There’s “talk� of some steel plants reopening . One just announced 500 jobs. Sure that’s small but it’s a start.

On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 06:19:21 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

There’s “talk” of some steel plants reopening . One just announced 500 jobs. Sure that’s small but it’s a start.
I think it’s a push in the right direction and proves that there can be a reversal to bring work back to the US.

I’m for it...

Can't wait for Harry to comment on this. Probably complain that 'Trump steel' is weak stuff.

8:17 AMJohn H
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Can't wait for Harry to comment on this. Probably complain that 'Trump steel' is weak stuff.

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Or some kind of union snag hidden in there somewhere...

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 09:18:00 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 06:19:21 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

There’s “talk” of some steel plants reopening . One just announced 500 jobs. Sure that’s small but it’s a start.
I think it’s a push in the right direction and proves that there can be a reversal to bring work back to the US.

I’m for it...

Can't wait for Harry to comment on this. Probably complain that 'Trump steel' is weak stuff.


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It turns out that the US steel industry shot themselves in the foot by
not adopting new technology back in the 1950s while the rest of the
world was doing it - very similar to what happened to the US auto
industry back in the 1970s.

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Keyser Soze wrote:
Tim wrote:

8:17 AMJohn H
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Can't wait for Harry to comment on this. Probably complain that 'Trump
steel' is weak stuff.

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Or some kind of union snag hidden in there somewhere...


Corporations gave away our steel industry.


Bad decisions and the fact plentiful iron ore was used up. Also, the union
pay rates were very excessive for the education needed.

On 12 Mar 2018 17:03:37 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

Tim wrote:

8:17 AMJohn H
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Can't wait for Harry to comment on this. Probably complain that 'Trump
steel' is weak stuff.

...

Or some kind of union snag hidden in there somewhere...


Corporations gave away our steel industry.

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Are all corporations evil or just the ones you don't like?

US steel workers have always been highly unionized and well paid by
industry standards. That might have been just another bad management
decision.

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On 3/12/18 1:22 PM, wrote:
On 12 Mar 2018 17:03:37 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

Tim wrote:

8:17 AMJohn H
- show quoted text -
Can't wait for Harry to comment on this. Probably complain that 'Trump
steel' is weak stuff.

...

Or some kind of union snag hidden in there somewhere...


Corporations gave away our steel industry.

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Are all corporations evil or just the ones you don't like?

US steel workers have always been highly unionized and well paid by
industry standards. That might have been just another bad management
decision.

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The U.S. steel industry decided to let its industry head overseas by not
investing in new batch plants that made much better use of scrap and the
result of not investing properly also killed the ore and coal
industries. It wasn't as the developing technologies in making steel
snuck up on the U.S. industry.

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 16:44:51 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 3/12/18 1:22 PM, wrote:
On 12 Mar 2018 17:03:37 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

Tim wrote:

8:17 AMJohn H
- show quoted text -
Can't wait for Harry to comment on this. Probably complain that 'Trump
steel' is weak stuff.

...

Or some kind of union snag hidden in there somewhere...


Corporations gave away our steel industry.

===

Are all corporations evil or just the ones you don't like?

US steel workers have always been highly unionized and well paid by
industry standards. That might have been just another bad management
decision.



The U.S. steel industry decided to let its industry head overseas by not
investing in new batch plants that made much better use of scrap and the
result of not investing properly also killed the ore and coal
industries. It wasn't as the developing technologies in making steel
snuck up on the U.S. industry.

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The U.S. steel industry didn't decide to let its industry head
overseas anymore than the US auto industry decided to let Japan become
a major auto building power. In both cases it was a result of
inaction due to complacent, and somewhat arrogant management, resting
on the status quo.

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On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 13:05:53 -0400,
wrote:

It turns out that the US steel industry shot themselves in the foot by
not adopting new technology back in the 1950s while the rest of the
world was doing it - very similar to what happened to the US auto
industry back in the 1970s.


It did not help the advancement of labor saving technology if they
understood they still needed to employ the same number of people.

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 19:06:02 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 13:05:53 -0400,
wrote:

It turns out that the US steel industry shot themselves in the foot by
not adopting new technology back in the 1950s while the rest of the
world was doing it - very similar to what happened to the US auto
industry back in the 1970s.


It did not help the advancement of labor saving technology if they
understood they still needed to employ the same number of people.


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Certainly union agreements didn't help but It was more fundamental
than that:

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-03-05/steel-history-shows-how-america-lost-ground-to-europe

Better, cheaper technology became widely available but US steel
companies didn't invest in it for reasons that are not entirely clear.
The only exception was Nucor that continues to do well, even in the
face of foreign competition.

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