On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 13:00:51 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 10:59:03 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 20:53:11 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 13:48:47 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 17:28:12 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:



Met older daughter and family for a weekend in Vegas. Wife gave son in
law and me an Excavator experience at digthisvegas.com. Fun weekend.
Expensive stay though. Even excluding any gambling. Stayed at Mandalay
Bay. Specials on room, but no reasonable dining. Even in room coffee
was $5 a cup. Got a lesson in a Cat 315C excavator. Dug a big hole,
moved 2500# tires and picked up a basketball and dropped in a tire. Fun
trip. I have a great wife. Great gifts. No boating.

Sounds like you had a blast. Funny that back in the mid-70's there were prime rib buffets to be had
for $5.99, and breakfasts in resort hotels for 99 cents. That was for bacon, two eggs, and toast. I
could get well filled for $3!

That was before Vegas became "family friendly" and they catered to
hard core gamblers. If you were spending much time at the tables, that
buffet was comped anyway.
My sister was an AC person (Sands Platinum card) and they never paid
for anything.

I shot my $50 weekend limit and that was it. They made very little money from me.

What's 'AC' mean?

Atlantic City.

I am a rationed gambler these days too. I used to be more serious
about it but these days I avoid the casino or just take $5 or
something. Either I get lucky or I lose my $5.
Sometimes I will just put it on one bet and put it in my pocket if I
win. I figured out years ago, the more you play, the more you lose.
The only people who show a profit on their 1099 G are the ones who
make a big score early and get out. I know my sister used to always
talk about her "winnings" but over all of those years, my brother in
law said they never had to pay taxes on that money.
That is one good thing about gambling "on the card" tho. You get a
statement, just like at a bank. I am surprised they do it. They
rationalized going to AC was still cheaper than a cruise and cruise
ships don't comp anything for gamblers..

The biggest problem I have on a Disney cruise is overeating! Walking Deck 4 gets boring after a few
rounds.

On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 12:51:08 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 10:56:17 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 18:51:13 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote:

On Monday, November 20, 2017 at 8:41:07 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 13:26:48 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/20/17 12:49 PM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 17:28:12 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



Met older daughter and family for a weekend in Vegas. Wife gave son in
law and me an Excavator experience at digthisvegas.com. Fun weekend.
Expensive stay though. Even excluding any gambling. Stayed at Mandalay
Bay. Specials on room, but no reasonable dining. Even in room coffee
was $5 a cup. Got a lesson in a Cat 315C excavator. Dug a big hole,
moved 2500# tires and picked up a basketball and dropped in a tire. Fun
trip. I have a great wife. Great gifts. No boating.


===

Cool. I'd like to try that sometime.

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He has a couple franchises elsewhere I think.


Yeah. I've driven one of those relatively tiny backhoes you see being
towed behind a pickup truck, and I managed not to kill anyone or destroy
the equipment. Love to try a full-sized ecavator.

I have rented a Bobcat a few times. They are fun

When I built the circular drive, my neighbor across the street left me his bobcat for a week while he was away on vacation. It was fun!

Got a call from my wife's church. "Hey John, you grew up on a farm, can you operate a Bobcat?"

"Sure." I said.

So I showed up. The rental agency guy arrived and I told him I'd be operating it. He asked if I'd
ever operated one. Nope, never had. He said it'd be a snap to learn, and it was. Had a blast all day
with that thing.

I want one.

That was my experience when I have rented machines. The driver gave me
a 2 minute "lesson" and drove away.
It is not hard to make everything move but it takes a while to do it
instinctively. I was actually getting pretty good with the New Holland
I rented in Maryland when I was building that addition but I had it
the whole week. I moved a lot of dirt around.
I only had the Bobcat 3 days here, doing my rip rap. (a weekend).
If you get one at a slow time for them you may end up having it more
days than you rented for because they don't come get it until it is
rented again. We had that with the man lift I got for the first swing
at the fichus tree and had it sitting here for 3 days on a one day
rental. I really was having a hard time finding a use for it tho. I
did use it to replace a bad screen panel in the middle of the roof of
my 15' high cage.
I used my climbing harness, hanging from the basket and Judy "Peter
Panned" me out over the cage from the ground. It worked surprisingly
well.

Sounds like a blast. The bucket on the Bobcat wouldn't have gotten me high enough for any Peter
Panning.

On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 10:14:30 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

John H
- show quoted text -
Got a call from my wife's church. "Hey John, you grew up on a farm, can you operate a Bobcat?"

"Sure." I said.

So I showed up. The rental agency guy arrived and I told him I'd be operating it. He asked if I'd
ever operated one. Nope, never had. He said it'd be a snap to learn, and it was. Had a blast all day
with that thing.

I want one.
....

About 5 years ago I sold my D7 Cat crawler. It had some minor flaws but was still workable. And I got fair money out of it. I kinda wished I’d kept it, there’s some projects in the farm I could use it for.
John you coulda come out and I’d have put you to work. You’d have had a real blast!

Would have loved it. I worked on a farm once that had a D7. Used it for tilling with a disc harrow
that seemed a mile wide.

On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 13:04:15 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 10:56:17 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 18:51:13 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote:

On Monday, November 20, 2017 at 8:41:07 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 13:26:48 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/20/17 12:49 PM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 17:28:12 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



Met older daughter and family for a weekend in Vegas. Wife gave son in
law and me an Excavator experience at digthisvegas.com. Fun weekend.
Expensive stay though. Even excluding any gambling. Stayed at Mandalay
Bay. Specials on room, but no reasonable dining. Even in room coffee
was $5 a cup. Got a lesson in a Cat 315C excavator. Dug a big hole,
moved 2500# tires and picked up a basketball and dropped in a tire. Fun
trip. I have a great wife. Great gifts. No boating.


===

Cool. I'd like to try that sometime.

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He has a couple franchises elsewhere I think.


Yeah. I've driven one of those relatively tiny backhoes you see being
towed behind a pickup truck, and I managed not to kill anyone or destroy
the equipment. Love to try a full-sized ecavator.

I have rented a Bobcat a few times. They are fun

When I built the circular drive, my neighbor across the street left me
his bobcat for a week while he was away on vacation. It was fun!

Got a call from my wife's church. "Hey John, you grew up on a farm, can
you operate a Bobcat?"

"Sure." I said.

So I showed up. The rental agency guy arrived and I told him I'd be
operating it. He asked if I'd
ever operated one. Nope, never had. He said it'd be a snap to learn, and
it was. Had a blast all day
with that thing.

I want one.

That was my experience when I have rented machines. The driver gave me
a 2 minute "lesson" and drove away.
It is not hard to make everything move but it takes a while to do it
instinctively. I was actually getting pretty good with the New Holland
I rented in Maryland when I was building that addition but I had it
the whole week. I moved a lot of dirt around.
I only had the Bobcat 3 days here, doing my rip rap. (a weekend).
If you get one at a slow time for them you may end up having it more
days than you rented for because they don't come get it until it is
rented again. We had that with the man lift I got for the first swing
at the fichus tree and had it sitting here for 3 days on a one day
rental. I really was having a hard time finding a use for it tho. I
did use it to replace a bad screen panel in the middle of the roof of
my 15' high cage.
I used my climbing harness, hanging from the basket and Judy "Peter
Panned" me out over the cage from the ground. It worked surprisingly
well.


Right after she checked to see if your life insurance premium was paid.

I actually felt totally safe. In a good climbing harness, you are not
leaving the machine and the machine was rated at over 3 times what I
weigh. It was a whole lot safer than the way I am usually rolling
topside screen. (on one of those dreaded ladders)

On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 15:42:21 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 12:51:08 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 10:56:17 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 18:51:13 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote:

On Monday, November 20, 2017 at 8:41:07 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 13:26:48 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/20/17 12:49 PM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 17:28:12 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



Met older daughter and family for a weekend in Vegas. Wife gave son in
law and me an Excavator experience at digthisvegas.com. Fun weekend.
Expensive stay though. Even excluding any gambling. Stayed at Mandalay
Bay. Specials on room, but no reasonable dining. Even in room coffee
was $5 a cup. Got a lesson in a Cat 315C excavator. Dug a big hole,
moved 2500# tires and picked up a basketball and dropped in a tire. Fun
trip. I have a great wife. Great gifts. No boating.


===

Cool. I'd like to try that sometime.

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He has a couple franchises elsewhere I think.


Yeah. I've driven one of those relatively tiny backhoes you see being
towed behind a pickup truck, and I managed not to kill anyone or destroy
the equipment. Love to try a full-sized ecavator.

I have rented a Bobcat a few times. They are fun

When I built the circular drive, my neighbor across the street left me his bobcat for a week while he was away on vacation. It was fun!

Got a call from my wife's church. "Hey John, you grew up on a farm, can you operate a Bobcat?"

"Sure." I said.

So I showed up. The rental agency guy arrived and I told him I'd be operating it. He asked if I'd
ever operated one. Nope, never had. He said it'd be a snap to learn, and it was. Had a blast all day
with that thing.

I want one.

That was my experience when I have rented machines. The driver gave me
a 2 minute "lesson" and drove away.
It is not hard to make everything move but it takes a while to do it
instinctively. I was actually getting pretty good with the New Holland
I rented in Maryland when I was building that addition but I had it
the whole week. I moved a lot of dirt around.
I only had the Bobcat 3 days here, doing my rip rap. (a weekend).
If you get one at a slow time for them you may end up having it more
days than you rented for because they don't come get it until it is
rented again. We had that with the man lift I got for the first swing
at the fichus tree and had it sitting here for 3 days on a one day
rental. I really was having a hard time finding a use for it tho. I
did use it to replace a bad screen panel in the middle of the roof of
my 15' high cage.
I used my climbing harness, hanging from the basket and Judy "Peter
Panned" me out over the cage from the ground. It worked surprisingly
well.

Sounds like a blast. The bucket on the Bobcat wouldn't have gotten me high enough for any Peter
Panning.

The man lift was really pretty cool. It was a 2 man, fully articulated
thing, self propelled with something like a 30 foot up, 14 foot out
boom. It really made taking that tree out in small chunks easy.
I had to make it small enough to go in a dumpster.

After Irma I took down the other half the good old Paul Bunyon way. I
notched it and dropped the whole thing up on FPL in one piece, then
cut it into chunks I could drag with the truck and hauled it out
front.

On Tuesday, 21 November 2017 17:58:34 UTC-4, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 15:42:21 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 12:51:08 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 10:56:17 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 18:51:13 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote:

On Monday, November 20, 2017 at 8:41:07 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 13:26:48 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/20/17 12:49 PM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 17:28:12 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



Met older daughter and family for a weekend in Vegas. Wife gave son in
law and me an Excavator experience at digthisvegas.com. Fun weekend.
Expensive stay though. Even excluding any gambling. Stayed at Mandalay
Bay. Specials on room, but no reasonable dining. Even in room coffee
was $5 a cup. Got a lesson in a Cat 315C excavator. Dug a big hole,
moved 2500# tires and picked up a basketball and dropped in a tire. Fun
trip. I have a great wife. Great gifts. No boating.


===

Cool. I'd like to try that sometime.

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He has a couple franchises elsewhere I think.


Yeah. I've driven one of those relatively tiny backhoes you see being
towed behind a pickup truck, and I managed not to kill anyone or destroy
the equipment. Love to try a full-sized ecavator.

I have rented a Bobcat a few times. They are fun

When I built the circular drive, my neighbor across the street left me his bobcat for a week while he was away on vacation. It was fun!

Got a call from my wife's church. "Hey John, you grew up on a farm, can you operate a Bobcat?"

"Sure." I said.

So I showed up. The rental agency guy arrived and I told him I'd be operating it. He asked if I'd
ever operated one. Nope, never had. He said it'd be a snap to learn, and it was. Had a blast all day
with that thing.

I want one.

That was my experience when I have rented machines. The driver gave me
a 2 minute "lesson" and drove away.
It is not hard to make everything move but it takes a while to do it
instinctively. I was actually getting pretty good with the New Holland
I rented in Maryland when I was building that addition but I had it
the whole week. I moved a lot of dirt around.
I only had the Bobcat 3 days here, doing my rip rap. (a weekend).
If you get one at a slow time for them you may end up having it more
days than you rented for because they don't come get it until it is
rented again. We had that with the man lift I got for the first swing
at the fichus tree and had it sitting here for 3 days on a one day
rental. I really was having a hard time finding a use for it tho. I
did use it to replace a bad screen panel in the middle of the roof of
my 15' high cage.
I used my climbing harness, hanging from the basket and Judy "Peter
Panned" me out over the cage from the ground. It worked surprisingly
well.

Sounds like a blast. The bucket on the Bobcat wouldn't have gotten me high enough for any Peter
Panning.

The man lift was really pretty cool. It was a 2 man, fully articulated
thing, self propelled with something like a 30 foot up, 14 foot out
boom. It really made taking that tree out in small chunks easy.
I had to make it small enough to go in a dumpster.

After Irma I took down the other half the good old Paul Bunyon way. I
notched it and dropped the whole thing up on FPL in one piece, then
cut it into chunks I could drag with the truck and hauled it out
front.

My brother-in-law has convinced me to rent a scissor type lift rather than the Genie boom type man lift to reach 26-28 feet up. He claims the basket is more stable ...less shaking.

On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 18:34:18 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 21 November 2017 17:58:34 UTC-4, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 15:42:21 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 12:51:08 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 10:56:17 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 18:51:13 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote:

On Monday, November 20, 2017 at 8:41:07 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 13:26:48 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/20/17 12:49 PM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 17:28:12 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



Met older daughter and family for a weekend in Vegas. Wife gave son in
law and me an Excavator experience at digthisvegas.com. Fun weekend.
Expensive stay though. Even excluding any gambling. Stayed at Mandalay
Bay. Specials on room, but no reasonable dining. Even in room coffee
was $5 a cup. Got a lesson in a Cat 315C excavator. Dug a big hole,
moved 2500# tires and picked up a basketball and dropped in a tire. Fun
trip. I have a great wife. Great gifts. No boating.


===

Cool. I'd like to try that sometime.

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He has a couple franchises elsewhere I think.


Yeah. I've driven one of those relatively tiny backhoes you see being
towed behind a pickup truck, and I managed not to kill anyone or destroy
the equipment. Love to try a full-sized ecavator.

I have rented a Bobcat a few times. They are fun

When I built the circular drive, my neighbor across the street left me his bobcat for a week while he was away on vacation. It was fun!

Got a call from my wife's church. "Hey John, you grew up on a farm, can you operate a Bobcat?"

"Sure." I said.

So I showed up. The rental agency guy arrived and I told him I'd be operating it. He asked if I'd
ever operated one. Nope, never had. He said it'd be a snap to learn, and it was. Had a blast all day
with that thing.

I want one.

That was my experience when I have rented machines. The driver gave me
a 2 minute "lesson" and drove away.
It is not hard to make everything move but it takes a while to do it
instinctively. I was actually getting pretty good with the New Holland
I rented in Maryland when I was building that addition but I had it
the whole week. I moved a lot of dirt around.
I only had the Bobcat 3 days here, doing my rip rap. (a weekend).
If you get one at a slow time for them you may end up having it more
days than you rented for because they don't come get it until it is
rented again. We had that with the man lift I got for the first swing
at the fichus tree and had it sitting here for 3 days on a one day
rental. I really was having a hard time finding a use for it tho. I
did use it to replace a bad screen panel in the middle of the roof of
my 15' high cage.
I used my climbing harness, hanging from the basket and Judy "Peter
Panned" me out over the cage from the ground. It worked surprisingly
well.

Sounds like a blast. The bucket on the Bobcat wouldn't have gotten me high enough for any Peter
Panning.

The man lift was really pretty cool. It was a 2 man, fully articulated
thing, self propelled with something like a 30 foot up, 14 foot out
boom. It really made taking that tree out in small chunks easy.
I had to make it small enough to go in a dumpster.

After Irma I took down the other half the good old Paul Bunyon way. I
notched it and dropped the whole thing up on FPL in one piece, then
cut it into chunks I could drag with the truck and hauled it out
front.

My brother-in-law has convinced me to rent a scissor type lift rather than the Genie boom type man lift to reach 26-28 feet up. He claims the basket is more stable ...less shaking.

Probably true but when I was dropping that tree I wanted to be above
the stuff I was cutting and not have it landing on the machine, The 14
foot reach allowed me to line up perpendicular to the limb I was
cutting and come at it from the top with the machine itself safely off
to the side. A scissor lift is straight up and down. There was no way
I could have used it on the screen cage either. The screen panels I
was replacing were over the pool.

True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 21 November 2017 17:58:34 UTC-4, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 15:42:21 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 12:51:08 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 10:56:17 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 18:51:13 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote:

On Monday, November 20, 2017 at 8:41:07 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 13:26:48 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/20/17 12:49 PM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 17:28:12 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



Met older daughter and family for a weekend in Vegas. Wife gave son in
law and me an Excavator experience at digthisvegas.com. Fun weekend.
Expensive stay though. Even excluding any gambling. Stayed at Mandalay
Bay. Specials on room, but no reasonable dining. Even in room coffee
was $5 a cup. Got a lesson in a Cat 315C excavator. Dug a big hole,
moved 2500# tires and picked up a basketball and dropped in a tire. Fun
trip. I have a great wife. Great gifts. No boating.


===

Cool. I'd like to try that sometime.

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He has a couple franchises elsewhere I think.


Yeah. I've driven one of those relatively tiny backhoes you see being
towed behind a pickup truck, and I managed not to kill anyone or destroy
the equipment. Love to try a full-sized ecavator.

I have rented a Bobcat a few times. They are fun

When I built the circular drive, my neighbor across the street left
me his bobcat for a week while he was away on vacation. It was fun!

Got a call from my wife's church. "Hey John, you grew up on a farm,
can you operate a Bobcat?"

"Sure." I said.

So I showed up. The rental agency guy arrived and I told him I'd be
operating it. He asked if I'd
ever operated one. Nope, never had. He said it'd be a snap to learn,
and it was. Had a blast all day
with that thing.

I want one.

That was my experience when I have rented machines. The driver gave me
a 2 minute "lesson" and drove away.
It is not hard to make everything move but it takes a while to do it
instinctively. I was actually getting pretty good with the New Holland
I rented in Maryland when I was building that addition but I had it
the whole week. I moved a lot of dirt around.
I only had the Bobcat 3 days here, doing my rip rap. (a weekend).
If you get one at a slow time for them you may end up having it more
days than you rented for because they don't come get it until it is
rented again. We had that with the man lift I got for the first swing
at the fichus tree and had it sitting here for 3 days on a one day
rental. I really was having a hard time finding a use for it tho. I
did use it to replace a bad screen panel in the middle of the roof of
my 15' high cage.
I used my climbing harness, hanging from the basket and Judy "Peter
Panned" me out over the cage from the ground. It worked surprisingly
well.

Sounds like a blast. The bucket on the Bobcat wouldn't have gotten me
high enough for any Peter
Panning.

The man lift was really pretty cool. It was a 2 man, fully articulated
thing, self propelled with something like a 30 foot up, 14 foot out
boom. It really made taking that tree out in small chunks easy.
I had to make it small enough to go in a dumpster.

After Irma I took down the other half the good old Paul Bunyon way. I
notched it and dropped the whole thing up on FPL in one piece, then
cut it into chunks I could drag with the truck and hauled it out
front.

My brother-in-law has convinced me to rent a scissor type lift rather
than the Genie boom type man lift to reach 26-28 feet up. He claims the
basket is more stable ...less shaking.


How close can you get the lift to the wall?

On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 04:43:19 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



The man lift was really pretty cool. It was a 2 man, fully articulated
thing, self propelled with something like a 30 foot up, 14 foot out
boom. It really made taking that tree out in small chunks easy.
I had to make it small enough to go in a dumpster.

After Irma I took down the other half the good old Paul Bunyon way. I
notched it and dropped the whole thing up on FPL in one piece, then
cut it into chunks I could drag with the truck and hauled it out
front.

My brother-in-law has convinced me to rent a scissor type lift rather
than the Genie boom type man lift to reach 26-28 feet up. He claims the
basket is more stable ...less shaking.


How close can you get the lift to the wall?

Pretty much right up next to it. The arm has 3 joints in it so you can
go straight up and then go out.

https://sws.sunbeltrentals.com/image...0318&width=180

wrote:
On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 04:43:19 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:



The man lift was really pretty cool. It was a 2 man, fully articulated
thing, self propelled with something like a 30 foot up, 14 foot out
boom. It really made taking that tree out in small chunks easy.
I had to make it small enough to go in a dumpster.

After Irma I took down the other half the good old Paul Bunyon way. I
notched it and dropped the whole thing up on FPL in one piece, then
cut it into chunks I could drag with the truck and hauled it out
front.

My brother-in-law has convinced me to rent a scissor type lift rather
than the Genie boom type man lift to reach 26-28 feet up. He claims the
basket is more stable ...less shaking.


How close can you get the lift to the wall?

Pretty much right up next to it. The arm has 3 joints in it so you can
go straight up and then go out.

https://sws.sunbeltrentals.com/image...0318&width=180



Referring to the scissor lift .