On Tue, 29 May 2018 16:26:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 5/29/2018 4:11 PM, John H. wrote:

On Tue, 29 May 2018 11:36:35 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

https://www.umcor.org/UMCOR/Programs...aster-Response


I’ve been keeping my eye open through the United Methodist relief organization. And their standby efforts to support the local churches who will be dealing with helping flood victims in that area. I support them financially, but I won’t be going out there, but I have been to local tornado disasters, S. Illinois floods, and even
a week helping during Katrina.

I’m sure they could use a hand. Hey Harry, you going?

You should...

Ellicott City got eaten alive with this latest flood.

Harry wouldn't support anything like this. He'd be accusing the aid workers of proselytizing. Always
an excuse from the boy.

Charity Navigator gives UMCOR four stars, their highest rating. Good enough for me.


That flooding was unreal. I don't quite understand how so much water
came through the town all at once. I viewed the Ellicott City area on
Google Earth and didn't see any major rivers or bodies of water nearby.
The topography didn't seem unusual.

The Patapsco River runs through there and it is pretty flat so when
the river goes over the banks, there is not much to stop it.

On 5/29/2018 5:25 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2018 17:02:43 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/29/2018 4:51 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2018 16:26:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/29/2018 4:11 PM, John H. wrote:

On Tue, 29 May 2018 11:36:35 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

https://www.umcor.org/UMCOR/Programs...aster-Response


I’ve been keeping my eye open through the United Methodist relief organization. And their standby efforts to support the local churches who will be dealing with helping flood victims in that area. I support them financially, but I won’t be going out there, but I have been to local tornado disasters, S. Illinois floods, and even a week helping during Katrina.

I’m sure they could use a hand. Hey Harry, you going?

You should...

Ellicott City got eaten alive with this latest flood.

Harry wouldn't support anything like this. He'd be accusing the aid workers of proselytizing. Always
an excuse from the boy.

Charity Navigator gives UMCOR four stars, their highest rating. Good enough for me.


That flooding was unreal. I don't quite understand how so much water
came through the town all at once. I viewed the Ellicott City area on
Google Earth and didn't see any major rivers or bodies of water nearby.
The topography didn't seem unusual.

Ellicott City had had almost a month of heavy rain. Ground was saturated. The town also sits at the
bottom of a topographical funnel, at the confluence of several streams feeding the Patapsco River.
Add to that acres and acres of impervious land surface: blacktop, concrete, rooftops,
channelization, developed areas around the rim of the funnel. Add over 8 inches of water in a short
time, and the result is what happened in Ellicott City.

(Much came from the Washington Post Express, but I couldn't find the article online.)


Makes sense. It was hard to get a sense of the topography on Google
Earth, even in the 3D view.


Go here and zoom in on Ellicott City (ESE of Baltimore). Use the +/- symbols in lower right hand
corner of map. You'll see the topography then.

https://www.topozone.com/maryland/


Thanks. That worked.

3:11 PMJohn H
- show quoted text -
Ellicott City got eaten alive with this latest flood.

Harry wouldn't support anything like this. He'd be accusing the aid workers of proselytizing. Always
an excuse from the boy.

Charity Navigator gives UMCOR four stars, their highest rating. Good enough for me.
..........


The 4star management is one reason I support them. They do tremendous world wide work and also do training for others in case emergencies are in their local area.

They thrive on efficiency.

In a reverse policy decision, FEMA is now allowed to use church’s for local distribution management.

https://www.sasse.senate.gov/public/...1-3AA8276B2D7D

On Tue, 29 May 2018 18:08:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 5/29/2018 5:25 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2018 17:02:43 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/29/2018 4:51 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2018 16:26:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/29/2018 4:11 PM, John H. wrote:

On Tue, 29 May 2018 11:36:35 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

https://www.umcor.org/UMCOR/Programs...aster-Response


I’ve been keeping my eye open through the United Methodist relief organization. And their standby efforts to support the local churches who will be dealing with helping flood victims in that area. I support them financially, but I won’t be going out there, but I have been to local tornado disasters, S. Illinois floods, and
even a week helping during Katrina.

I’m sure they could use a hand. Hey Harry, you going?

You should...

Ellicott City got eaten alive with this latest flood.

Harry wouldn't support anything like this. He'd be accusing the aid workers of proselytizing. Always
an excuse from the boy.

Charity Navigator gives UMCOR four stars, their highest rating. Good enough for me.


That flooding was unreal. I don't quite understand how so much water
came through the town all at once. I viewed the Ellicott City area on
Google Earth and didn't see any major rivers or bodies of water nearby.
The topography didn't seem unusual.

Ellicott City had had almost a month of heavy rain. Ground was saturated. The town also sits at the
bottom of a topographical funnel, at the confluence of several streams feeding the Patapsco River.
Add to that acres and acres of impervious land surface: blacktop, concrete, rooftops,
channelization, developed areas around the rim of the funnel. Add over 8 inches of water in a short
time, and the result is what happened in Ellicott City.

(Much came from the Washington Post Express, but I couldn't find the article online.)


Makes sense. It was hard to get a sense of the topography on Google
Earth, even in the 3D view.


Go here and zoom in on Ellicott City (ESE of Baltimore). Use the +/- symbols in lower right hand
corner of map. You'll see the topography then.

https://www.topozone.com/maryland/


Thanks. That worked.

I seem to remember Ellicott City flooding from time to time, most of
my life. Maybe it is time they tried to do some serious mitigation. I
suppose as long as flood insurance keeps bailing them out, why bother?

On Tue, 29 May 2018 20:39:15 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 29 May 2018 18:08:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 5/29/2018 5:25 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2018 17:02:43 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/29/2018 4:51 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2018 16:26:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/29/2018 4:11 PM, John H. wrote:

On Tue, 29 May 2018 11:36:35 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

https://www.umcor.org/UMCOR/Programs...aster-Response


I’ve been keeping my eye open through the United Methodist relief organization. And their standby efforts to support the local churches who will be dealing with helping flood victims in that area. I support them financially, but I won’t be going out there, but I have been to local tornado disasters, S. Illinois floods, and
even a week helping during Katrina.

I’m sure they could use a hand. Hey Harry, you going?

You should...

Ellicott City got eaten alive with this latest flood.

Harry wouldn't support anything like this. He'd be accusing the aid workers of proselytizing. Always
an excuse from the boy.

Charity Navigator gives UMCOR four stars, their highest rating. Good enough for me.


That flooding was unreal. I don't quite understand how so much water
came through the town all at once. I viewed the Ellicott City area on
Google Earth and didn't see any major rivers or bodies of water nearby.
The topography didn't seem unusual.

Ellicott City had had almost a month of heavy rain. Ground was saturated. The town also sits at the
bottom of a topographical funnel, at the confluence of several streams feeding the Patapsco River.
Add to that acres and acres of impervious land surface: blacktop, concrete, rooftops,
channelization, developed areas around the rim of the funnel. Add over 8 inches of water in a short
time, and the result is what happened in Ellicott City.

(Much came from the Washington Post Express, but I couldn't find the article online.)


Makes sense. It was hard to get a sense of the topography on Google
Earth, even in the 3D view.


Go here and zoom in on Ellicott City (ESE of Baltimore). Use the +/- symbols in lower right hand
corner of map. You'll see the topography then.

https://www.topozone.com/maryland/


Thanks. That worked.

I seem to remember Ellicott City flooding from time to time, most of
my life. Maybe it is time they tried to do some serious mitigation. I
suppose as long as flood insurance keeps bailing them out, why bother?

They started a flood mitigation project after the last flood. It was only about 30% complete when
this one hit.