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True North Wrote in message:Â* - show quoted text - "I thought it was around 1975 that Kanada freed themselves fromÂ* Â*Brittish rule and became semi independant." That's where y'all went wrong. Don't try to think....it's not a strong suit for your Exaulted Ruler or any of his turds. |
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On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:11:43 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 7/16/18 12:20 AM, wrote: On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 02:39:13 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: And it was the British who brought a lot of the slaves to America. And the Carib. They only freed them in England, not in any colonies. Make that pretty much all the slaves. 18 years after we kicked the British out the congress passed a low barring any more importation of slaves. Most were already here before 1776, brought here on British ships. Portugal, England, Spain, France, the Netherlands, among other European nations, engaged in bringing slaves to the "New World." The Portuguese were the largest slave traders. Slaves were brought here throughout much of the 19th Century. Not legally, after 1807. There are estimates that twelve to fifteen million Africans were brought over as slaves, but many died in the transit. Their survivors lived in slavery in this country beyond the Civil War, even though they were emancipated. There are ways to enslave people without calling them slaves. That gets us back to my contention that the civil war was unnecessary. Perhaps if slavery was ended in a way that did not cost us 600,000 lives and destroy half of the country, the transition might have been faster and less contentious. At least you admit the war did not make the slaves equal. The process took 150 years, just to get where we are now. |
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On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 10:23:10 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 7/16/18 10:19 AM, justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 7/16/18 12:20 AM, wrote: On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 02:39:13 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: And it was the British who brought a lot of the slaves to America. And the Carib. They only freed them in England, not in any colonies. Make that pretty much all the slaves. 18 years after we kicked the British out the congress passed a low barring any more importation of slaves. Most were already here before 1776, brought here on British ships. Portugal, England, Spain, France, the Netherlands, among other European nations, engaged in bringing slaves to the "New World." The Portuguese were the largest slave traders. Slaves were brought here throughout much of the 19th Century. There are estimates that twelve to fifteen million Africans were brought over as slaves, but many died in the transit. Their survivors lived in slavery in this country beyond the Civil War, even though they were emancipated. There are ways to enslave people without calling them slaves. Union members? Since union members typically earn a higher hourly wage and receive better benefits than non-union members performing identical jobs, and since union members have a contract and union officials to file and pursue grievances on their behalf, one might fairly conclude that non-union members are the wage slaves. Non-union workers are, for the most part, easily disposable...just like slaves. You, of course, never had the skills to perform a skilled union job. They simply become slaves to the union and the union rules. A slug who should have been fired a decade ago will still make a lot more money than a young guy with superior skills and work ethic simply because the old guy has more time in the union. The big difference in "disposibility" is a non performing non union employee may be fired but he can go next door and try to get hired there. When the union prices themselves out of the labor market everyone gets fired, the factory moves and there is no next door to go to. You can walk around Flint Michigan to see that, just don't drink the water. |
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On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 14:32:56 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 10:23:10 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 7/16/18 10:19 AM, justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 7/16/18 12:20 AM, wrote: On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 02:39:13 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: And it was the British who brought a lot of the slaves to America. And the Carib. They only freed them in England, not in any colonies. Make that pretty much all the slaves. 18 years after we kicked the British out the congress passed a low barring any more importation of slaves. Most were already here before 1776, brought here on British ships. Portugal, England, Spain, France, the Netherlands, among other European nations, engaged in bringing slaves to the "New World." The Portuguese were the largest slave traders. Slaves were brought here throughout much of the 19th Century. There are estimates that twelve to fifteen million Africans were brought over as slaves, but many died in the transit. Their survivors lived in slavery in this country beyond the Civil War, even though they were emancipated. There are ways to enslave people without calling them slaves. Union members? Since union members typically earn a higher hourly wage and receive better benefits than non-union members performing identical jobs, and since union members have a contract and union officials to file and pursue grievances on their behalf, one might fairly conclude that non-union members are the wage slaves. Non-union workers are, for the most part, easily disposable...just like slaves. You, of course, never had the skills to perform a skilled union job. They simply become slaves to the union and the union rules. A slug who should have been fired a decade ago will still make a lot more money than a young guy with superior skills and work ethic simply because the old guy has more time in the union. The big difference in "disposibility" is a non performing non union employee may be fired but he can go next door and try to get hired there. When the union prices themselves out of the labor market everyone gets fired, the factory moves and there is no next door to go to. You can walk around Flint Michigan to see that, just don't drink the water. And don't get shot. |
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On 7/16/18 2:25 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:11:43 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 7/16/18 12:20 AM, wrote: On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 02:39:13 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: And it was the British who brought a lot of the slaves to America. And the Carib. They only freed them in England, not in any colonies. Make that pretty much all the slaves. 18 years after we kicked the British out the congress passed a low barring any more importation of slaves. Most were already here before 1776, brought here on British ships. Portugal, England, Spain, France, the Netherlands, among other European nations, engaged in bringing slaves to the "New World." The Portuguese were the largest slave traders. Slaves were brought here throughout much of the 19th Century. Not legally, after 180 There are estimates that twelve to fifteen million Africans were brought over as slaves, but many died in the transit. Their survivors lived in slavery in this country beyond the Civil War, even though they were emancipated. There are ways to enslave people without calling them slaves. That gets us back to my contention that the civil war was unnecessary. Perhaps if slavery was ended in a way that did not cost us 600,000 lives and destroy half of the country, the transition might have been faster and less contentious. At least you admit the war did not make the slaves equal. The process took 150 years, just to get where we are now. I see you are still promoting the idea that slavery was an ok thing. If the former slaves are not equal, it is the fault of whitey. |
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On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 15:46:12 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 7/16/18 2:25 PM, wrote: On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:11:43 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 7/16/18 12:20 AM, wrote: On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 02:39:13 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: And it was the British who brought a lot of the slaves to America. And the Carib. They only freed them in England, not in any colonies. Make that pretty much all the slaves. 18 years after we kicked the British out the congress passed a low barring any more importation of slaves. Most were already here before 1776, brought here on British ships. Portugal, England, Spain, France, the Netherlands, among other European nations, engaged in bringing slaves to the "New World." The Portuguese were the largest slave traders. Slaves were brought here throughout much of the 19th Century. Not legally, after 180 There are estimates that twelve to fifteen million Africans were brought over as slaves, but many died in the transit. Their survivors lived in slavery in this country beyond the Civil War, even though they were emancipated. There are ways to enslave people without calling them slaves. That gets us back to my contention that the civil war was unnecessary. Perhaps if slavery was ended in a way that did not cost us 600,000 lives and destroy half of the country, the transition might have been faster and less contentious. At least you admit the war did not make the slaves equal. The process took 150 years, just to get where we are now. I see you are still promoting the idea that slavery was an ok thing. If the former slaves are not equal, it is the fault of whitey. It's much the fault of them not taking advantage of that which is offered - education. And a lack of fatherly influence doesn't help matters. Remember, about 80% of the black babies born in DC are born out of wedlock. |
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On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 15:46:12 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 7/16/18 2:25 PM, wrote: On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:11:43 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 7/16/18 12:20 AM, wrote: On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 02:39:13 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: And it was the British who brought a lot of the slaves to America. And the Carib. They only freed them in England, not in any colonies. Make that pretty much all the slaves. 18 years after we kicked the British out the congress passed a low barring any more importation of slaves. Most were already here before 1776, brought here on British ships. Portugal, England, Spain, France, the Netherlands, among other European nations, engaged in bringing slaves to the "New World." The Portuguese were the largest slave traders. Slaves were brought here throughout much of the 19th Century. Not legally, after 180 There are estimates that twelve to fifteen million Africans were brought over as slaves, but many died in the transit. Their survivors lived in slavery in this country beyond the Civil War, even though they were emancipated. There are ways to enslave people without calling them slaves. That gets us back to my contention that the civil war was unnecessary. Perhaps if slavery was ended in a way that did not cost us 600,000 lives and destroy half of the country, the transition might have been faster and less contentious. At least you admit the war did not make the slaves equal. The process took 150 years, just to get where we are now. I see you are still promoting the idea that slavery was an ok thing. If the former slaves are not equal, it is the fault of whitey. I never said it was OK. I just said that the war was not the best way to resolve the issue and you are simply proving the futility of that method. |
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On 7/16/18 9:05 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 15:46:12 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 7/16/18 2:25 PM, wrote: On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:11:43 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 7/16/18 12:20 AM, wrote: On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 02:39:13 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: And it was the British who brought a lot of the slaves to America. And the Carib. They only freed them in England, not in any colonies. Make that pretty much all the slaves. 18 years after we kicked the British out the congress passed a low barring any more importation of slaves. Most were already here before 1776, brought here on British ships. Portugal, England, Spain, France, the Netherlands, among other European nations, engaged in bringing slaves to the "New World." The Portuguese were the largest slave traders. Slaves were brought here throughout much of the 19th Century. Not legally, after 180 There are estimates that twelve to fifteen million Africans were brought over as slaves, but many died in the transit. Their survivors lived in slavery in this country beyond the Civil War, even though they were emancipated. There are ways to enslave people without calling them slaves. That gets us back to my contention that the civil war was unnecessary. Perhaps if slavery was ended in a way that did not cost us 600,000 lives and destroy half of the country, the transition might have been faster and less contentious. At least you admit the war did not make the slaves equal. The process took 150 years, just to get where we are now. I see you are still promoting the idea that slavery was an ok thing. If the former slaves are not equal, it is the fault of whitey. I never said it was OK. I just said that the war was not the best way to resolve the issue and you are simply proving the futility of that method. It wasn't futile; it was necessary. How many more generations of slavery would have been acceptable to you and the rest of you white conservatives? |
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True North wrote:
John H - show quoted text - "Asshole, maybe. Keeping a long list...not necessary. I've never seen anyone so afraid to answer aÂ* question." Y'all are an amusing old fart, Johnny. Kalif asked me when the Brits were going to make reparations to their former slaves defendants. I wouldn't know the answer to that anymore than if a Brit asked when 'mericans were going to come to their senses and run Trump out on a rail. Judging by the motley crew in here, I'd doubt it will be anytime soon. You asked about American reparations. We asked you about British reparations. You are closer to British than us southern people. And when the British were,shipping slaves to the America’s Canada was 100% British. |
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