A good video of the problems faced by Scituate, MA, from the nor'easters this past spring.

https://features.weather.com/exodus/...me-every-year/

Much of the problem is blamed on climate change, but the sea level has risen by only 8 inches on
average since 1900. A good article on the problem:

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/1...shment-project

"This year, the town of Scituate, which includes Humarock, proposed building a $9.6 million
artificial dune and raised road to protect the homes.

Yet some residents are prepared to block the project. The town is asking them to sign easements that
would cede property rights along the privately owned beach and allow public access. Whatever
concerns they have about protecting their homes are being overridden by fear of permanently
relinquishing control of their property.

Seems like some folks bring on the problems themselves, but like to blame climate change.

On Mon, 06 Aug 2018 15:40:44 -0400, John H.
wrote:

A good video of the problems faced by Scituate, MA, from the nor'easters this past spring.

https://features.weather.com/exodus/...me-every-year/

Much of the problem is blamed on climate change, but the sea level has risen by only 8 inches on
average since 1900. A good article on the problem:

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/1...shment-project

"This year, the town of Scituate, which includes Humarock, proposed building a $9.6 million
artificial dune and raised road to protect the homes.

Yet some residents are prepared to block the project. The town is asking them to sign easements that
would cede property rights along the privately owned beach and allow public access. Whatever
concerns they have about protecting their homes are being overridden by fear of permanently
relinquishing control of their property.

Seems like some folks bring on the problems themselves, but like to blame climate change.

===

Scituate has been hammered more times than my great grand uncle's
blacksmithing anvil. I'm fine with people living on that beach if
that's what they want, but I'm not fine with repeated tax payer bail
outs.

On Mon, 06 Aug 2018 15:54:08 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 06 Aug 2018 15:40:44 -0400, John H.
wrote:

A good video of the problems faced by Scituate, MA, from the nor'easters this past spring.

https://features.weather.com/exodus/...me-every-year/

Much of the problem is blamed on climate change, but the sea level has risen by only 8 inches on
average since 1900. A good article on the problem:

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/1...shment-project

"This year, the town of Scituate, which includes Humarock, proposed building a $9.6 million
artificial dune and raised road to protect the homes.

Yet some residents are prepared to block the project. The town is asking them to sign easements that
would cede property rights along the privately owned beach and allow public access. Whatever
concerns they have about protecting their homes are being overridden by fear of permanently
relinquishing control of their property.

Seems like some folks bring on the problems themselves, but like to blame climate change.

===

Scituate has been hammered more times than my great grand uncle's
blacksmithing anvil. I'm fine with people living on that beach if
that's what they want, but I'm not fine with repeated tax payer bail
outs.

Can't disagree with that! When seen in an overhead view, it appears they're just trying hard to
tempt mother nature.

On 8/6/2018 5:01 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 06 Aug 2018 15:54:08 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 06 Aug 2018 15:40:44 -0400, John H.
wrote:

A good video of the problems faced by Scituate, MA, from the nor'easters this past spring.

https://features.weather.com/exodus/...me-every-year/

Much of the problem is blamed on climate change, but the sea level has risen by only 8 inches on
average since 1900. A good article on the problem:

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/1...shment-project

"This year, the town of Scituate, which includes Humarock, proposed building a $9.6 million
artificial dune and raised road to protect the homes.

Yet some residents are prepared to block the project. The town is asking them to sign easements that
would cede property rights along the privately owned beach and allow public access. Whatever
concerns they have about protecting their homes are being overridden by fear of permanently
relinquishing control of their property.

Seems like some folks bring on the problems themselves, but like to blame climate change.

===

Scituate has been hammered more times than my great grand uncle's
blacksmithing anvil. I'm fine with people living on that beach if
that's what they want, but I'm not fine with repeated tax payer bail
outs.

Can't disagree with that! When seen in an overhead view, it appears they're just trying hard to
tempt mother nature.



Don't go pick'in on one of my favorite towns up here (Scituate) :-)

Go back to your insideclimatenews.org link and scroll down a bit until
you come upon an interactive map. Check that out. You'll find that
Massachusetts has invested a mere pittance to coastal erosion compared
to all the other states on the east coast, especially Florida. Since
1990 Florida has had major projects on both coasts, from Jacksonville to
Miami and from Cape Coral to Tampa.

Most of the money spent has been from New Jersey and southward and
includes every state from there to Florida.

On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 18:44:52 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 8/6/2018 5:01 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 06 Aug 2018 15:54:08 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 06 Aug 2018 15:40:44 -0400, John H.
wrote:

A good video of the problems faced by Scituate, MA, from the nor'easters this past spring.

https://features.weather.com/exodus/...me-every-year/

Much of the problem is blamed on climate change, but the sea level has risen by only 8 inches on
average since 1900. A good article on the problem:

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/1...shment-project

"This year, the town of Scituate, which includes Humarock, proposed building a $9.6 million
artificial dune and raised road to protect the homes.

Yet some residents are prepared to block the project. The town is asking them to sign easements that
would cede property rights along the privately owned beach and allow public access. Whatever
concerns they have about protecting their homes are being overridden by fear of permanently
relinquishing control of their property.

Seems like some folks bring on the problems themselves, but like to blame climate change.

===

Scituate has been hammered more times than my great grand uncle's
blacksmithing anvil. I'm fine with people living on that beach if
that's what they want, but I'm not fine with repeated tax payer bail
outs.

Can't disagree with that! When seen in an overhead view, it appears they're just trying hard to
tempt mother nature.



Don't go pick'in on one of my favorite towns up here (Scituate) :-)

Go back to your insideclimatenews.org link and scroll down a bit until
you come upon an interactive map. Check that out. You'll find that
Massachusetts has invested a mere pittance to coastal erosion compared
to all the other states on the east coast, especially Florida. Since
1990 Florida has had major projects on both coasts, from Jacksonville to
Miami and from Cape Coral to Tampa.

Most of the money spent has been from New Jersey and southward and
includes every state from there to Florida.


That's what I mean. They blame 'climate change' but don't want to do the things necessary to protect
themselves.

On 8/6/2018 7:16 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 18:44:52 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 8/6/2018 5:01 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 06 Aug 2018 15:54:08 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 06 Aug 2018 15:40:44 -0400, John H.
wrote:

A good video of the problems faced by Scituate, MA, from the nor'easters this past spring.

https://features.weather.com/exodus/...me-every-year/

Much of the problem is blamed on climate change, but the sea level has risen by only 8 inches on
average since 1900. A good article on the problem:

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/1...shment-project

"This year, the town of Scituate, which includes Humarock, proposed building a $9.6 million
artificial dune and raised road to protect the homes.

Yet some residents are prepared to block the project. The town is asking them to sign easements that
would cede property rights along the privately owned beach and allow public access. Whatever
concerns they have about protecting their homes are being overridden by fear of permanently
relinquishing control of their property.

Seems like some folks bring on the problems themselves, but like to blame climate change.

===

Scituate has been hammered more times than my great grand uncle's
blacksmithing anvil. I'm fine with people living on that beach if
that's what they want, but I'm not fine with repeated tax payer bail
outs.

Can't disagree with that! When seen in an overhead view, it appears they're just trying hard to
tempt mother nature.



Don't go pick'in on one of my favorite towns up here (Scituate) :-)

Go back to your insideclimatenews.org link and scroll down a bit until
you come upon an interactive map. Check that out. You'll find that
Massachusetts has invested a mere pittance to coastal erosion compared
to all the other states on the east coast, especially Florida. Since
1990 Florida has had major projects on both coasts, from Jacksonville to
Miami and from Cape Coral to Tampa.

Most of the money spent has been from New Jersey and southward and
includes every state from there to Florida.


That's what I mean. They blame 'climate change' but don't want to do the things necessary to protect
themselves.



You mean depend on federal bail out funds?

On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 19:25:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 8/6/2018 7:16 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 18:44:52 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 8/6/2018 5:01 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 06 Aug 2018 15:54:08 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 06 Aug 2018 15:40:44 -0400, John H.
wrote:

A good video of the problems faced by Scituate, MA, from the nor'easters this past spring.

https://features.weather.com/exodus/...me-every-year/

Much of the problem is blamed on climate change, but the sea level has risen by only 8 inches on
average since 1900. A good article on the problem:

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/1...shment-project

"This year, the town of Scituate, which includes Humarock, proposed building a $9.6 million
artificial dune and raised road to protect the homes.

Yet some residents are prepared to block the project. The town is asking them to sign easements that
would cede property rights along the privately owned beach and allow public access. Whatever
concerns they have about protecting their homes are being overridden by fear of permanently
relinquishing control of their property.

Seems like some folks bring on the problems themselves, but like to blame climate change.

===

Scituate has been hammered more times than my great grand uncle's
blacksmithing anvil. I'm fine with people living on that beach if
that's what they want, but I'm not fine with repeated tax payer bail
outs.

Can't disagree with that! When seen in an overhead view, it appears they're just trying hard to
tempt mother nature.



Don't go pick'in on one of my favorite towns up here (Scituate) :-)

Go back to your insideclimatenews.org link and scroll down a bit until
you come upon an interactive map. Check that out. You'll find that
Massachusetts has invested a mere pittance to coastal erosion compared
to all the other states on the east coast, especially Florida. Since
1990 Florida has had major projects on both coasts, from Jacksonville to
Miami and from Cape Coral to Tampa.

Most of the money spent has been from New Jersey and southward and
includes every state from there to Florida.


That's what I mean. They blame 'climate change' but don't want to do the things necessary to protect
themselves.



You mean depend on federal bail out funds?


I was thinking more of these folks who don't want to sign away some property rights so the town can
try to fix the problem.

"This year, the town of Scituate, which includes Humarock, proposed building a $9.6 million
artificial dune and raised road to protect the homes.

Yet some residents are prepared to block the project. The town is asking them to sign easements that
would cede property rights along the privately owned beach and allow public access. Whatever
concerns they have about protecting their homes are being overridden by fear of permanently
relinquishing control of their property."

On Tuesday, August 7, 2018 at 6:11:03 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 19:25:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 8/6/2018 7:16 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 18:44:52 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 8/6/2018 5:01 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 06 Aug 2018 15:54:08 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 06 Aug 2018 15:40:44 -0400, John H.
wrote:

A good video of the problems faced by Scituate, MA, from the nor'easters this past spring.

https://features.weather.com/exodus/...me-every-year/

Much of the problem is blamed on climate change, but the sea level has risen by only 8 inches on
average since 1900. A good article on the problem:

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/1...shment-project

"This year, the town of Scituate, which includes Humarock, proposed building a $9.6 million
artificial dune and raised road to protect the homes.

Yet some residents are prepared to block the project. The town is asking them to sign easements that
would cede property rights along the privately owned beach and allow public access. Whatever
concerns they have about protecting their homes are being overridden by fear of permanently
relinquishing control of their property.

Seems like some folks bring on the problems themselves, but like to blame climate change.

===

Scituate has been hammered more times than my great grand uncle's
blacksmithing anvil. I'm fine with people living on that beach if
that's what they want, but I'm not fine with repeated tax payer bail
outs.

Can't disagree with that! When seen in an overhead view, it appears they're just trying hard to
tempt mother nature.



Don't go pick'in on one of my favorite towns up here (Scituate) :-)

Go back to your insideclimatenews.org link and scroll down a bit until
you come upon an interactive map. Check that out. You'll find that
Massachusetts has invested a mere pittance to coastal erosion compared
to all the other states on the east coast, especially Florida. Since
1990 Florida has had major projects on both coasts, from Jacksonville to
Miami and from Cape Coral to Tampa.

Most of the money spent has been from New Jersey and southward and
includes every state from there to Florida.


That's what I mean. They blame 'climate change' but don't want to do the things necessary to protect
themselves.



You mean depend on federal bail out funds?


I was thinking more of these folks who don't want to sign away some property rights so the town can
try to fix the problem.

"This year, the town of Scituate, which includes Humarock, proposed building a $9.6 million
artificial dune and raised road to protect the homes.

Yet some residents are prepared to block the project. The town is asking them to sign easements that
would cede property rights along the privately owned beach and allow public access. Whatever
concerns they have about protecting their homes are being overridden by fear of permanently
relinquishing control of their property."

Well, we can't have the poor, unwashed masses on our private beaches now, can we? If it's privately owned, then no public money should be used to prop it up. Why should state and federal tax money be used to "save" a bunch of rich people? Some might argue that it's a national treasure, but it's one I can't set foot on.

On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 06:17:28 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

If it's privately owned, then no public money should be used to prop it up. Why should state and federal tax money be used to "save" a bunch of rich people? Some might argue that it's a national treasure, but it's one I can't set foot on.

===

Exactly. It's too bad for the people who live there but it should
come as no surprise to them. Like many other beaches it has probably
been eroding for years. Beaches do that, and the sand that goes
missing ends up somewhere else to build a new beach.

In some ways it's like the people who build or buy a house near an
airport and are then surprised that planes are making noise.

On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 06:17:28 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote:

On Tuesday, August 7, 2018 at 6:11:03 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 19:25:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 8/6/2018 7:16 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 18:44:52 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 8/6/2018 5:01 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 06 Aug 2018 15:54:08 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 06 Aug 2018 15:40:44 -0400, John H.
wrote:

A good video of the problems faced by Scituate, MA, from the nor'easters this past spring.

https://features.weather.com/exodus/...me-every-year/

Much of the problem is blamed on climate change, but the sea level has risen by only 8 inches on
average since 1900. A good article on the problem:

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/1...shment-project

"This year, the town of Scituate, which includes Humarock, proposed building a $9.6 million
artificial dune and raised road to protect the homes.

Yet some residents are prepared to block the project. The town is asking them to sign easements that
would cede property rights along the privately owned beach and allow public access. Whatever
concerns they have about protecting their homes are being overridden by fear of permanently
relinquishing control of their property.

Seems like some folks bring on the problems themselves, but like to blame climate change.

===

Scituate has been hammered more times than my great grand uncle's
blacksmithing anvil. I'm fine with people living on that beach if
that's what they want, but I'm not fine with repeated tax payer bail
outs.

Can't disagree with that! When seen in an overhead view, it appears they're just trying hard to
tempt mother nature.



Don't go pick'in on one of my favorite towns up here (Scituate) :-)

Go back to your insideclimatenews.org link and scroll down a bit until
you come upon an interactive map. Check that out. You'll find that
Massachusetts has invested a mere pittance to coastal erosion compared
to all the other states on the east coast, especially Florida. Since
1990 Florida has had major projects on both coasts, from Jacksonville to
Miami and from Cape Coral to Tampa.

Most of the money spent has been from New Jersey and southward and
includes every state from there to Florida.


That's what I mean. They blame 'climate change' but don't want to do the things necessary to protect
themselves.



You mean depend on federal bail out funds?


I was thinking more of these folks who don't want to sign away some property rights so the town can
try to fix the problem.

"This year, the town of Scituate, which includes Humarock, proposed building a $9.6 million
artificial dune and raised road to protect the homes.

Yet some residents are prepared to block the project. The town is asking them to sign easements that
would cede property rights along the privately owned beach and allow public access. Whatever
concerns they have about protecting their homes are being overridden by fear of permanently
relinquishing control of their property."

Well, we can't have the poor, unwashed masses on our private beaches now, can we? If it's privately owned, then no public money should be used to prop it up. Why should state and federal tax money be used to "save" a bunch of rich people? Some might argue that it's a national treasure, but it's one I can't set foot on.

Yeah, you're right.