com. Fun weekend.
Expensive stay though. Even excluding any gambling. Stayed at Mandalay
Bay. Specials on room, but no reasonable dining. Even in room coffee
was $5 a cup. Got a lesson in a Cat 315C excavator. Dug a big hole,
moved 2500# tires and picked up a basketball and dropped in a tire. Fun
trip. I have a great wife. Great gifts. No boating.


===

Cool. I'd like to try that sometime.

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He has a couple franchises elsewhere I think.


Yeah. I've driven one of those relatively tiny backhoes you see being
towed behind a pickup truck, and I managed not to kill anyone or destroy
the equipment. Love to try a full-sized ecavator.


Full size is lots different than a Bobcat sided backhoe. For one, the cab
will rotate 360degrees. So no moving the tracks when digging. And do not
have to turn around to go backwards while facing forward. Just rotate the
cab and pull back on the track control instead of pushing forward.

That is how excavators work, even the little mini Kabotas. Loaders
like a bobcat are usually skid steer until you get real big. Then they
are articulated.
A backhoe is like you are talking about but that is actually a loader
with a "back hoe" added on it. The seat is reversible.
My niece's hubby was an operating engineer, as was his whole family
and most of the Harley guys I knew. They were sticklers for
nomenclature. I was also chastised for calling a concrete mixer a
"cement truck" ;-)

On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 13:48:47 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 17:28:12 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:



Met older daughter and family for a weekend in Vegas. Wife gave son in
law and me an Excavator experience at digthisvegas.com. Fun weekend.
Expensive stay though. Even excluding any gambling. Stayed at Mandalay
Bay. Specials on room, but no reasonable dining. Even in room coffee
was $5 a cup. Got a lesson in a Cat 315C excavator. Dug a big hole,
moved 2500# tires and picked up a basketball and dropped in a tire. Fun
trip. I have a great wife. Great gifts. No boating.

Sounds like you had a blast. Funny that back in the mid-70's there were prime rib buffets to be had
for $5.99, and breakfasts in resort hotels for 99 cents. That was for bacon, two eggs, and toast. I
could get well filled for $3!

That was before Vegas became "family friendly" and they catered to
hard core gamblers. If you were spending much time at the tables, that
buffet was comped anyway.
My sister was an AC person (Sands Platinum card) and they never paid
for anything.

On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 14:18:00 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


I had the backhoe attachment for the John Deere tractor I had. Not big
(12 inch wide bucket) and not super powerful but it did a lot of work
over the years. I dug all the electrical and plumbing trenches for the
pool when we had it installed. The contractor had some kind of machine
but had a hard time because of all the rocks and boulders. The JD
handled them well, although I overloaded the hydraulics many times.
Trenches all had to be four feet deep and collectively there were about
150 -200 feet of them.


Cool. I always wished I had a decent reason to buy a backhoe. I played
with the one my nieces hubby borrowed to dig out my sister's abandoned
septic tank when they built their pool. If you only had one machine
that is probably the one to have but they are really not that popular
here. One of the guys I talked to said the arrangement of the hoses to
the backhoe arm on the traditional one is susceptible to too much wear
from the sand. In Maryland they were everywhere.
In the 1&2 family biz here an tracked Bobcat is king. We are not
digging deep foundations and you can do more with the Bobcat.
When my wife was building, there was always a Bobcat in the
neighborhood and MartÃ*n the operator was her buddy.

On Monday, November 20, 2017 at 8:41:07 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 13:26:48 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/20/17 12:49 PM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 17:28:12 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



Met older daughter and family for a weekend in Vegas. Wife gave son in
law and me an Excavator experience at digthisvegas.com. Fun weekend.
Expensive stay though. Even excluding any gambling. Stayed at Mandalay
Bay. Specials on room, but no reasonable dining. Even in room coffee
was $5 a cup. Got a lesson in a Cat 315C excavator. Dug a big hole,
moved 2500# tires and picked up a basketball and dropped in a tire. Fun
trip. I have a great wife. Great gifts. No boating.


===

Cool. I'd like to try that sometime.

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He has a couple franchises elsewhere I think.


Yeah. I've driven one of those relatively tiny backhoes you see being
towed behind a pickup truck, and I managed not to kill anyone or destroy
the equipment. Love to try a full-sized ecavator.

I have rented a Bobcat a few times. They are fun

When I built the circular drive, my neighbor across the street left me his bobcat for a week while he was away on vacation. It was fun!