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On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 17:27:27 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 1/12/2018 5:08 PM, wrote: On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 16:22:17 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/12/18 3:20 PM, wrote: On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 11:39:33 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/12/18 10:10 AM, justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 1/11/18 10:28 PM, wrote: On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:35:57 -0500 (EST), justan wrote: Use an impact wrench, They spin right off. I'd be willing to bet that Harry doesn't have one. Probably not. I have 5, 2 electric and 3 air. I have a pneumatic impact wrench, two in fact, one of which I have owned for more than 40 years. Do ye hav a compressor? No, **** for brains, I bottle up the hot air you dump here and use it to power the impact wrench. Yes, I have a compressor. I've had one for 15 years. === So you went 25 years with an impact wrench that you could not use? --- When we closed up the boat store, I took all the small tools. Never had occasion to use that impact wrench, and I've only used the one that came with my compressor once. I don't change a lot of tires. ... or do much of anything else that we see. You should sell or donate those tools to someone who will use them. An impact wrench is fine for loosening and removing stubborn wheel lugs on a car/truck but is not recommended for putting the lugs back on unless you are really careful and have a means to set it's torque. Common problems are inadvertently cross threading the lug on the stud and over-torquing the lug that can result in a warped rotor. You can do it but set the impact to a fairly low torque setting, finish with a torque wrench observing the star pattern and always start the nuts by hand, giving they a turn or two to be sure you are good. I lube everything up pretty good before I even set the wheel up there. It makes things easier next time. These alloy wheels can pretty much corrosion weld themselves to the spindle if you don't. |
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#43
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True North wrote:
On Friday, 12 January 2018 12:39:36 UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/12/18 10:10 AM, justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 1/11/18 10:28 PM, wrote: On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:35:57 -0500 (EST), justan wrote: Use an impact wrench, They spin right off. I'd be willing to bet that Harry doesn't have one. Probably not. I have 5, 2 electric and 3 air. I have a pneumatic impact wrench, two in fact, one of which I have owned for more than 40 years. Do ye hav a compressor? No, **** for brains, I bottle up the hot air you dump here and use it to power the impact wrench. Yes, I have a compressor. I've had one for 15 years. ~~Snerk~~ Hee hee...you're killin' me, Harry! ;-) Good boy! Nice lemming! |
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#44
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On Friday, 12 January 2018 18:27:33 UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/12/2018 5:08 PM, wrote: On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 16:22:17 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/12/18 3:20 PM, wrote: On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 11:39:33 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/12/18 10:10 AM, justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 1/11/18 10:28 PM, wrote: On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:35:57 -0500 (EST), justan wrote: Use an impact wrench, They spin right off. I'd be willing to bet that Harry doesn't have one. Probably not. I have 5, 2 electric and 3 air. I have a pneumatic impact wrench, two in fact, one of which I have owned for more than 40 years. Do ye hav a compressor? No, **** for brains, I bottle up the hot air you dump here and use it to power the impact wrench. Yes, I have a compressor. I've had one for 15 years. === So you went 25 years with an impact wrench that you could not use? --- When we closed up the boat store, I took all the small tools. Never had occasion to use that impact wrench, and I've only used the one that came with my compressor once. I don't change a lot of tires. ... or do much of anything else that we see. You should sell or donate those tools to someone who will use them. An impact wrench is fine for loosening and removing stubborn wheel lugs on a car/truck but is not recommended for putting the lugs back on unless you are really careful and have a means to set it's torque. Common problems are inadvertently cross threading the lug on the stud and over-torquing the lug that can result in a warped rotor. Bingo! My son and I remove the previous season's tires to install the next season's tires twice a year. I bought a long 1/2 inch breaker bar to easily loosen the lug nuts.. then use a speed type socket wrench to start the lug nuts back on ...finishing with my torque wrench. Always goes smoothly..especially after I bought the proper deep socket for his Charger. I also have the proper deep metric socket for my Highlander but only used it once after buying new Michelins from Costco. Saved me taking the Highlander back to them after 140 kilometers for a re-tighten. |
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#45
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On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 17:57:23 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 1/12/2018 5:53 PM, John H wrote: On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 17:27:27 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/12/2018 5:08 PM, wrote: On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 16:22:17 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/12/18 3:20 PM, wrote: On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 11:39:33 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/12/18 10:10 AM, justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 1/11/18 10:28 PM, wrote: On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:35:57 -0500 (EST), justan wrote: Use an impact wrench, They spin right off. I'd be willing to bet that Harry doesn't have one. Probably not. I have 5, 2 electric and 3 air. I have a pneumatic impact wrench, two in fact, one of which I have owned for more than 40 years. Do ye hav a compressor? No, **** for brains, I bottle up the hot air you dump here and use it to power the impact wrench. Yes, I have a compressor. I've had one for 15 years. === So you went 25 years with an impact wrench that you could not use? --- When we closed up the boat store, I took all the small tools. Never had occasion to use that impact wrench, and I've only used the one that came with my compressor once. I don't change a lot of tires. ... or do much of anything else that we see. You should sell or donate those tools to someone who will use them. An impact wrench is fine for loosening and removing stubborn wheel lugs on a car/truck but is not recommended for putting the lugs back on unless you are really careful and have a means to set it's torque. Common problems are inadvertently cross threading the lug on the stud and over-torquing the lug that can result in a warped rotor. Whenever I have tire work done, on the truck or the trailer, I ask them to adjust the torque on the impact wrenches. It's not a problem, but the mechanics don't seem to think about it. More is better seems to be their belief. I had a set of tires put on by a knucklehead who didn't know how to use an impact wrench. That's when I learned that over-torquing the lugs can warp the rotor. They usually warp the rotor by not bring the lug nuts in the star pattern, going around the star several times before they are actually tight. I had that happen at a tire store and I thought I really had trouble but just loosening them up and torquing them the right way fixed it. |
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#46
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On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 18:33:27 -0500, John H
wrote: On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 17:57:23 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/12/2018 5:53 PM, John H wrote: On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 17:27:27 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/12/2018 5:08 PM, wrote: On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 16:22:17 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/12/18 3:20 PM, wrote: On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 11:39:33 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/12/18 10:10 AM, justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 1/11/18 10:28 PM, wrote: On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:35:57 -0500 (EST), justan wrote: Use an impact wrench, They spin right off. I'd be willing to bet that Harry doesn't have one. Probably not. I have 5, 2 electric and 3 air. I have a pneumatic impact wrench, two in fact, one of which I have owned for more than 40 years. Do ye hav a compressor? No, **** for brains, I bottle up the hot air you dump here and use it to power the impact wrench. Yes, I have a compressor. I've had one for 15 years. === So you went 25 years with an impact wrench that you could not use? --- When we closed up the boat store, I took all the small tools. Never had occasion to use that impact wrench, and I've only used the one that came with my compressor once. I don't change a lot of tires. ... or do much of anything else that we see. You should sell or donate those tools to someone who will use them. An impact wrench is fine for loosening and removing stubborn wheel lugs on a car/truck but is not recommended for putting the lugs back on unless you are really careful and have a means to set it's torque. Common problems are inadvertently cross threading the lug on the stud and over-torquing the lug that can result in a warped rotor. Whenever I have tire work done, on the truck or the trailer, I ask them to adjust the torque on the impact wrenches. It's not a problem, but the mechanics don't seem to think about it. More is better seems to be their belief. I had a set of tires put on by a knucklehead who didn't know how to use an impact wrench. That's when I learned that over-torquing the lugs can warp the rotor. And crack an aluminum wheel. Alloy wheels and disk brakes is what made this "torque" business become important. You could get away with a lot of stuff back in the old steel wheel days. If you don't get alloy wheels tight enough, they fall off ... BTDT and too tight is almost as bad even if they are tightened in sequence. |
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#47
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On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 19:49:34 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:
On Friday, 12 January 2018 18:27:33 UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/12/2018 5:08 PM, wrote: On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 16:22:17 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/12/18 3:20 PM, wrote: On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 11:39:33 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/12/18 10:10 AM, justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 1/11/18 10:28 PM, wrote: On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:35:57 -0500 (EST), justan wrote: Use an impact wrench, They spin right off. I'd be willing to bet that Harry doesn't have one. Probably not. I have 5, 2 electric and 3 air. I have a pneumatic impact wrench, two in fact, one of which I have owned for more than 40 years. Do ye hav a compressor? No, **** for brains, I bottle up the hot air you dump here and use it to power the impact wrench. Yes, I have a compressor. I've had one for 15 years. === So you went 25 years with an impact wrench that you could not use? --- When we closed up the boat store, I took all the small tools. Never had occasion to use that impact wrench, and I've only used the one that came with my compressor once. I don't change a lot of tires. ... or do much of anything else that we see. You should sell or donate those tools to someone who will use them. An impact wrench is fine for loosening and removing stubborn wheel lugs on a car/truck but is not recommended for putting the lugs back on unless you are really careful and have a means to set it's torque. Common problems are inadvertently cross threading the lug on the stud and over-torquing the lug that can result in a warped rotor. Bingo! My son and I remove the previous season's tires to install the next season's tires twice a year. I bought a long 1/2 inch breaker bar to easily loosen the lug nuts.. then use a speed type socket wrench to start the lug nuts back on ...finishing with my torque wrench. Always goes smoothly..especially after I bought the proper deep socket for his Charger. I also have the proper deep metric socket for my Highlander but only used it once after buying new Michelins from Costco. Saved me taking the Highlander back to them after 140 kilometers for a re-tighten. Starting the nuts by hand is the safest way to do it. |
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