On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 09:21:42 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


10:51 AMKeyser Soze
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That's because you are an asshole, W'hine. Every plastic bottle, every
empty can, every piece of scrap, is picked up, put into trash bags, and
taken to the dump. We separate out the plastic bottles and cans. I'd bet
we cause less pollution than those marine diesels of yours do, since
they are well-known for dumping out a large quantity of toxic gases and
solid substances.
.
—— doesn’t your “boat� have twin Volvo diesels?

The boat who is pollution less cast the first stone...

These 3 star 4 strokes are pretty close. If you give me credit for all
the trash we pull out of the water I think I am better than net zero.
This was just our first pass down the river after Irma.. We made a
pile like this 3 or 4 times.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Irma/Irma%2...om%20river.jpg

We pick up stuff every time we go out tho. It is mostly trash but I
will never have to buy PFDs, fenders, boat hooks, landing nets or just
about anything that can fall off a boat. I always drop the plastic
furniture we find on someone's dock who looks like they need it.

On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 09:21:42 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:


10:51 AMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
That's because you are an asshole, W'hine. Every plastic bottle, every
empty can, every piece of scrap, is picked up, put into trash bags, and
taken to the dump. We separate out the plastic bottles and cans. I'd bet
we cause less pollution than those marine diesels of yours do, since
they are well-known for dumping out a large quantity of toxic gases and
solid substances.
.
—— doesn’t your “boat” have twin Volvo diesels?

The boat who is pollution less cast the first stone...

Should have read your post first. Harry just blew it. Another lie down the tube.

Wonder who's keeping the list?

On 2/15/18 2:35 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 09:21:42 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


10:51 AMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
That's because you are an asshole, W'hine. Every plastic bottle, every
empty can, every piece of scrap, is picked up, put into trash bags, and
taken to the dump. We separate out the plastic bottles and cans. I'd bet
we cause less pollution than those marine diesels of yours do, since
they are well-known for dumping out a large quantity of toxic gases and
solid substances.
.
—— doesn’t your “boat� have twin Volvo diesels?

The boat who is pollution less cast the first stone...

These 3 star 4 strokes are pretty close.

Some of those older diesels are real pollution hawgs.

On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 11:51:11 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 2/14/18 9:54 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 18:42:54 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

I'm lucky, I guess, that the paper targets, soda bottles, and empty cans
I like to hunt can't shoot back.

===

I hope you pick up every bit of that litter when you're done but
frankly I doubt it.

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That's because you are an asshole, W'hine. Every plastic bottle, every
empty can, every piece of scrap, is picked up, put into trash bags, and
taken to the dump. We separate out the plastic bottles and cans. I'd bet
we cause less pollution than those marine diesels of yours do, since
they are well-known for dumping out a large quantity of toxic gases and
solid substances. Oh, and when you run your boat's genny while you are
in the canal...well, that must be pleasant, eh?

===

You seem a bit touchier than usual. Everything OK in your
dysfunctional life? How's the IRS treating you these days? Maybe
they'll let you own your own boat if you're a good boy.

On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 15:26:57 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 2/15/18 2:35 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 09:21:42 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


10:51 AMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
That's because you are an asshole, W'hine. Every plastic bottle, every
empty can, every piece of scrap, is picked up, put into trash bags, and
taken to the dump. We separate out the plastic bottles and cans. I'd bet
we cause less pollution than those marine diesels of yours do, since
they are well-known for dumping out a large quantity of toxic gases and
solid substances.
.
—— doesn’t your “boat� have twin Volvo diesels?

The boat who is pollution less cast the first stone...

These 3 star 4 strokes are pretty close.

Some of those older diesels are real pollution hawgs.

So were all of the old 2 strokes. I have been running 3 star motors
for 16 years and I am not sure I ever saw a sheen on the water from
either of them unless I just did not wash it down well after
maintenance and I had some oil on the foot. I usually spray it down
good with green soap wipe everything with a rag and hose it off. No
sheen ;-)
I will say Mercury has a better design on the oiling system than
Yamaha. If you let a Merc sit for a while, the oil filter drains and
does not drip. The Yamaha dumps almost a filter's worth of oil into
the lower cowl. You really need to stuff a big terry cloth rag under
it. Those Sam's "Bar Mops" are the perfect size.
This is strange to me since the Merc 60 and my F70 use the same block
and filter.

On 2/15/18 6:07 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 15:26:57 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 2/15/18 2:35 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 09:21:42 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


10:51 AMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
That's because you are an asshole, W'hine. Every plastic bottle, every
empty can, every piece of scrap, is picked up, put into trash bags, and
taken to the dump. We separate out the plastic bottles and cans. I'd bet
we cause less pollution than those marine diesels of yours do, since
they are well-known for dumping out a large quantity of toxic gases and
solid substances.
.
—— doesn’t your “boat� have twin Volvo diesels?

The boat who is pollution less cast the first stone...

These 3 star 4 strokes are pretty close.

Some of those older diesels are real pollution hawgs.

So were all of the old 2 strokes. I have been running 3 star motors
for 16 years and I am not sure I ever saw a sheen on the water from
either of them unless I just did not wash it down well after
maintenance and I had some oil on the foot. I usually spray it down
good with green soap wipe everything with a rag and hose it off. No
sheen ;-)
I will say Mercury has a better design on the oiling system than
Yamaha. If you let a Merc sit for a while, the oil filter drains and
does not drip. The Yamaha dumps almost a filter's worth of oil into
the lower cowl. You really need to stuff a big terry cloth rag under
it. Those Sam's "Bar Mops" are the perfect size.
This is strange to me since the Merc 60 and my F70 use the same block
and filter.


Most of those old tech 2 stroke outboards are dead and buried, but
W'hine's old diesels are still big time polluters.

On Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 3:51:14 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 11:51:11 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 2/14/18 9:54 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 18:42:54 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

I'm lucky, I guess, that the paper targets, soda bottles, and empty cans
I like to hunt can't shoot back.

===

I hope you pick up every bit of that litter when you're done but
frankly I doubt it.

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That's because you are an asshole, W'hine. Every plastic bottle, every
empty can, every piece of scrap, is picked up, put into trash bags, and
taken to the dump. We separate out the plastic bottles and cans. I'd bet
we cause less pollution than those marine diesels of yours do, since
they are well-known for dumping out a large quantity of toxic gases and
solid substances. Oh, and when you run your boat's genny while you are
in the canal...well, that must be pleasant, eh?

===

You seem a bit touchier than usual. Everything OK in your
dysfunctional life? How's the IRS treating you these days? Maybe
they'll let you own your own boat if you're a good boy.

He was supposedly offline for a few days having a fabulous vacation in Cooba. If that's really the case, why would he be so bitchy now?

On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 18:55:14 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 2/15/18 6:07 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 15:26:57 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 2/15/18 2:35 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 09:21:42 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


10:51 AMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
That's because you are an asshole, W'hine. Every plastic bottle, every
empty can, every piece of scrap, is picked up, put into trash bags, and
taken to the dump. We separate out the plastic bottles and cans. I'd bet
we cause less pollution than those marine diesels of yours do, since
they are well-known for dumping out a large quantity of toxic gases and
solid substances.
.
—— doesn’t your “boat” have twin Volvo diesels?

The boat who is pollution less cast the first stone...

These 3 star 4 strokes are pretty close.

Some of those older diesels are real pollution hawgs.

So were all of the old 2 strokes. I have been running 3 star motors
for 16 years and I am not sure I ever saw a sheen on the water from
either of them unless I just did not wash it down well after
maintenance and I had some oil on the foot. I usually spray it down
good with green soap wipe everything with a rag and hose it off. No
sheen ;-)
I will say Mercury has a better design on the oiling system than
Yamaha. If you let a Merc sit for a while, the oil filter drains and
does not drip. The Yamaha dumps almost a filter's worth of oil into
the lower cowl. You really need to stuff a big terry cloth rag under
it. Those Sam's "Bar Mops" are the perfect size.
This is strange to me since the Merc 60 and my F70 use the same block
and filter.


Most of those old tech 2 stroke outboards are dead and buried, but
W'hine's old diesels are still big time polluters.

Trying to cover up your bull****, Krause?

On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 16:08:17 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote:

On Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 3:51:14 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 11:51:11 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 2/14/18 9:54 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 18:42:54 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

I'm lucky, I guess, that the paper targets, soda bottles, and empty cans
I like to hunt can't shoot back.

===

I hope you pick up every bit of that litter when you're done but
frankly I doubt it.

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That's because you are an asshole, W'hine. Every plastic bottle, every
empty can, every piece of scrap, is picked up, put into trash bags, and
taken to the dump. We separate out the plastic bottles and cans. I'd bet
we cause less pollution than those marine diesels of yours do, since
they are well-known for dumping out a large quantity of toxic gases and
solid substances. Oh, and when you run your boat's genny while you are
in the canal...well, that must be pleasant, eh?

===

You seem a bit touchier than usual. Everything OK in your
dysfunctional life? How's the IRS treating you these days? Maybe
they'll let you own your own boat if you're a good boy.

He was supposedly offline for a few days having a fabulous vacation in Cooba. If that's really the case, why would he be so bitchy now?

'Cause he caught himself in another lie bitching about 'marine diesels', of which he supposedly has
two. Now he's trying to undue it by blaming 'old' marine diesels. He's a crafty little
bugger...well, not so little, I suppose.

On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 18:55:14 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 2/15/18 6:07 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 15:26:57 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 2/15/18 2:35 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 09:21:42 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


10:51 AMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
That's because you are an asshole, W'hine. Every plastic bottle, every
empty can, every piece of scrap, is picked up, put into trash bags, and
taken to the dump. We separate out the plastic bottles and cans. I'd bet
we cause less pollution than those marine diesels of yours do, since
they are well-known for dumping out a large quantity of toxic gases and
solid substances.
.
—— doesn’t your “boat� have twin Volvo diesels?

The boat who is pollution less cast the first stone...

These 3 star 4 strokes are pretty close.

Some of those older diesels are real pollution hawgs.

So were all of the old 2 strokes. I have been running 3 star motors
for 16 years and I am not sure I ever saw a sheen on the water from
either of them unless I just did not wash it down well after
maintenance and I had some oil on the foot. I usually spray it down
good with green soap wipe everything with a rag and hose it off. No
sheen ;-)
I will say Mercury has a better design on the oiling system than
Yamaha. If you let a Merc sit for a while, the oil filter drains and
does not drip. The Yamaha dumps almost a filter's worth of oil into
the lower cowl. You really need to stuff a big terry cloth rag under
it. Those Sam's "Bar Mops" are the perfect size.
This is strange to me since the Merc 60 and my F70 use the same block
and filter.


Most of those old tech 2 stroke outboards are dead and buried,

Actually that is far from true. If you hang out on real boat groups
you will find there are lots of hard core 2 stroke people who would
never consider a 4 stroke. That is really when you get to the smaller
sizes where a 2 stroke is a "one man carry" motor and you need a
wheeled cart to handle a comparable 4 stroke.
For a 15hp it is ~80-85 pounds for the 2 stroke and well 125 for a 4
stroke. (wet)
Even in larger sizes the 3 cylinder Yamaha/Mercury/Mariners still have
a huge following (75-90 HP) and the ox66 may be one of the most
popular Yamahas of all time. There are 3 running regularly in my
neighborhood. They may smoke and not idle worth a **** but they run
80-90% of WOT all day long. Mortal man also has a chance of fixing one
on the water with a few hand tools.
All that said, I am not in that crowd. Fuel injection and a computer
does not scare me. I would rather not have a motor that is "easy to
fix" I would rather have one that doesn't break, even if I am giving
up a 75 pound weight penalty.