On 6/12/18 7:03 AM, Tim wrote:

5:54 AMKeyser Soze
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Y-A-W-N. Brain sturgeons like you and your malooks here might want to
stick to disliking sarcastic comics like Andy Borowitz, who aren't as
cerebral or biting as Maher.

Maher *would not* want "to throw millions of people into unemployment
and poverty..."

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Big Blue Brady
@kbrady56
Bill Maher makes thousands of dollars and is hoping for a recession so @POTUS will not be re-elected. Isn’t he proud of his stupidity! While he will still make his money many Americans will lose their jobs and Retirement, way to go Democrats!
2:26 PM - Jun 9, 2018
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Democrats for Trump
@YoungDems4Trump
Shocking but not surprising. Bill Maher just said he “hopes for a recession� just so we could try and “get rid of Trump“. Unreal. The Left is showing it’s true colors. They’d rather America suffer just as long as they regain power. Pathetic. Disgraceful. Disturbing.
11:16 AM - Jun 9, 2018

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Sara
@TessaS2000
Hey Bill Maher, my family lost everything in the last recession. Rooting for a collapse that wouldn’t impact you and your rich friends isn’t funny. @billmaher
8:18 AM - Jun 9, 2018
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Nobody’s laughing but you, Harry


Yeah, as usual, you are aligned with political morons.

6:02 AMJohn H
On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 06:33:44 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 6/11/18 11:43 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 17:33:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 15:09:48 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:
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Anyone who is rooting for a recession just to punish the sitting
president deserves a little dislike. I assume you are in his camp
saying **** the working man, I have mine.

.........

Maher was really lame in this one. He sounds really desperate to me...

The left is scared to death that Trump will be successful, to the
point that they are wishing for a disaster they can pin on him.



Trump is very successful kissing the ass of murderous dictators, but he
doesn't seem to be able to get along with the leaders of western
democracies. North Korean specializes in prison, torture, executions,
and starvation of its own people, but Trump thinks Kim is someone to
admire.

You forgot the construction of nukes and missiles capable of hitting the US..


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If trump can break all that down the media still won’t give him credit for it.

On 6/12/18 7:10 AM, Tim wrote:

6:02 AMJohn H
On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 06:33:44 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 6/11/18 11:43 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 17:33:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 15:09:48 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:
- show quoted text -
Anyone who is rooting for a recession just to punish the sitting
president deserves a little dislike. I assume you are in his camp
saying **** the working man, I have mine.

.........

Maher was really lame in this one. He sounds really desperate to me...

The left is scared to death that Trump will be successful, to the
point that they are wishing for a disaster they can pin on him.



Trump is very successful kissing the ass of murderous dictators, but he
doesn't seem to be able to get along with the leaders of western
democracies. North Korean specializes in prison, torture, executions,
and starvation of its own people, but Trump thinks Kim is someone to
admire.

You forgot the construction of nukes and missiles capable of hitting the US.


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If trump can break all that down the media still won’t give him credit for it.


Oh, I guess I missed that in the communique...so, North Korea gave up
its nukes, is taking down its facilities to build them, and is allowing
full access to UN inspectors? Damn! All that to get a Trump Tower and
Golf Course there, of course.

On 6/12/2018 6:33 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/11/18 11:43 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 17:33:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 15:09:48 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:
- show quoted text -
Anyone who is rooting for a recession just to punish the sitting
president deserves a little dislike. I assume you are in his camp
saying **** the working man, I have mine.

.........

Maher was really lame in this one.Â* He sounds really desperate to me...

The left is scared to death that Trump will be successful, to the
point that they are wishing for a disaster they can pin on him.



Trump is very successful kissing the ass of murderous dictators, but he
doesn't seem to be able to get along with the leaders of western
democracies. North Korean specializes in prison, torture, executions,
and starvation of its own people, but Trump thinks Kim is someone to
admire.


Trump is focusing on the future, not the past.

The immediate media reactions to the summit meeting is extremely
interesting to me. I am far from being an expert in these matters but
one thing really struck me based on my limited experience in
business meetings and/or negotiations with representatives with some
Asian companies.

Watching MSNBC this morning, all the discussion is about how "loose"
and undefined the agreement Trump and Kim Jong Un signed. They
are focusing on the lack of specifics and timing of North Korea's
actions, dissecting the agreement.

Americans tend to want to get right down to the nuts and bolts of a
contract and hammer out all the terms and conditions so they can be
documented in a legal document in the form of a contract, and the
faster it can be done, the better.

The culture in Asian countries ... and my experience is limited to
Japan and China ... is very different. Much more time is spent
initially in getting to know each other down to some of the personal
and family aspects of the people involved in the project. I remember
back in the early 80's the company I worked for at the time was
entering into a major contract with a company in Japan. The Japanese
company (Ricoh) sent a delegation of engineering types, project managers
and contract specialists to spend a week at the company I worked at
to work out the contract. The owner of my company hired a consultant
to come in and brief all of us who would be involved in the discussions
regarding how the Japanese business culture worked and what to expect.

The meetings went exactly as he described with pretty much the whole
first day being spent on who we all were, our families, our hobbies
and personal interests, etc. Not a peep about the project until after
a day or more of personal interaction, dinners and social meetings
in the evenings. Only after all that did we get down to discussing
the project.

It was a very similar experience when I went to China in 1986. Met
with several companies representing different industries over the
course of a week and a half. Very little was discussed about specific
applications for the technology my company represented. It was more
of a personal "interview" and, in the case of China, was very
ceremonial. Local political leaders often attended the meetings
and much time was spent with them honoring their "guests" (me and
another guy who went with me) at nightly banquets given in our honor.

It was only after all this personal and ceremonial meetings that we
actually got down to discussing the technical and contractual issues.
The purpose, I've been told, is to develop mutual respect and trust so
that in the execution of the contract, details that were not documented
or overlooked could be worked out in a trusting and mutually respectful
manner.

I don't know if the North Korean culture is similar (or even if it
still exists in Japan and China anymore) but if so, I can understand
how Trump is approaching this. It's too complicated to document every
single nut and bolt of the intention of an agreement. Plus, the
"contract" hasn't even been developed yet.

The MSNBC folks are thinking like typical American business people
and (predictably) are being very critical of the very early discussions
Trump and Kim Jong Un had as if they were supposed to work out every
nut and bolt.

6:09 AMKeyser Soze
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Yeah, as usual, you are aligned with political morons.

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Thanks for the compliment Harry.

On 6/12/18 7:21 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/12/2018 6:33 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/11/18 11:43 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 17:33:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 15:09:48 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:
- show quoted text -
Anyone who is rooting for a recession just to punish the sitting
president deserves a little dislike. I assume you are in his camp
saying **** the working man, I have mine.

.........

Maher was really lame in this one.Â* He sounds really desperate to me...

The left is scared to death that Trump will be successful, to the
point that they are wishing for a disaster they can pin on him.



Trump is very successful kissing the ass of murderous dictators, but
he doesn't seem to be able to get along with the leaders of western
democracies. North Korean specializes in prison, torture, executions,
and starvation of its own people, but Trump thinks Kim is someone to
admire.


Trump is focusing on the future, not the past.


The MSNBC folks are thinking like typical American business people
and (predictably) are being very critical of the very early discussions
Trump and Kim Jong Un had as if they were supposed to work out every
nut and bolt.



The quotes I heard from the joint statement indicated they worked out
nothing at all. I suppose it is both ironic and telling that Trump can't
get along with our long-time allies but admires Kim Jung Un. Here's
something for Trump to consider...he'll get nowhere with the North
Koreans without the help of our allies.

But, isn't it great Trump is ****ting on Canada? USA USA USA.

6:15 AMKeyser Soze
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Oh, I guess I missed that in the communique...so, North Korea gave up
its nukes, is taking down its facilities to build them, and is allowing
full access to UN inspectors? Damn! All that to get a Trump Tower and
Golf Course there, of course.

...........

You missed what I said because you have your head stuck somewhere. I was saying that if trump pulls it off the media still won’t give him (to your delight) any credit fir it.

On 6/12/18 7:30 AM, Tim wrote:

6:09 AMKeyser Soze
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Yeah, as usual, you are aligned with political morons.

.......

Thanks for the compliment Harry.


Your morons complement you, and vice versa.

On 6/12/18 7:35 AM, Tim wrote:

6:15 AMKeyser Soze
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Oh, I guess I missed that in the communique...so, North Korea gave up
its nukes, is taking down its facilities to build them, and is allowing
full access to UN inspectors? Damn! All that to get a Trump Tower and
Golf Course there, of course.

..........

You missed what I said because you have your head stuck somewhere. I was saying that if trump pulls it off the media still won’t give him (to your delight) any credit fir it.



Pulls off what, exactly, Timmy? Trump gave up military exercises and got
nothing in return.

On 6/12/2018 6:33 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/11/18 11:43 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 17:33:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 15:09:48 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:
- show quoted text -
Anyone who is rooting for a recession just to punish the sitting
president deserves a little dislike. I assume you are in his camp
saying **** the working man, I have mine.

.........

Maher was really lame in this one.Â* He sounds really desperate to me...

The left is scared to death that Trump will be successful, to the
point that they are wishing for a disaster they can pin on him.



Trump is very successful kissing the ass of murderous dictators, but he
doesn't seem to be able to get along with the leaders of western
democracies. North Korean specializes in prison, torture, executions,
and starvation of its own people, but Trump thinks Kim is someone to
admire.

It's interesting that as a progressive liberal who believes in social
and cultural changes "for the betterment of the people" that you
immediately jump to a same old, same old argument when it comes
to Kim.

First of all, even as a dictator, Kim does not have complete control
of North Korea. He has military leaders who are devoted to the
politics of Kim's father and grandfather before him and they represent
a threat to his control and authority, especially if he begins to
entertain new ideas. Even very recently Kim fired three of his
top military types presumably because they opposed of his meeting
with Trump, his release of the three hostages and the halting of
nuclear and missile testing.

I tend to have a more optimistic view. Unlike his grandfather and
father Kim was educated outside of North Korea. His background
is reminiscent of what happened in China as people became exposed
to Western educational systems and experienced what the world is
like outside the walls of their dark caves. Once started, China
*had* to change or risked a major revolution by the people.

Kim may be sincere or he may not be. But having discussions with
him is far better than closing our eyes and ears and just keep
ignoring the situation.