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On 2/15/2018 9:50 AM, Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/15/2018 9:13 AM, Its Me wrote:
On Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 8:30:43 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/14/18 8:48 PM, Bill wrote:

On 2/14/18 6:13 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

The hatred and division of adults are obviously affecting the
younger people.Â* Horrible event in Florida.

Maybe is proof mental health professionals suck.


I think the problems we have here in the USA is cultural and is
multi-faceted. They include:

Dependence on social media for interaction with others. Social media
removes real human interaction and creates an artificial world with
little emotional feedback. Hell, the expression of normal body language
has been replaced by "emoticons".

Too many or too strict privacy laws. HIPAA laws should be revised to
allow medical and mental health professionals to alert law enforcement
of suspected threats by those with aggressive tendencies or who
represent a danger to to society.

Parental responsibility for teaching and disciplining of kids has
increasingly been shifted to their teachers and schools. Schools are
for academic learning, not for raising kids. Now-a-days parents don't
always support the school systems or rules. They sue them if they
think little Johnny has been mistreated.

Far too much of an "entitlement" philosophy today. A feeling of
unfulfilled entitlement leads to frustration, and confusion. We need
to re-enforce the concept of self responsibility and accountability.
Need to reign in some of the liberal preaching in schools.

Too easy to acquire assault type rifles. Most states have a legal age
for "long guns" of 18 years but 21 years for handguns. Most of these
mass shootings are done with assault type rifles.

But, of course, the immediate reaction by the DC crowd focuses only on
gun control.

There has been a paradigm shift in parenting in this country in the last
few decades, foisted on us by child psychologists and the well meaning
but misguided left. We can't urge our children to win, we have to
nurture them and give them participation trophies. No spanking, just
talk to them like you're their friend. No keeping score, and no red ink
on school papers. Can't make that child feel bad, why, they are entitled to have it all!

Well guess what. Your job as a parent is NOT to be your child's friend.
It is to teach them how to be a well-adjusted kid and adult. If you
and society have shielded them all their lives, when the real world
smacks them in the face they may just snap.



Stealing Don's line, "I wholeheartedly agree with this post".


This kid was reported a year ago for posting he was going to be a
professional school shooter. Why was he not monitored? Guns maybe be
part of the problem, but they were not hard to get when I was a kid. Lot
easier to legally acquire. Why not the same gun problems then? Guns are
a tool of the warped people, not the reason. We need to find a cure for
the reason, not take tools away.


I was just reading about the YouTube blogger who reported the post made
by Cruz back in 2017 about "going to be a professional school shooter"
to the FBI. The blogger said the local office of the FBI immediately
met with him, took the screen capture of Cruz's post and that's the last
he ever heard about it. Until yesterday.

Seems there are some problems even in the FBI. Why wasn't he
questioned? Why didn't they do something?
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On 2/15/18 8:30 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 2/14/18 8:48 PM, Bill wrote:


On 2/14/18 6:13 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


The hatred and division of adults are obviously affecting the
younger people.Â* Horrible event in Florida.


Maybe is proof mental health professionals suck.



I think the problems we have here in the USA is cultural and is
multi-faceted.Â* They include:

Dependence on social media for interaction with others.Â* Social media
removes real human interaction and creates an artificial world with
little emotional feedback.Â* Hell, the expression of normal body language
has been replaced by "emoticons".

Too many or too strict privacy laws.Â* HIPAA laws should be revised to
allow medical and mental health professionals to alert law enforcement
of suspected threats by those with aggressive tendencies or who
represent a danger to to society.

Parental responsibility for teaching and disciplining of kids has
increasingly been shifted to their teachers and schools.Â* Schools are
for academic learning, not for raising kids. Now-a-days parents don't
always support the school systems or rules.Â* They sue them if they
think little Johnny has been mistreated.

Far too much of an "entitlement" philosophy today.Â* A feeling of
unfulfilled entitlement leads to frustration, and confusion.Â* We need
to re-enforce the concept of self responsibility and accountability.
Need to reign in some of the liberal preaching in schools.

Too easy to acquire assault type rifles.Â* Most states have a legal age
for "long guns" of 18 years but 21 years for handguns.Â* Most of these
mass shootings are done with assault type rifles.

But, of course, the immediate reaction by the DC crowd focuses only on
gun control.



Society is similar among many Western-style countries...and yet only one
country has the numbers of and sorts of mass shootings under discussion
here.

Which country is that, and what is different about it?
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On 2/15/18 10:06 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/15/2018 9:50 AM, Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/15/2018 9:13 AM, Its Me wrote:
On Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 8:30:43 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/14/18 8:48 PM, Bill wrote:

On 2/14/18 6:13 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

The hatred and division of adults are obviously affecting the
younger people.Â* Horrible event in Florida.

Maybe is proof mental health professionals suck.


I think the problems we have here in the USA is cultural and is
multi-faceted.Â* They include:

Dependence on social media for interaction with others.Â* Social media
removes real human interaction and creates an artificial world with
little emotional feedback.Â* Hell, the expression of normal body
language
has been replaced by "emoticons".

Too many or too strict privacy laws.Â* HIPAA laws should be revised to
allow medical and mental health professionals to alert law enforcement
of suspected threats by those with aggressive tendencies or who
represent a danger to to society.

Parental responsibility for teaching and disciplining of kids has
increasingly been shifted to their teachers and schools.Â* Schools are
for academic learning, not for raising kids. Now-a-days parents don't
always support the school systems or rules.Â* They sue them if they
think little Johnny has been mistreated.

Far too much of an "entitlement" philosophy today.Â* A feeling of
unfulfilled entitlement leads to frustration, and confusion.Â* We need
to re-enforce the concept of self responsibility and accountability.
Need to reign in some of the liberal preaching in schools.

Too easy to acquire assault type rifles.Â* Most states have a legal age
for "long guns" of 18 years but 21 years for handguns.Â* Most of these
mass shootings are done with assault type rifles.

But, of course, the immediate reaction by the DC crowd focuses only on
gun control.

There has been a paradigm shift in parenting in this country in the
last
few decades, foisted on us by child psychologists and the well meaning
but misguided left.Â* We can't urge our children to win, we have to
nurture them and give them participation trophies.Â*Â* No spanking, just
talk to them like you're their friend.Â* No keeping score, and no red
ink
on school papers.Â* Can't make that child feel bad, why, they are
entitled to have it all!

Well guess what.Â* Your job as a parent is NOT to be your child's
friend.
Â* It is to teach them how to be a well-adjusted kid and adult.Â* If you
and society have shielded them all their lives, when the real world
smacks them in the face they may just snap.



Stealing Don's line, "I wholeheartedly agree with this post".


This kid was reported a year ago for posting he was going to be a
professional school shooter.Â* Why was he not monitored?Â*Â* Guns maybe be
part of the problem, but they were not hard to get when I was a kid.
Lot
easier to legally acquire.Â*Â* Why not the same gun problems then?
Guns are
a tool of the warped people, not the reason.Â* We need to find a cure for
the reason, not take tools away.


I was just reading about the YouTube blogger who reported the post made
by Cruz back in 2017 about "going to be a professional school shooter"
to the FBI.Â* The blogger said the local office of the FBI immediately
met with him, took the screen capture of Cruz's post and that's the last
he ever heard about it.Â* Until yesterday.

Seems there are some problems even in the FBI.Â* Why wasn't he
questioned?Â* Why didn't they do something?


An FBI spokesperson said the bureau was not able to identity the person
who left that post on the blog. Hard to question an individual you
cannot identify, eh?
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On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 07:54:04 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 2/14/18 8:48 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 2/14/18 6:13 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/14/2018 5:31 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 2/14/18 5:28 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/14/2018 5:25 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 2/14/18 5:00 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

The hatred and division of adults are obviously affecting the
younger people.* Horrible event in Florida.


Did Trump tweet his "thoughts and prayers" yet?

https://www.thoughtsandprayersthegame.com/


**** you asshole.


Oh...don't you think "thoughts and prayers" are enough? Should we be
doing something else? What do you think we should do?



We can start by exposing the lying,* hate filled, selfish, self serving
assholes like you.* Again, **** YOU.* You are disgusting.



You must be referring to my disdain for and disgust with the current
POTUS, who offers nothing but thoughts and prayers, and his Republican
Congress, who are entirely in the back pocket of the NRA. Your POTUS is
also a lying grifter who shelters wife beaters in his administration and
who cavorts with prostitutes. What an example he sets for our nation's
youth, eh?

The Broward County sheriff is reporting 17 dead and at least two dozen
injured. Don't forget to think about the dead and injured and pray for
them, too. That'll help. And since you don't believe in mental health
treatment, there's no need to try that, eh?


Maybe is proof mental health professionals suck.


Because mental health services are not available to youngsters most in
need? You certainly have all the simple-minded nonsense down pat.


Bull****. Mental health professionals are available to any high school kid in need.
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 2/15/18 8:30 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 2/14/18 8:48 PM, Bill wrote:


On 2/14/18 6:13 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


The hatred and division of adults are obviously affecting the
younger people.Â* Horrible event in Florida.


Maybe is proof mental health professionals suck.



I think the problems we have here in the USA is cultural and is
multi-faceted.Â* They include:

Dependence on social media for interaction with others.Â* Social media
removes real human interaction and creates an artificial world with
little emotional feedback.Â* Hell, the expression of normal body language
has been replaced by "emoticons".

Too many or too strict privacy laws.Â* HIPAA laws should be revised to
allow medical and mental health professionals to alert law enforcement
of suspected threats by those with aggressive tendencies or who
represent a danger to to society.

Parental responsibility for teaching and disciplining of kids has
increasingly been shifted to their teachers and schools.Â* Schools are
for academic learning, not for raising kids. Now-a-days parents don't
always support the school systems or rules.Â* They sue them if they
think little Johnny has been mistreated.

Far too much of an "entitlement" philosophy today.Â* A feeling of
unfulfilled entitlement leads to frustration, and confusion.Â* We need
to re-enforce the concept of self responsibility and accountability.
Need to reign in some of the liberal preaching in schools.

Too easy to acquire assault type rifles.Â* Most states have a legal age
for "long guns" of 18 years but 21 years for handguns.Â* Most of these
mass shootings are done with assault type rifles.

But, of course, the immediate reaction by the DC crowd focuses only on
gun control.



Society is similar among many Western-style countries...and yet only one
country has the numbers of and sorts of mass shootings under discussion
here.

Which country is that, and what is different about it?


We are the only ones massively drugging our kids?



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On 2/15/18 11:01 AM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 2/15/18 8:30 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 2/14/18 8:48 PM, Bill wrote:

On 2/14/18 6:13 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

The hatred and division of adults are obviously affecting the
younger people.Â* Horrible event in Florida.

Maybe is proof mental health professionals suck.


I think the problems we have here in the USA is cultural and is
multi-faceted.Â* They include:

Dependence on social media for interaction with others.Â* Social media
removes real human interaction and creates an artificial world with
little emotional feedback.Â* Hell, the expression of normal body language
has been replaced by "emoticons".

Too many or too strict privacy laws.Â* HIPAA laws should be revised to
allow medical and mental health professionals to alert law enforcement
of suspected threats by those with aggressive tendencies or who
represent a danger to to society.

Parental responsibility for teaching and disciplining of kids has
increasingly been shifted to their teachers and schools.Â* Schools are
for academic learning, not for raising kids. Now-a-days parents don't
always support the school systems or rules.Â* They sue them if they
think little Johnny has been mistreated.

Far too much of an "entitlement" philosophy today.Â* A feeling of
unfulfilled entitlement leads to frustration, and confusion.Â* We need
to re-enforce the concept of self responsibility and accountability.
Need to reign in some of the liberal preaching in schools.

Too easy to acquire assault type rifles.Â* Most states have a legal age
for "long guns" of 18 years but 21 years for handguns.Â* Most of these
mass shootings are done with assault type rifles.

But, of course, the immediate reaction by the DC crowd focuses only on
gun control.



Society is similar among many Western-style countries...and yet only one
country has the numbers of and sorts of mass shootings under discussion
here.

Which country is that, and what is different about it?


We are the only ones massively drugging our kids?


Maybe it is because we are the only western country in which there is
such easy access to guns. Ever consider that?
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On Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 11:15:02 AM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 2/15/18 11:01 AM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 2/15/18 8:30 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 2/14/18 8:48 PM, Bill wrote:

On 2/14/18 6:13 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

The hatred and division of adults are obviously affecting the
younger people.Â* Horrible event in Florida.

Maybe is proof mental health professionals suck.


I think the problems we have here in the USA is cultural and is
multi-faceted.Â* They include:

Dependence on social media for interaction with others.Â* Social media
removes real human interaction and creates an artificial world with
little emotional feedback.Â* Hell, the expression of normal body language
has been replaced by "emoticons".

Too many or too strict privacy laws.Â* HIPAA laws should be revised to
allow medical and mental health professionals to alert law enforcement
of suspected threats by those with aggressive tendencies or who
represent a danger to to society.

Parental responsibility for teaching and disciplining of kids has
increasingly been shifted to their teachers and schools.Â* Schools are
for academic learning, not for raising kids. Now-a-days parents don't
always support the school systems or rules.Â* They sue them if they
think little Johnny has been mistreated.

Far too much of an "entitlement" philosophy today.Â* A feeling of
unfulfilled entitlement leads to frustration, and confusion.Â* We need
to re-enforce the concept of self responsibility and accountability.
Need to reign in some of the liberal preaching in schools.

Too easy to acquire assault type rifles.Â* Most states have a legal age
for "long guns" of 18 years but 21 years for handguns.Â* Most of these
mass shootings are done with assault type rifles.

But, of course, the immediate reaction by the DC crowd focuses only on
gun control.



Society is similar among many Western-style countries...and yet only one
country has the numbers of and sorts of mass shootings under discussion
here.

Which country is that, and what is different about it?


We are the only ones massively drugging our kids?


Maybe it is because we are the only western country in which there is
such easy access to guns. Ever consider that?


There is even easier access to kitchen knives, hammers and cars, but it is far more rare that a troubled person uses one of those to kill someone.

There must be something other than easy access to drive them to use a gun, eh?
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On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 07:52:52 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 2/14/18 6:04 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 2/14/18 5:28 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/14/2018 5:25 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 2/14/18 5:00 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

The hatred and division of adults are obviously affecting the younger
people.Â* Horrible event in Florida.


Did Trump tweet his "thoughts and prayers" yet?

https://www.thoughtsandprayersthegame.com/


**** you asshole.


Oh...don't you think "thoughts and prayers" are enough? Should we be
doing something else? What do you think we should do?




Maybe ban all the RAP and movies glorifying the use of terror in everyday
living?


The same music and movies are available in all modern democracies around
the world, yet this is the country that has had 18 school shootings this
year. It's not the music and movies.


I think our kids make movies and music more of their culture than a
lot of other countries.
They may be wearing hoodies and "fitty cent" T shirts in Germany but
they are not emulating the gangster lifestyle as much. They can manage
to have a thriving drug trade in their cities without the 200-300
murders a year that seem to accompany it here.
Part of it, of course, is that Americans tend to simply be more
violent than most Europeans. I suppose that is why we get called in to
settle their wars.
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On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 07:54:04 -0500, Keyser Soze
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Because mental health services are not available to youngsters most in
need? You certainly have all the simple-minded nonsense down pat.


Actually Cruz was "in treatment" but Hippa laws prevent us really
hearing any details and he did not seem to be on the local police
radar, although the FBI knew about him from 2 threat reports. I guess
they were too busy investigating trump to spend any time alerting
local authorities. It was still not enough to flag him in the
background check system. So much for those background checks you think
will solve all of our problems.
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On 2/15/18 12:31 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 07:52:52 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 2/14/18 6:04 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 2/14/18 5:28 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/14/2018 5:25 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 2/14/18 5:00 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

The hatred and division of adults are obviously affecting the younger
people.Â* Horrible event in Florida.


Did Trump tweet his "thoughts and prayers" yet?

https://www.thoughtsandprayersthegame.com/


**** you asshole.


Oh...don't you think "thoughts and prayers" are enough? Should we be
doing something else? What do you think we should do?




Maybe ban all the RAP and movies glorifying the use of terror in everyday
living?


The same music and movies are available in all modern democracies around
the world, yet this is the country that has had 18 school shootings this
year. It's not the music and movies.


I think our kids make movies and music more of their culture than a
lot of other countries.
They may be wearing hoodies and "fitty cent" T shirts in Germany but
they are not emulating the gangster lifestyle as much. They can manage
to have a thriving drug trade in their cities without the 200-300
murders a year that seem to accompany it here.
Part of it, of course, is that Americans tend to simply be more
violent than most Europeans. I suppose that is why we get called in to
settle their wars.




It is not as easy for a 19-year-old in Germany as it was for that
19-year-old in Florida to walk into a gun store and walk out with an
AR-type rifle.

In Germany, anyone younger than 25 has to pass a psychiatric exam before
he or she is allowed to apply for a gun license. Anyone applying for a
gun has to wait a year, pass rigorous tests and have a legitimate reason
for owning a gun.



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