"Messing In Boats" wrote in message
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I wear a T-shirt, hand lettered on the back, "This vet wants to DUMP
BUSH." I meet the most interesting people this way.

Last week a guy admonished me, stating I should give the administration
a break, that they are "doing the best they can do." What a sobering
thought.

Capt. Jeff

Low expectations. Sad.

jps wrote:

Low expectations. Sad.

Yes, but they are fulfilled daily.

Rick

"Rick" wrote in message
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jps wrote:

Low expectations. Sad.

Yes, but they are fulfilled daily.

Just like in Moscow.

jps wrote:

Just like in Moscow.

As a member of the generation that grew up during the darkest years of
the "cold war" I remember the daily doses of propaganda that propped up
the likes of J.Edgar and his ilk.

It simply amazes me when I hear representatives of our current crop of
sorry excuses for leaders spouting the same things their predecessors
used to claim were reasons to fear and hate the "godless commies" who
threatened our freedom.

I believe the only reading any of those fascist wannabes have ever read
is the "Kremlin Handbook of Propaganda and Civil Disinformation" They
have mastered it.

Rick

"Rick" wrote in message
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jps wrote:

Just like in Moscow.

As a member of the generation that grew up during the darkest years of
the "cold war" I remember the daily doses of propaganda that propped up
the likes of J.Edgar and his ilk.

It simply amazes me when I hear representatives of our current crop of
sorry excuses for leaders spouting the same things their predecessors
used to claim were reasons to fear and hate the "godless commies" who
threatened our freedom.

I believe the only reading any of those fascist wannabes have ever read
is the "Kremlin Handbook of Propaganda and Civil Disinformation" They
have mastered it.

Rick


There's another period that bears comparison and that's Orwell's 1984 (or,
more accurately, England 1948). Bush's presidency will be historically
revealed as Karl Rove's Big Brother communications experiment. He's proven
the methodology still works as well as ever. One can only hope it's just
another outbreak and something will slap us back to consciousness.

WaIIy wrote:

I enjoy seeing the liberal faction in their own circle jerk.

This is not surprising. Many studies have shown that the authoritarian
personality, that represented most often by self described
"conservatives," is most often associated with those displaying
psychoscocial pathologies.

Wally's post is an excellent example of such a condition. Hopefully his
symptoms are limited to his self admitted voyeurism.

Rick

Putting the Lie to Bushisms
http://irregulartimes.com/lie.html


"jps" wrote in message ...
So what if he can't manage to assemble whole thoughts and articulate them.

I give you our illustrious President.

"General Musharraf of Pakistan is a Democrat"
George W. Bush

"The inhabitants of Greece are the Greecians"
George W. Bush

"The French don't have a word for 'Entrepreneur'"
George W.. Bush

Claim: President George W. Bush proclaimed, "The problem with the
French is that they don't have a word for entrepreneur."
Status: False.

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/bush.htm




"The vast majority of our imports come from outside the country."
George W.Bush

"If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure."
George W. Bush

"If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure."
(maybe Al Gore?)
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3...037a7.htm&av=1

(Or was it Dan Quayle?)
http://www.quoteworld.org/browse.php...t=fail&page=16



"I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the
future."
George W. Bush

"The future will be better tomorrow."
George W. Bush

"We're going to have the best educated American people in the world."
George W. Bush

"We're going to have the best educated American people in the world."
Attributed to George W. Bush, Jr., 9/21/97
Verdict: Spoken by Dan Quayle



"I stand by all the misstatements that I've made."
George W. Bush

"We have a firm commitment to NATO, we are a part of NATO. We have a firm
commitment to
Europe. We are a part of Europe."
George W. Bush

"We have a firm commitment to NATO, we are a part of NATO. We have a
firm commitment to Europe. We are a part of Europe."
Attributed to George W. Bush, Jr.
Verdict: Spoken by Dan Quayle



"A low voter turnout is an indication of fewer people going to the polls."
George W. Bush

"For NASA, space is still a high priority."
George W. Bush

"Quite frankly, teachers are the only profession that teach our children."
George W. Bush

"It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in
our air and
water that are doing it."
George W. Bush

"It's time for the human race to enter the solar system."
George W. Bush

Putting the Lie to Bushisms
http://irregulartimes.com/lie.html


OOPS! That page is several years old, (Al Gore was still running for POTUS when
it was constructed), but it did contain a useful link to a site with actual,
current Bushisms.

Thanks!

One of my favorites at the refenced sites:
"This is an open forum. You are able to come and listen to what I have to say."
:-)

http://slate.msn.com/id/76886/

"People make suggestions on what to say all the time. I'll give you an example;
I don't read what's handed to me. People say, 'Here, here's your speech, or
here's an idea for a speech.' They're changed. Trust me."—Interview with the
New York Times, March 15, 2000

For once, I believe every word in in entire paragraph uttered by GWB!

Putting the Lie to Bushisms
http://irregulartimes.com/lie.html

"Putting the lie to Bushims" implies that genuine Bushism's don't exist.

Here are a few collected since the beginning of this year alone. Each statement
is followed by the date is was made, to assist those interested in verifying
same.

"[A]s you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I
have to say." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Oct. 28, 2003

"The ambassador and the general were briefing me on the — the vast majority
of Iraqis want to live in a peaceful, free world. And we will find these people
and we will bring them to justice." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Oct.
27, 2003

"[W]hether they be Christian, Jew, or Muslim, or Hindu, people have heard the
universal call to love a neighbor just like they'd like to be called
themselves." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., October 8, 2003

"See, free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each other.
Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction." —George W. Bush,
Milwaukee, Wis., Oct. 3, 2003

"Washington is a town where there's all kinds of allegations. You've heard much
of the allegations. And if people have got solid information, please come
forward with it. And that would be people inside the information who are the
so-called anonymous sources, or people outside the information — outside the
administration." —George W. Bush, Chicago, Sept. 30, 2003

"[W]e've had leaks out of the administrative branch, had leaks out of the
legislative branch, and out of the executive branch and the legislative branch,
and I've spoken out consistently against them, and I want to know who the
leakers are." —George W. Bush, Chicago, Sept. 30, 2003

"I glance at the headlines just to kind of get a flavor for what's moving. I
rarely read the stories, and get briefed by people who are probably read the
news themselves." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Sept. 21, 2003

"I'm so pleased to be able to say hello to Bill Scranton. He's one of the
great Pennsylvania political families." —George W. Bush, Drexel Hill, Penn.,
Sept. 15, 2003

"We had a chance to visit with Teresa Nelson who's a parent, and a mom or a
dad." —George W. Bush, Jacksonville, Florida, Sept. 9, 2003

"As Luce reminded me, he said, without data, without facts, without
information, the discussions about public education mean that a person is just
another opinion." —George W. Bush, Jacksonville, Florida, Sept. 9, 2003

"I'm a follower of American politics." —George W. Bush, Crawford, Texas, Aug.
8, 2003

"[T]hat's just the nature of democracy. Sometimes pure politics enters into the
rhetoric." —George W. Bush,l Crawford, Texas, Aug. 8, 2003

"We had a good Cabinet meeting, talked about a lot of issues. Secretary of
State and Defense brought us up to date about our desires to spread freedom and
peace around the world." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Aug. 1, 2003

"Security is the essential roadblock to achieving the road map to peace."
—George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., July 25, 2003

"Our country puts $1 billion a year up to help feed the hungry. And we're by
far the most generous nation in the world when it comes to that, and I'm proud
to report that. This isn't a contest of who's the most generous. I'm just
telling you as an aside. We're generous. We shouldn't be bragging about it. But
we are. We're very generous." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., July 16,
2003

"It's very interesting when you think about it, the slaves who left here to go
to America, because of their steadfast and their religion and their belief in
freedom, helped change America." —George W. Bush, Dakar, Senegal, July 8,
2003

"My answer is bring them on."—On Iraqi militants attacking U.S. forces,
George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., July 3, 2003

"You've also got to measure in order to begin to effect change that's just more
— when there's more than talk, there's just actual — a paradigm shift."
—George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., July 1, 2003

"I urge the leaders in Europe and around the world to take swift, decisive
action against terror groups such as Hamas, to cut off their funding, and to
support — cut funding and support, as the United States has done." —George
W. Bush, Washington, D.C., June 25, 2003

"Iran would be dangerous if they have a nuclear weapon." —George W. Bush,
Washington, D.C., June 18, 2003

"Now, there are some who would like to rewrite history—revisionist historians
is what I like to call them." —George W. Bush, Elizabeth, N.J., June 16, 2003

"I am determined to keep the process on the road to peace." —George W. Bush,
Washington, D.C., June 10, 2003

"The true strength of America happens when a neighbor loves a neighbor just
like they'd like to be loved themselves." —George W. Bush, Elizabeth, N.J.,
June 16, 2003

"We are making steadfast progress." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., June
9, 2003

"I'm the master of low expectations." —George W. Bush, aboard Air Force One,
June 4, 2003

"I'm also not very analytical. You know I don't spend a lot of time thinking
about myself, about why I do things." —George W. Bush, aboard Air Force One,
June 4, 2003

"I recently met with the finance minister of the Palestinian Authority, was
very impressed by his grasp of finances." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.,
May 29, 2003

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"Oftentimes, we live in a processed world — you know, people focus on the
process and not results." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., May 29, 2003

"I've got very good relations with President Mubarak and Crown Prince Abdallah
and the King of Jordan, Gulf Coast countries." —George W. Bush, Washington,
D.C., May 29, 2003

"All up and down the different aspects of our society, we had meaningful
discussions. Not only in the Cabinet Room, but prior to this and after this
day, our secretaries, respective secretaries, will continue to interact to
create the conditions necessary for prosperity to reign." —George W. Bush,
Washington, D.C., May 19, 2003

"First, let me make it very clear, poor people aren't necessarily killers. Just
because you happen to be not rich doesn't mean you're willing to kill."
—George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., May 19, 2003

"We've had a great weekend here in the Land of the Enchanted." —George W.
Bush, Albuquerque, N.M., May 12, 2003 (New Mexico's state nickname is "Land of
Enchantment")


"I think war is a dangerous place." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., May 7,
2003

"We ended the rule of one of history's worst tyrants, and in so doing, we not
only freed the American people, we made our own people more secure." —George
W. Bush, Crawford, Texas, May 3, 2003

"We've got hundreds of sites to exploit, looking for the chemical and
biological weapons that we know Saddam Hussein had prior to our entrance into
Iraq." —George W. Bush, Santa Clara, Calif., May 2, 2003

"I don't bring God into my life to — to, you know, kind of be a political
person." —George W. Bush, interview with Tom Brokaw aboard Air Force One,
April 24, 2003

"You're free. And freedom is beautiful. And, you know, it'll take time to
restore chaos and order — order out of chaos. But we will." —George W.
Bush, Washington, D.C., April 13, 2003

"Perhaps one way will be, if we use military force, in the post-Saddam Iraq the
U.N. will definitely need to have a role. And that way it can begin to get its
legs, legs of responsibility back." —George W. Bush, the Azores, Portugal,
March 16, 2003

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"Now, we talked to Joan Hanover. She and her husband, George, were visiting
with us. They are near retirement — retiring — in the process of retiring,
meaning they're very smart, active, capable people who are retirement age and
are retiring." —George W. Bush, Alexandria, Va., Feb. 12, 2003

"[The Space Shuttle] Columbia carried in its payroll classroom experiments from
some of our students in America." —George W. Bush, Bethesda, Md., Feb. 3,
2003

"And, most importantly, Alma Powell, secretary of Colin Powell, is with us."
—George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 30, 2003


"The war on terror involves Saddam Hussein because of the nature of Saddam
Hussein, the history of Saddam Hussein, and his willingness to terrorize
himself." —George W. Bush, Grand Rapids, Mich., Jan. 29, 2003

"When Iraq is liberated, you will be treated, tried and persecuted as a war
criminal." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 22, 2003

"One year ago today, the time for excuse-making has come to an end." —George
W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 8, 2003