On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 11:18:33 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 10:35:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 7/3/18 10:05 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 13:03:29 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Wow...that would cost a small fortune in baggage fees, coming and going, up here.
Wife is heading off to Toronto for 5 days in the middle of the month and she's trying to pack everything into a carry on bag plus a large over the shoulder bag. We'll see how that works out.

Buy a better plane ticket and you don't pay baggage fees.


Well, it'll take a much bigger luggage fee to come out ahead.
I bought our two tickets in coach and paid a bit extra per seat to get
the Emergency Exit row for each of us. These have sufficient legroom to
get comfortable. The tickets were $640 each *less* than first class. My
wife has a big rolling suitcase that if she packs carefully stays under
50 pounds and if she is a little over, the shoes end up in my smaller,
lighter suitcase. So, what would we be missing in first class? Some
crappy microwaved airline meal, as opposed to the sandwiches and snacks
we'll buy in the airport to take on board.

Airline travel is a big enough rip-off as it is. Why hand them even more
$$$ to be inconvenienced with a ****ty means of travel.

Quite simply, they treat you nicer. A first class seat is still bigger
than any coach seat, you don't have anyone with their elbow in your
lap. You get on and off the plane faster, lines at the counter are
pretty much non existent, baggage comes off the plane first. They
usually have an express line through TSS, free drinks etc.
BTW those baggage (and other) fees add up pretty fast.

It is a ****ty way to travel but less so up front and I am willing to
pay to be treated nicer. If you want to be cattle prodded back to your
cheap seats and be uncomfortable for 5 hours or so, go for it. I might
be OK in an exit row seat going from here to Atlanta but not to the
west coast.

Everything you said. When we travel for pleasure it's up front. The company won't pay for first class unless it's international, but I still pay out of pocket for the better coach seats when I have to go somewhere. Unfortunately, or actually fortunately, I don't travel for business much anymore so I've lost the airline perks I used to enjoy.

On Wednesday, 4 July 2018 10:54:40 UTC-3, justan wrote:
Wrote in message:
On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 13:03:29 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Wow...that would cost a small fortune in baggage fees, coming and going, up here.
Wife is heading off to Toronto for 5 days in the middle of the month and she's trying to pack everything into a carry on bag plus a large over the shoulder bag. We'll see how that works out.

Buy a better plane ticket and you don't pay baggage fees.


Thrifty Don wouldn't think of it.
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Neighbourhood lady was going up to an Eagles concert and hated the idea of traveling alone. She used her air miles to pay for my wife's trip..except for the small portion that had to be paid by flyer. $152.00 for round trip flight to Toronto in the middle of summer. Cheap by Canadian prices.

On 7/4/2018 11:18 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 10:35:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 7/3/18 10:05 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 13:03:29 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Wow...that would cost a small fortune in baggage fees, coming and going, up here.
Wife is heading off to Toronto for 5 days in the middle of the month and she's trying to pack everything into a carry on bag plus a large over the shoulder bag. We'll see how that works out.

Buy a better plane ticket and you don't pay baggage fees.


Well, it'll take a much bigger luggage fee to come out ahead.
I bought our two tickets in coach and paid a bit extra per seat to get
the Emergency Exit row for each of us. These have sufficient legroom to
get comfortable. The tickets were $640 each *less* than first class. My
wife has a big rolling suitcase that if she packs carefully stays under
50 pounds and if she is a little over, the shoes end up in my smaller,
lighter suitcase. So, what would we be missing in first class? Some
crappy microwaved airline meal, as opposed to the sandwiches and snacks
we'll buy in the airport to take on board.

Airline travel is a big enough rip-off as it is. Why hand them even more
$$$ to be inconvenienced with a ****ty means of travel.

Quite simply, they treat you nicer. A first class seat is still bigger
than any coach seat, you don't have anyone with their elbow in your
lap. You get on and off the plane faster, lines at the counter are
pretty much non existent, baggage comes off the plane first. They
usually have an express line through TSS, free drinks etc.
BTW those baggage (and other) fees add up pretty fast.

It is a ****ty way to travel but less so up front and I am willing to
pay to be treated nicer. If you want to be cattle prodded back to your
cheap seats and be uncomfortable for 5 hours or so, go for it. I might
be OK in an exit row seat going from here to Atlanta but not to the
west coast.


Airlines used to have a "business class" for the long haul flights.
Cheaper than First Class but much better than coach. I guess those
days are gone.

On Wednesday, 4 July 2018 12:14:39 UTC-3, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 10:45:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 7/4/2018 10:35 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 7/3/18 10:05 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 13:03:29 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Wow...that would cost a small fortune in baggage fees, coming and
going, up here.
Wife is heading off to Toronto for 5 days in the middle of the month
and she's trying to pack everything into a carry on bag plus a large
over the shoulder bag. We'll see how that works out.

Buy a better plane ticket and you don't pay baggage fees.


Well, it'll take a much bigger luggage fee to come out ahead.
I bought our two tickets in coach and paid a bit extra per seat to get
the Emergency Exit row for each of us. These have sufficient legroom to
get comfortable. The tickets were $640 each *less* than first class. My
wife has a big rolling suitcase that if she packs carefully stays under
50 pounds and if she is a little over, the shoes end up in my smaller,
lighter suitcase. So, what would we be missing in first class? Some
crappy microwaved airline meal, as opposed to the sandwiches and snacks
we'll buy in the airport to take on board.

Airline travel is a big enough rip-off as it is. Why hand them even more
$$$ to be inconvenienced with a ****ty means of travel.


You might want to look into buying or renting an RV. You can take
all the luggage and food you want while saving big bucks by not
staying in crappy, bedbug ridden hotel rooms. :-)

===

Better yet, buy a big, fuel efficient, diesel trawler. Sleep in your
own clean comfortable bed every night at the scenic waterfront
location of your choice.

(Presently in Essex, one of the crown jewels of the CT coast)

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1025&bih=473&e i=cOM8W_3MG6Pn5gLqroHIAg&q=essex%2C+ct&oq=essex%2C +ct


Essex?? Isn't that where L'il Scotty Ingersol had a house?

On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 11:19:27 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 7/4/18 11:14 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 10:45:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 7/4/2018 10:35 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 7/3/18 10:05 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 13:03:29 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Wow...that would cost a small fortune in baggage fees, coming and
going, up here.
Wife is heading off to Toronto for 5 days in the middle of the month
and she's trying to pack everything into a carry on bag plus a large
over the shoulder bag. We'll see how that works out.

Buy a better plane ticket and you don't pay baggage fees.


Well, it'll take a much bigger luggage fee to come out ahead.
I bought our two tickets in coach and paid a bit extra per seat to get
the Emergency Exit row for each of us. These have sufficient legroom to
get comfortable. The tickets were $640 each *less* than first class. My
wife has a big rolling suitcase that if she packs carefully stays under
50 pounds and if she is a little over, the shoes end up in my smaller,
lighter suitcase. So, what would we be missing in first class? Some
crappy microwaved airline meal, as opposed to the sandwiches and snacks
we'll buy in the airport to take on board.

Airline travel is a big enough rip-off as it is. Why hand them even more
$$$ to be inconvenienced with a ****ty means of travel.


You might want to look into buying or renting an RV. You can take
all the luggage and food you want while saving big bucks by not
staying in crappy, bedbug ridden hotel rooms. :-)

===

Better yet, buy a big, fuel efficient, diesel trawler. Sleep in your
own clean comfortable bed every night at the scenic waterfront
location of your choice.

(Presently in Essex, one of the crown jewels of the CT coast)



Essex moved from the river to the coast? Damn, I didn't know that.
Thanks for the tip!

===

(Presently in Essex, one of the crown jewels of coastal CT)

On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 08:33:13 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

On Wednesday, 4 July 2018 12:14:39 UTC-3, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 10:45:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 7/4/2018 10:35 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 7/3/18 10:05 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 13:03:29 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Wow...that would cost a small fortune in baggage fees, coming and
going, up here.
Wife is heading off to Toronto for 5 days in the middle of the month
and she's trying to pack everything into a carry on bag plus a large
over the shoulder bag. We'll see how that works out.

Buy a better plane ticket and you don't pay baggage fees.


Well, it'll take a much bigger luggage fee to come out ahead.
I bought our two tickets in coach and paid a bit extra per seat to get
the Emergency Exit row for each of us. These have sufficient legroom to
get comfortable. The tickets were $640 each *less* than first class. My
wife has a big rolling suitcase that if she packs carefully stays under
50 pounds and if she is a little over, the shoes end up in my smaller,
lighter suitcase. So, what would we be missing in first class? Some
crappy microwaved airline meal, as opposed to the sandwiches and snacks
we'll buy in the airport to take on board.

Airline travel is a big enough rip-off as it is. Why hand them even more
$$$ to be inconvenienced with a ****ty means of travel.


You might want to look into buying or renting an RV. You can take
all the luggage and food you want while saving big bucks by not
staying in crappy, bedbug ridden hotel rooms. :-)

===

Better yet, buy a big, fuel efficient, diesel trawler. Sleep in your
own clean comfortable bed every night at the scenic waterfront
location of your choice.

(Presently in Essex, one of the crown jewels of the CT coast)

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1025&bih=473&e i=cOM8W_3MG6Pn5gLqroHIAg&q=essex%2C+ct&oq=essex%2C +ct


Essex?? Isn't that where L'il Scotty Ingersol had a house?

===

I believe he moved inland quite a while ago.

wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 10:35:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 7/3/18 10:05 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 13:03:29 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Wow...that would cost a small fortune in baggage fees, coming and going, up here.
Wife is heading off to Toronto for 5 days in the middle of the month
and she's trying to pack everything into a carry on bag plus a large
over the shoulder bag. We'll see how that works out.

Buy a better plane ticket and you don't pay baggage fees.


Well, it'll take a much bigger luggage fee to come out ahead.
I bought our two tickets in coach and paid a bit extra per seat to get
the Emergency Exit row for each of us. These have sufficient legroom to
get comfortable. The tickets were $640 each *less* than first class. My
wife has a big rolling suitcase that if she packs carefully stays under
50 pounds and if she is a little over, the shoes end up in my smaller,
lighter suitcase. So, what would we be missing in first class? Some
crappy microwaved airline meal, as opposed to the sandwiches and snacks
we'll buy in the airport to take on board.

Airline travel is a big enough rip-off as it is. Why hand them even more
$$$ to be inconvenienced with a ****ty means of travel.

Quite simply, they treat you nicer. A first class seat is still bigger
than any coach seat, you don't have anyone with their elbow in your
lap. You get on and off the plane faster, lines at the counter are
pretty much non existent, baggage comes off the plane first. They
usually have an express line through TSS, free drinks etc.
BTW those baggage (and other) fees add up pretty fast.

It is a ****ty way to travel but less so up front and I am willing to
pay to be treated nicer. If you want to be cattle prodded back to your
cheap seats and be uncomfortable for 5 hours or so, go for it. I might
be OK in an exit row seat going from here to Atlanta but not to the
west coast.


The bad part about upgrading these days are the exorbitant charges. When
we went Dallas to Johannesburg was $1400 coach, which did include meals and
drinks. To move up to Business was an EXTRA $5700. When I use to fly to
Asia, business class was only 50% more. We are going to Kauai later this
year. Economy Plus is an extra $80 each way. Which is not that bad.
Which means you are paying $155 more than the $25 baggage fee for one
checked bag. Expensive meals,

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 7/4/2018 11:18 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 10:35:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 7/3/18 10:05 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 13:03:29 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Wow...that would cost a small fortune in baggage fees, coming and going, up here.
Wife is heading off to Toronto for 5 days in the middle of the month
and she's trying to pack everything into a carry on bag plus a large
over the shoulder bag. We'll see how that works out.

Buy a better plane ticket and you don't pay baggage fees.


Well, it'll take a much bigger luggage fee to come out ahead.
I bought our two tickets in coach and paid a bit extra per seat to get
the Emergency Exit row for each of us. These have sufficient legroom to
get comfortable. The tickets were $640 each *less* than first class. My
wife has a big rolling suitcase that if she packs carefully stays under
50 pounds and if she is a little over, the shoes end up in my smaller,
lighter suitcase. So, what would we be missing in first class? Some
crappy microwaved airline meal, as opposed to the sandwiches and snacks
we'll buy in the airport to take on board.

Airline travel is a big enough rip-off as it is. Why hand them even more
$$$ to be inconvenienced with a ****ty means of travel.

Quite simply, they treat you nicer. A first class seat is still bigger
than any coach seat, you don't have anyone with their elbow in your
lap. You get on and off the plane faster, lines at the counter are
pretty much non existent, baggage comes off the plane first. They
usually have an express line through TSS, free drinks etc.
BTW those baggage (and other) fees add up pretty fast.

It is a ****ty way to travel but less so up front and I am willing to
pay to be treated nicer. If you want to be cattle prodded back to your
cheap seats and be uncomfortable for 5 hours or so, go for it. I might
be OK in an exit row seat going from here to Atlanta but not to the
west coast.


Airlines used to have a "business class" for the long haul flights.
Cheaper than First Class but much better than coach. I guess those
days are gone.




I think they renamed it economy plus.

On 7/4/18 11:33 AM, True North wrote:
On Wednesday, 4 July 2018 12:14:39 UTC-3, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 10:45:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 7/4/2018 10:35 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 7/3/18 10:05 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 13:03:29 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Wow...that would cost a small fortune in baggage fees, coming and
going, up here.
Wife is heading off to Toronto for 5 days in the middle of the month
and she's trying to pack everything into a carry on bag plus a large
over the shoulder bag. We'll see how that works out.

Buy a better plane ticket and you don't pay baggage fees.


Well, it'll take a much bigger luggage fee to come out ahead.
I bought our two tickets in coach and paid a bit extra per seat to get
the Emergency Exit row for each of us. These have sufficient legroom to
get comfortable. The tickets were $640 each *less* than first class. My
wife has a big rolling suitcase that if she packs carefully stays under
50 pounds and if she is a little over, the shoes end up in my smaller,
lighter suitcase. So, what would we be missing in first class? Some
crappy microwaved airline meal, as opposed to the sandwiches and snacks
we'll buy in the airport to take on board.

Airline travel is a big enough rip-off as it is. Why hand them even more
$$$ to be inconvenienced with a ****ty means of travel.


You might want to look into buying or renting an RV. You can take
all the luggage and food you want while saving big bucks by not
staying in crappy, bedbug ridden hotel rooms. :-)

===

Better yet, buy a big, fuel efficient, diesel trawler. Sleep in your
own clean comfortable bed every night at the scenic waterfront
location of your choice.

(Presently in Essex, one of the crown jewels of the CT coast)

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1025&bih=473&e i=cOM8W_3MG6Pn5gLqroHIAg&q=essex%2C+ct&oq=essex%2C +ct


Essex?? Isn't that where L'il Scotty Ingersol had a house?


I think you are right. Despite that, it is a pretty town.

On 7/4/18 12:15 PM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 10:35:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 7/3/18 10:05 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 13:03:29 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Wow...that would cost a small fortune in baggage fees, coming and going, up here.
Wife is heading off to Toronto for 5 days in the middle of the month
and she's trying to pack everything into a carry on bag plus a large
over the shoulder bag. We'll see how that works out.

Buy a better plane ticket and you don't pay baggage fees.


Well, it'll take a much bigger luggage fee to come out ahead.
I bought our two tickets in coach and paid a bit extra per seat to get
the Emergency Exit row for each of us. These have sufficient legroom to
get comfortable. The tickets were $640 each *less* than first class. My
wife has a big rolling suitcase that if she packs carefully stays under
50 pounds and if she is a little over, the shoes end up in my smaller,
lighter suitcase. So, what would we be missing in first class? Some
crappy microwaved airline meal, as opposed to the sandwiches and snacks
we'll buy in the airport to take on board.

Airline travel is a big enough rip-off as it is. Why hand them even more
$$$ to be inconvenienced with a ****ty means of travel.

Quite simply, they treat you nicer. A first class seat is still bigger
than any coach seat, you don't have anyone with their elbow in your
lap. You get on and off the plane faster, lines at the counter are
pretty much non existent, baggage comes off the plane first. They
usually have an express line through TSS, free drinks etc.
BTW those baggage (and other) fees add up pretty fast.

It is a ****ty way to travel but less so up front and I am willing to
pay to be treated nicer. If you want to be cattle prodded back to your
cheap seats and be uncomfortable for 5 hours or so, go for it. I might
be OK in an exit row seat going from here to Atlanta but not to the
west coast.


The bad part about upgrading these days are the exorbitant charges. When
we went Dallas to Johannesburg was $1400 coach, which did include meals and
drinks. To move up to Business was an EXTRA $5700. When I use to fly to
Asia, business class was only 50% more. We are going to Kauai later this
year. Economy Plus is an extra $80 each way. Which is not that bad.
Which means you are paying $155 more than the $25 baggage fee for one
checked bag. Expensive meals,


Most of the planes that travel within the USA seem to only offer
steerage and first class, which is what our flight from DCA has...