Just been reading the various reviews on the 2018 Lincoln Navigator.

Ford pulled out all the stops and has blown the competition including
the Cadillac Escalade and Infiniti QX80 away with this one.

3.5L twin turbo, 450hp, over 500 lb ft of torque, 10 speed transmission,
6 adaptive performance settings, premier seating for all and an
interior fit and finish that is superior to any of it's competition.

Quite a price tag though. Starts at $76K. $96K typical.

Mrs.E. loves Navigators. She has had three of them in the past.
Gotta keep her away from this one.

On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 09:05:06 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


Just been reading the various reviews on the 2018 Lincoln Navigator.

Ford pulled out all the stops and has blown the competition including
the Cadillac Escalade and Infiniti QX80 away with this one.

3.5L twin turbo, 450hp, over 500 lb ft of torque, 10 speed transmission,
6 adaptive performance settings, premier seating for all and an
interior fit and finish that is superior to any of it's competition.

Quite a price tag though. Starts at $76K. $96K typical.

Mrs.E. loves Navigators. She has had three of them in the past.
Gotta keep her away from this one.



Here's what Consumer Reports has to say:

The redesigned Navigator differentiates itself from its Ford Expedition sibling by piling on the
luxury touches on this almost $90,000 behemoth. This hulking SUV can accommodate up to eight people,
although it’s so large it’s probably overkill for most buyers -- unless they need to tow upwards of
four tons. While the Navigator pampers occupants with power everything and a rich interior ambience,
there are some deficiencies that detract from a great experience.

A 3.5-liter V6 turbo makes a healthy 411 horsepower on regular fuel, and it’s mated to a mostly
smooth 10-speed automatic transmission. (Lincoln says the engine makes 450 hp when premium fuel is
used.) That abundant power scooted our four-wheel-drive Navigator to 60 mph in just 6.2 seconds. Its
16 mpg overall is on par with similar large SUVs, but that's nothing to write home about.

The continuously adjustable suspension handles bumps quite well, but the handling feels floaty and
disconnected in turns. The SUV’s imposing width means drivers need to take extra care on narrow
streets or bridges, lest a side mirror get lopped off.

Passengers climbing up into this rig are helped by powered running boards that help immensely in
climbing up or descending from the Navigator’s seats, given how tall the vehicle sits. Those running
boards greet occupants automatically upon approach (or exit), then retract back into the body.

The opulent cabin is full of leather, wood, and chrome. We found the modern-looking front seats
uncomfortable. Many testers complained about the short bottom cushion, others said the seat created
painful pressure points on long journeys. The optional Perfect Position 30-way seat option adds more
adjustments and a massage feature. But at this price, we expect a perfect seat from the get-go. At
least the second-row captain’s chairs are large and accommodating, with seat heating and individual
USB ports. Even the third row is spacious enough for adults. It has convenient power-folding
operation, controlled by buttons in the cargo bay.

Beginning any trip in the Navigator requires fiddling with the electronic gear selector, an
unintuitive row of chrome buttons on the center dash. It requires the driver to make a long reach,
carefully decipher the buttons, and they’ll need the dexterity of a pianist. This unconventional
gear selector proved to be a real pain when parking. Most other controls are easy to use, including
the vivid and responsive Sync 3 infotainment system.

One reason to buy the Navigator is its impressive, four-ton tow rating. The optional heavy-duty
towing package includes a feature that simplifies backing up with a trailer, allowing the driver to
direct the vehicle with a knob while the SUV uses the automated parking ability and rearview camera
to take care of the actual steering.

Forward-collision warning and automatic emergency braking are not offered on the base trim, and they
are optional on the Reserve and Select. It is odd for these important systems are not standard on a
vehicle that starts at more than $72,000).

Driving Experience
Handling

The Navigator is clumsy through corners. It feels floaty and disconnected. Every kink or curve
requires deliberate slowing, along with plenty of steering-wheel twirling. It has pronounced body
lean, and the steering is light but vague.

The Navigator was clearly out its element around CR’s test track, invoking references to a roly-poly
toy. Its stability control kicked in aggressively and early to keep the luxury liner on its intended
course. It posted a modest 47 mph through our avoidance maneuver, but remained under control.

Powertrain

The turbo V6 engine and 10-speed automatic do a commendable job of making the Navigator feel
effortless and punchy. Even a small push on the gas pedal results in decisive forward thrust. While
the engine is rated at 450 hp on premium fuel, the manufacturer doesn’t require its use. Output
using regular fuel is 411 hp, which is the grade of fuel we used for testing. Regardless, the power
difference is of little consequence in the real world, as those horsepower numbers are measured at a
high rpm. Even on regular gas, the Navigator leapt to 60 mph in just 6.2 seconds in our testing --
an impressive number considering its size and weight.

Towing

When equipped with the heavy-duty towing package the Navigator can tow up to 8,300 pounds.

Off-road

Despite low-range gearing, the Navigator is not designed for serious off-roading because of its low
front valance, 22-inch wheels, and low-profile tires that are prone to damage.

Ride comfort

The Navigator’s body rocks back and forth noticeably at low speeds, but once past 25 mph or so the
Lincoln settles down as its automatically adjustable suspension keeps it composed. Even though it
rides on mammoth 22-inch tires, bump absorption is quite good.

Noise

The vast cabin is very quiet. There’s hardly a trace of any road or wind noise, and the turbo V6
engine sounds sedate and relaxed compared to the brawny V8 growl of the competing Cadillac Escalade.

Braking

The Navigator turned in a disappointing braking performance, with long stops under both wet and dry
conditions. The brake pedal was a bit spongy and had a lot of travel, both of which take away some
driver confidence in its stopping abilities.

Headlights

The standard LED headlights are bright and do a very good job of lighting up the road ahead.
Automatic on/off high beams are an option on top trims, which can help drivers take advantage of the
added high beam light more often since it turns them on and off for you as needed.

Inside The Cabin
Interior fit and finish

The Navigator’s cabin exudes an elegant air, with opulent leather and wood trim; chrome; a beautiful
infotainment display; and a big instrument panel in front of the driver.

A large panel of wood trim across the dashboard makes the Navigator feel special, along with
numerous padded sections. The entire door, for instance, is a combination of soft-touch, wood,
chrome, or glossy black trim. The glove box is lined with felt, as are some cubbies and the center
armrest bin. The twin center armrests have a bit of a cheap-feeling opening mechanism, though, one
of the few weak points inside the vehicle.

Controls throughout the Navigator have a nice look and feel, including the window switches, chrome
knobs, steering wheel buttons and rocker switches, and even the steering column stalks.

The front- and second-row seats are covered with supple, perforated leather, but Lincoln skipped the
perforation in the third row. The headliner is nice, but at this price point a more premium material
is expected, such as some suede or Alcantara.

Driving position

There’s plenty of room everywhere in the Navigator, including headroom, elbow room, a good left
footrest position, and even lots of right knee room for the driver. If a tall driver finds their
knee brushing against the center console, the sides are covered with padded leather. The
power-adjustable steering wheel and pedals help drivers of all sizes find the optimum position. The
high seating position allows the driver to see far out over the hood.

Visibility

Considering how enormous the Navigator is, the front and side views are actually pretty good -- even
with its thick windshield pillars, large mirrors, and bulky side pillars. Huge side windows help the
view a lot. The rear window is wide but not all that tall. The third-row headrests, when dropped,
don’t hurt visibility.

All Navigators come standard with rear parking sensors -- a welcome feature when trying to maneuver
such a big truck into a tight spot. Blind-spot warning also comes standard across the board. A handy
360-degree, bird’s-eye-view camera system comes on the second-tier Select trim and up.

Seat comfort and access

The Navigator has retracting running boards that come down as the driver approaches the vehicle,
responding to the key fob. These running boards help immensely considering the vehicle’s height. The
door openings are huge and there is plenty of room to climb in.

We found the front seats’ bottom cushion too short to give optimal thigh support and because the
front edge can’t be adjusted up or down, it can create uncomfortable pressure points for shorter
drivers. These fancy-looking seats appear to be highly adjustable but are not -- the two-way lumbar
adjustment on the standard 10-way power seat is disappointing in such an expensive vehicle, given
that some cars at half the price have four-way adjustment. Buyers have to opt for the 24-way
(standard on Reserve trim) or the 30-way seat options if they want to improve seat comfort. (Or buy
the similar, less-expensive Ford Expedition.)

Accessing the second row is much like getting in the front -- using the retractable running boards
eases the entry. Door openings are large and there is plenty of floor space. The second-row
captain’s chairs are firm and very comfortable, slide fore/aft and recline, and there’s lots of room
all around. Getting into the third row is also fairly easy -- a one-handed flip of a lever on the
second-row seat slides it up and out of the way, creating a decent pathway, even for adults. The
seat is flat and hard, but wide enough for two or three adults. Taller passengers will find knee and
footroom a little snug once the second row is put back into place, but kids should have more than
enough space.

Controls and displays

The most off-putting part about the Navigator’s controls is the unintuitive gear selector setup; it
requires deciphering before deciding which button to push. Even after becoming familiar with how it
works, it can be very frustrating, particularly during parking maneuvers that require going back and
forth between Reverse and Drive. The start button is also a reach for drivers, and its odd,
high-and-away placement often led drivers to mistake the trailer assist knob for the starter button.
A confusing layout of controls on the door caused us to occasionally fold the outside mirrors when
we were attempting to adjust them.

A tablet-like 10-inch touch screen is perched on the dash, serving as the main gateway for audio,
phone, navigation, and other features. The large screen benefits from easy-to-read text and a clear
task bar for audio, phone, and navigation. The instrument panel cluster can be customized to display
trip, fuel economy, trailer information, and phone tasks while using steering wheel shortcuts. The
optional head-up display shows speed, temperature, fuel, and adaptive cruise control and
lane-keeping information directly in front of the driver.

Audio system

The base system comes with a large, 10-inch Sync 3 touch screen and a 14-speaker audio system. It
supports Android Auto and Apple CarPlay, as well as AppLink capability. Lincoln Connect telematics
with WiFi hotspot capability is also standard. A 20-speaker audio system is available for the
Reserve and standard on the Black Label.

Navigation

Lincoln supports the popular Waze app with Apple iOS through AppLink. The standard built-in
navigation system works well. It conveniently displays key information on the home screen in
addition to the dedicated map screen. Satellite traffic service is free for five years, providing
live traffic updates and rerouting options based on current traffic conditions.

Phone

Paired phones can be controlled using steering wheel controls, with the corresponding action
displayed in the instrument cluster, momentarily minimizing other gauges to help minimize
distraction.

Connectivity

A CD player is optional. Two USB ports and a wireless charging pad come standard up front, along
with two charge-only ports for the second and third rows. Lincoln Connect telematics provides
emergency crash notification, remote lock/unlock/start via a smartphone app, and tracking of the
vehicle’s location and status.

Kid-friendly features

The optional second-row entertainment system consists of two 10-inch touch screens. Each can be
connected to a smartphone wirelessly or play media through an SD card, HDMI port, or a USB port.
Those who own a Slingbox can watch their TV channels on the go.

Climate features

As is the case with most premium-priced SUVs, the Navigator (particularly with the second-tier
Select trim and above) comes packed to the gills with standard climate features, such as a dual-zone
automatic system up front, heated steering wheel and front seats, and a full-featured rear
climate-control system with heated rear seats. Interestingly, the premium-level Ford Expedition Max
Limited costs about $11,000 less than our Navigator but came with cooled/vented front seats, which
our Lincoln lacks.

Cabin storage

Just below the center console is a series of large open trays that can handle tablets, phones, and
purses. There’s also a deep covered storage bin under the padded armrest between the seats.

Cup holders

Front passengers get two cup holders in the center console. Second-row seaters can use two cup
holders that pop out of the bottom of the center console. Those back in the third row have cup
holders built into the outboard elbow rests. All four doors have built-in bottle holders.

Cargo area

There’s an abundance of cargo- and people-hauling versatility on hand. A powered hands-free liftgate
is standard. If drivers (or passengers) have the key fob on them, a kicking motion under the center
of the rear bumper powers open the liftgate -- a big help when hands are full.

Even when all the seats are occupied there is still enough room behind the third row for a few
duffle bags, and there is a small storage area under the cargo floor. Buttons in the cargo area
power the second- and third-row seats down flat, making the Navigator a great large-item hauler. The
cargo floor is pretty high, though.

The power liftgate can be adjusted to accommodate different garage heights. The glass section of the
liftgate can open alone, which may help with hauling long items.

Spare tire

A full-size temporary spare tire is standard across all trims. The spare tire size is dissimilar to
the vehicle’s tire size, though, and therefore is only meant to be used for a short time.

Safety & Driver Assist Systems
Crash-test results

Neither NHTSA nor the IIHS have crashed tested the Navigator.

Crash-avoidance systems

Blind-spot warning with rear cross-traffic warning is standard across all trims. An optional package
is required to get forward-collision warning, automatic emergency braking, and lane-keeping assist.

Forward-collision warning and automatic emergency braking with pedestrian detection -- These systems
help reduce the likelihood and severity of frontal crashes and are active above 3 mph, with the
ability to detect pedestrians up to 50 mph. The system has three levels At the first sign of a
collision it alerts the driver with visual and audible warnings. Next, it pre-charges the brakes. If
no action is taken by the driver, the final step is automatic emergency braking.

Blind-spot warning -- This system alerts the driver to vehicles in an adjacent lane that may be
difficult to see. A yellow dot in the outside mirror lights up if a car is detected alongside. The
dot will start flashing if attempting to merge into an adjacent lane and a vehicle is detected.

Rear-cross traffic warning -- When in Reverse, it will sound an audible alert along with a message
in front of the driver indicating whether the vehicle is approaching from the right or left of the
rear of the vehicle.

Lane-keeping assist -- The system works above 40 mph and can be set up as an alert, a lane-keeping
aid, or both. The alert comes as a steering vibration as the vehicle leaves its lane. The aid
setting will apply slight steering correction to keep the vehicle in its current lane.

Child safety

Wide belt anchor spacing makes some car seat installations extremely challenging to get a secure
fit. Lower LATCH anchors in the second-row captain’s chairs are hidden behind stiff cushions, making
them more difficult to access than in the third row, where the anchors are more exposed. Rear-facing
infant seats can fit in the third row if the second row is locked in its forward or mid-track
positions. Rear head restraints in the second row may need to be removed for boosters to sit flush
against the seatback.

Warranty
All cars come with basic warranty coverage, also known as a bumper-to-bumper warranty. This protects
consumers against unexpected problems with non-wear items. Powertrain warranty protects against
engine and transmission troubles. Rust through, or corrosion warranty, covers rust to non-damaged
components. Roadside aid provides on-location assistance in case of a breakdown and may include
limited towing services.

Extended warranties provide peace of mind. Owners of models known to have worse-than-average
predicted reliability can mitigate risks with an extended warranty. Generally, we recommend buying a
model with better-than-average reliability and skipping this expensive add on. If you do buy an
extended warranty, it is key to read the small print to understand what is covered and where you can
bring the car for repairs.

Basic (years/miles) 4/50,000
Powertrain (years/miles) 6/70,000
Rust through (years/miles) 5/unlimited
Roadside aid (years/miles) 6/70,000

Wow John. Look at the length of that cut n paste? You trying to out do Harry? Lol!!

On 3/31/18 9:05 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Just been reading the various reviews on the 2018 Lincoln Navigator.

Ford pulled out all the stops and has blown the competition including
theÂ* Cadillac Escalade and Infiniti QX80Â* away with this one.

3.5L twin turbo, 450hp, over 500 lb ft of torque, 10 speed transmission,
Â*6 adaptive performance settings, premier seating for all and an
interior fit and finish that is superior to any of it's competition.

Quite a price tag though.Â* Starts at $76K.Â* $96K typical.

Mrs.E. loves Navigators.Â* She has had three of them in the past.
Gotta keep her away from this one.





Heheh...what does that barge weigh, three tons?, and with a 3.5 liter
engine, the same size as in my little truck and a Toyota with V6? With
twin turbos? Not an engine that is going to last long, pushing an
aircraft carrier.

On 3/31/18 9:47 AM, Tim wrote:
Wow John. Look at the length of that cut n paste? You trying to out do Harry? Lol!!



It's the "lol" guy...d'uh.

8:50 AMKeyser Soze
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Heheh...what does that barge weigh, three tons?, and with a 3.5 liter
engine, the same size as in my little truck and a Toyota with V6? With
twin turbos? Not an engine that is going to last long, pushing an
aircraft carrier.
,,,
It's the "d’uh" guy...lol.

On Saturday, March 31, 2018 at 9:50:38 AM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/31/18 9:05 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Just been reading the various reviews on the 2018 Lincoln Navigator.

Ford pulled out all the stops and has blown the competition including
theÂ* Cadillac Escalade and Infiniti QX80Â* away with this one.

3.5L twin turbo, 450hp, over 500 lb ft of torque, 10 speed transmission,
Â*6 adaptive performance settings, premier seating for all and an
interior fit and finish that is superior to any of it's competition.

Quite a price tag though.Â* Starts at $76K.Â* $96K typical.

Mrs.E. loves Navigators.Â* She has had three of them in the past.
Gotta keep her away from this one.





Heheh...what does that barge weigh, three tons?, and with a 3.5 liter
engine, the same size as in my little truck and a Toyota with V6? With
twin turbos? Not an engine that is going to last long, pushing an
aircraft carrier.

Oh, look... it's the jingle writer that thinks he's a mechanical engineer.

On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 06:47:13 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

Wow John. Look at the length of that cut n paste? You trying to out do Harry? Lol!!

I just hope I didn't offend anyone with all the political horse**** therein!

"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:

Just been reading the various reviews on the 2018 Lincoln Navigator.

Ford pulled out all the stops and has blown the competition including
the Cadillac Escalade and Infiniti QX80 away with this one.

3.5L twin turbo, 450hp, over 500 lb ft of torque, 10 speed transmission,
6 adaptive performance settings, premier seating for all and an
interior fit and finish that is superior to any of it's competition.

Quite a price tag though. Starts at $76K. $96K typical.

Mrs.E. loves Navigators. She has had three of them in the past.
Gotta keep her away from this one.





Until she can see out the back of one.
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Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 3/31/18 9:47 AM, Tim wrote:
Wow John. Look at the length of that cut n paste? You trying to out do Harry? Lol!!



It's the "lol" guy...d'uh.


It's the d'uh guy... snerk
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