On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 12:17:20 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/31/2018 11:20 AM, Its Me wrote:
On Saturday, March 31, 2018 at 9:50:38 AM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/31/18 9:05 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Just been reading the various reviews on the 2018 Lincoln Navigator.

Ford pulled out all the stops and has blown the competition including
the* Cadillac Escalade and Infiniti QX80* away with this one.

3.5L twin turbo, 450hp, over 500 lb ft of torque, 10 speed transmission,
*6 adaptive performance settings, premier seating for all and an
interior fit and finish that is superior to any of it's competition.

Quite a price tag though.* Starts at $76K.* $96K typical.

Mrs.E. loves Navigators.* She has had three of them in the past.
Gotta keep her away from this one.





Heheh...what does that barge weigh, three tons?, and with a 3.5 liter
engine, the same size as in my little truck and a Toyota with V6? With
twin turbos? Not an engine that is going to last long, pushing an
aircraft carrier.

Oh, look... it's the jingle writer that thinks he's a mechanical engineer.



There's a bit of a difference between Harry's Tacoma 3.5L V6 and the
Navigator's 3.5L V6. The most important is torque. Harry has about 260
lb ft. The Navigator has over 500. That's as much and in some cases
*more* torque than many of the six cylinder diesels used in some pickups.


Had you already seen the CR review?

On 3/31/2018 1:01 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 12:17:20 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/31/2018 11:20 AM, Its Me wrote:
On Saturday, March 31, 2018 at 9:50:38 AM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/31/18 9:05 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Just been reading the various reviews on the 2018 Lincoln Navigator.

Ford pulled out all the stops and has blown the competition including
theÂ* Cadillac Escalade and Infiniti QX80Â* away with this one.

3.5L twin turbo, 450hp, over 500 lb ft of torque, 10 speed transmission,
Â*6 adaptive performance settings, premier seating for all and an
interior fit and finish that is superior to any of it's competition.

Quite a price tag though.Â* Starts at $76K.Â* $96K typical.

Mrs.E. loves Navigators.Â* She has had three of them in the past.
Gotta keep her away from this one.





Heheh...what does that barge weigh, three tons?, and with a 3.5 liter
engine, the same size as in my little truck and a Toyota with V6? With
twin turbos? Not an engine that is going to last long, pushing an
aircraft carrier.

Oh, look... it's the jingle writer that thinks he's a mechanical engineer.



There's a bit of a difference between Harry's Tacoma 3.5L V6 and the
Navigator's 3.5L V6. The most important is torque. Harry has about 260
lb ft. The Navigator has over 500. That's as much and in some cases
*more* torque than many of the six cylinder diesels used in some pickups.


Had you already seen the CR review?



I read the one you posted. The ones I read were from Car and Driver,
Motor Trend, Edmunds, etc. They had very little bad to say about it.
In fact, they really think Ford out did themselves on the 2018 model.

Got a kick out of the Car and Driver review. They tried to get a
2018 Cadillac Escalade to do a comparison test with the new Navigator.

When Cadillac found out what the comparison test would be between they
refused to provide an Escalade for the tests.

On Saturday, 31 March 2018 14:41:41 UTC-3, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/31/2018 1:01 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 12:17:20 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/31/2018 11:20 AM, Its Me wrote:
On Saturday, March 31, 2018 at 9:50:38 AM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/31/18 9:05 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Just been reading the various reviews on the 2018 Lincoln Navigator..

Ford pulled out all the stops and has blown the competition including
theÂ* Cadillac Escalade and Infiniti QX80Â* away with this one.

3.5L twin turbo, 450hp, over 500 lb ft of torque, 10 speed transmission,
Â*6 adaptive performance settings, premier seating for all and an
interior fit and finish that is superior to any of it's competition..

Quite a price tag though.Â* Starts at $76K.Â* $96K typical.

Mrs.E. loves Navigators.Â* She has had three of them in the past.

On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 13:41:34 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/31/2018 1:01 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 12:17:20 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/31/2018 11:20 AM, Its Me wrote:
On Saturday, March 31, 2018 at 9:50:38 AM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/31/18 9:05 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Just been reading the various reviews on the 2018 Lincoln Navigator.

Ford pulled out all the stops and has blown the competition including
the* Cadillac Escalade and Infiniti QX80* away with this one.

3.5L twin turbo, 450hp, over 500 lb ft of torque, 10 speed transmission,
*6 adaptive performance settings, premier seating for all and an
interior fit and finish that is superior to any of it's competition.

Quite a price tag though.* Starts at $76K.* $96K typical.

Mrs.E. loves Navigators.* She has had three of them in the past.
Gotta keep her away from this one.





Heheh...what does that barge weigh, three tons?, and with a 3.5 liter
engine, the same size as in my little truck and a Toyota with V6? With
twin turbos? Not an engine that is going to last long, pushing an
aircraft carrier.

Oh, look... it's the jingle writer that thinks he's a mechanical engineer.



There's a bit of a difference between Harry's Tacoma 3.5L V6 and the
Navigator's 3.5L V6. The most important is torque. Harry has about 260
lb ft. The Navigator has over 500. That's as much and in some cases
*more* torque than many of the six cylinder diesels used in some pickups.


Had you already seen the CR review?



I read the one you posted. The ones I read were from Car and Driver,
Motor Trend, Edmunds, etc. They had very little bad to say about it.
In fact, they really think Ford out did themselves on the 2018 model.

Got a kick out of the Car and Driver review. They tried to get a
2018 Cadillac Escalade to do a comparison test with the new Navigator.

When Cadillac found out what the comparison test would be between they
refused to provide an Escalade for the tests.



Cadillacs are not well thought of by CR.

On 31 Mar 2018 17:52:42 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 09:50:35 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 3/31/18 9:05 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Just been reading the various reviews on the 2018 Lincoln Navigator.

Ford pulled out all the stops and has blown the competition including
the* Cadillac Escalade and Infiniti QX80* away with this one.

3.5L twin turbo, 450hp, over 500 lb ft of torque, 10 speed transmission,
*6 adaptive performance settings, premier seating for all and an
interior fit and finish that is superior to any of it's competition.

Quite a price tag though.* Starts at $76K.* $96K typical.

Mrs.E. loves Navigators.* She has had three of them in the past.
Gotta keep her away from this one.





Heheh...what does that barge weigh, three tons?, and with a 3.5 liter
engine, the same size as in my little truck and a Toyota with V6? With
twin turbos? Not an engine that is going to last long, pushing an
aircraft carrier.

It does 0-60 in a little over 6 seconds. That doesn't seem to be
underpowered. I doubt Mrs E will keep it long enough to wear out the
engine.


I wasn’t questioning the horsepower output, but the wisdom of powering a
three ton car with a small engine.


Guess what, Krause - you're not qualified to question the wisdom.

Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 3/31/18 9:05 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Just been reading the various reviews on the 2018 Lincoln Navigator.

Ford pulled out all the stops and has blown the competition including
the Cadillac Escalade and Infiniti QX80 away with this one.

3.5L twin turbo, 450hp, over 500 lb ft of torque, 10 speed transmission,
6 adaptive performance settings, premier seating for all and an
interior fit and finish that is superior to any of it's competition.

Quite a price tag though. Starts at $76K. $96K typical.

Mrs.E. loves Navigators. She has had three of them in the past.
Gotta keep her away from this one.





Heheh...what does that barge weigh, three tons?, and with a 3.5 liter
engine, the same size as in my little truck and a Toyota with V6? With
twin turbos? Not an engine that is going to last long, pushing an
aircraft carrier.


Why would someone who can't afford one be concerned about the
weight and engine longevity.

Why would I want a whale of a car?

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On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 15:57:52 -0400, wrote:

On 31 Mar 2018 17:52:42 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 09:50:35 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 3/31/18 9:05 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Just been reading the various reviews on the 2018 Lincoln Navigator.

Ford pulled out all the stops and has blown the competition including
the* Cadillac Escalade and Infiniti QX80* away with this one.

3.5L twin turbo, 450hp, over 500 lb ft of torque, 10 speed transmission,
*6 adaptive performance settings, premier seating for all and an
interior fit and finish that is superior to any of it's competition.

Quite a price tag though.* Starts at $76K.* $96K typical.

Mrs.E. loves Navigators.* She has had three of them in the past.
Gotta keep her away from this one.





Heheh...what does that barge weigh, three tons?, and with a 3.5 liter
engine, the same size as in my little truck and a Toyota with V6? With
twin turbos? Not an engine that is going to last long, pushing an
aircraft carrier.

It does 0-60 in a little over 6 seconds. That doesn't seem to be
underpowered. I doubt Mrs E will keep it long enough to wear out the
engine.


I wasn’t questioning the horsepower output, but the wisdom of powering a
three ton car with a small engine.

Now you sound like those 60s-70s guys who said big block V-8s were the
only way to go.
If this thing performs well and lasts as long as he plans on keeping
it, why not.
My FIL went from a Northstar V-8 to a 2 liter turbo in his "always
red" CTsumpin Cadillac and he says he barely noticed the difference

Have you ever witnessed Harry *not* put down something someone else was buying?

On 3/31/18 3:57 PM, wrote:
On 31 Mar 2018 17:52:42 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 09:50:35 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 3/31/18 9:05 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Just been reading the various reviews on the 2018 Lincoln Navigator.

Ford pulled out all the stops and has blown the competition including
theÂ* Cadillac Escalade and Infiniti QX80Â* away with this one.

3.5L twin turbo, 450hp, over 500 lb ft of torque, 10 speed transmission,
Â*6 adaptive performance settings, premier seating for all and an
interior fit and finish that is superior to any of it's competition.

Quite a price tag though.Â* Starts at $76K.Â* $96K typical.

Mrs.E. loves Navigators.Â* She has had three of them in the past.
Gotta keep her away from this one.





Heheh...what does that barge weigh, three tons?, and with a 3.5 liter
engine, the same size as in my little truck and a Toyota with V6? With
twin turbos? Not an engine that is going to last long, pushing an
aircraft carrier.

It does 0-60 in a little over 6 seconds. That doesn't seem to be
underpowered. I doubt Mrs E will keep it long enough to wear out the
engine.


I wasn’t questioning the horsepower output, but the wisdom of powering a
three ton car with a small engine.

Now you sound like those 60s-70s guys who said big block V-8s were the
only way to go.
If this thing performs well and lasts as long as he plans on keeping
it, why not.
My FIL went from a Northstar V-8 to a 2 liter turbo in his "always
red" CTsumpin Cadillac and he says he barely noticed the difference


Yeah, I still believe if you have a big, heavy, car or truck, you want a
substantially sized engine in it. I was at first reluctant to buy a new
Toyota Tacoma because it only had a 3.5 liter engine, but it is a
relatively lightweight truck and I didn't plan on towing anything
heavier than a lawn/garden trailer, and that only occasionally. The six
speed manual tranny truck is certainly peppy enough, but I drive with a
light foot and to the best of my recollection, I've had the engine up
past 3000 rpms only once. Typically, I'm driving at around 2000 rpms for
60 - 65 mph. The state road limit around here is 50-55...and the county
mounties ain't reluctant to ticket you if you are more than 5 mph over
the posted limit.

On 3/31/2018 1:52 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 3/31/18 9:05 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Just been reading the various reviews on the 2018 Lincoln Navigator.

Ford pulled out all the stops and has blown the competition including
the Cadillac Escalade and Infiniti QX80 away with this one.

3.5L twin turbo, 450hp, over 500 lb ft of torque, 10 speed transmission,
6 adaptive performance settings, premier seating for all and an
interior fit and finish that is superior to any of it's competition.

Quite a price tag though. Starts at $76K. $96K typical.

Mrs.E. loves Navigators. She has had three of them in the past.
Gotta keep her away from this one.





Heheh...what does that barge weigh, three tons?, and with a 3.5 liter
engine, the same size as in my little truck and a Toyota with V6? With
twin turbos? Not an engine that is going to last long, pushing an
aircraft carrier.


Why would someone who can't afford one be concerned about the
weight and engine longevity.

Why would I want a whale of a car?



I don't. Mrs.E. is the one who likes them.

On 3/31/18 5:30 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/31/2018 1:52 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 3/31/18 9:05 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Just been reading the various reviews on the 2018 Lincoln Navigator.

Ford pulled out all the stops and has blown the competition including
theÂ* Cadillac Escalade and Infiniti QX80Â* away with this one.

3.5L twin turbo, 450hp, over 500 lb ft of torque, 10 speed
transmission,
6 adaptive performance settings, premier seating for all and an
interior fit and finish that is superior to any of it's competition.

Quite a price tag though.Â* Starts at $76K.Â* $96K typical.

Mrs.E. loves Navigators.Â* She has had three of them in the past.
Gotta keep her away from this one.





Heheh...what does that barge weigh, three tons?, and with a 3.5 liter
engine, the same size as in my little truck and a Toyota with V6? With
twin turbos? Not an engine that is going to last long, pushing an
aircraft carrier.


Why would someone who can't afford one be concerned about the
Â* weight and engine longevity.

Why would I want a whale of a car?



I don't.Â* Mrs.E. is the one who likes them.



Even with the visual aids, it must be a bitch to park that aircraft
carrier. I watched a video review of it, though...has a really nice
interior. It would be a nice car for a long trip on the Interstate...but
I really despise those sorts of long drives. Hell, five to five and a
half hours to New Haven or nine and a half hours to Hilton Head is the
limit of my tolerance for that sort of driving.