On 8/22/18 11:04 AM, Tim wrote:
Keyser Soze
On 8/22/18 10:19 AM, Tim wrote:

9:08 AMKeyser Soze
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With the pieces and parts Ruger includes, the "Minis" are not 1"
shooters at 100 yards rifles. Period.

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My ranch rifle is.


Bull****.

...

Just because you can’t shoot worth a hoot doesn’t mean no one else can. We’re talking 300 ft. for pity sakes. Not yards.

Try again.


Sorry, but an old-style Mini 14 or even a new-style Mini 14 with the
heavier barrel is NOT a 1 MOA rifle, even in a full bench rest shooting
top-drawer hand loads.

10:10 AMKeyser Soze
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Sorry, but an old-style Mini 14 or even a new-style Mini 14 with the
heavier barrel is NOT a 1 MOA rifle, even in a full bench rest shooting
top-drawer hand loads.
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Nobody said it was. But there’s people out there that can tight group at that distance with a .22 LR. Just because you can’t doesnt mean others can’t either.

But that’s ok. I’m sure you’re a sharpshooter at hitting 2 litre sodie bottles and stumps at 20 ft.

On 8/22/18 11:35 AM, Tim wrote:

10:10 AMKeyser Soze
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Sorry, but an old-style Mini 14 or even a new-style Mini 14 with the
heavier barrel is NOT a 1 MOA rifle, even in a full bench rest shooting
top-drawer hand loads.
.......

Nobody said it was. But there’s people out there that can tight group at that distance with a .22 LR. Just because you can’t doesnt mean others can’t either.

But that’s ok. I’m sure you’re a sharpshooter at hitting 2 litre sodie bottles and stumps at 20 ft.


*You* claimed you could shoot 1" groups with your Mini-14. A .22LR was
not under discussion at that point.

Keyser Soze
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*You* claimed you could shoot 1" groups with your Mini-14. A .22LR was
not under discussion at that point.

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And obviously you’ve missed the point.

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/21/18 10:31 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/21/18 8:09 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
Alex wrote:
John H. wrote:
Beautiful!

Nothing more need be said, except 'the slimy green-eyed monster lives in
a basement in Huntingtown,
MD'!

Thanks. I like it so Fat Harry must hate it!



The Mini-30 has a mixed rep for accuracy and reliability. The fancy stock
on the one you bought adds nothing to accuracy or reliability. I wouldn’t
own one. I don’t hate inanimate objects; I’m not a simple-minded
right-winger like you.


Stocks can add to accuracy.


The "Mini" series of Ruger Rifles have some fine attributes, but high
accuracy ain't one of them, regardless of the stock. `


You are blowing smoke now. Your statement was stocks do not add to
accuracy.



In the case of these Ruger production rifles, the barrels are not
free-floated, the barrels are not bedded, and the gas system creates
some accuracy issues, too. Ergo, the Ruger stocks do not add to the
accuracy of the rifle. I'm not sure I can simplify this any more for
you. With the pieces and parts Ruger includes, the "Minis" are not 1"
shooters at 100 yards rifles. Period. I have seen a video in which a
fellow put on a completely different barrel on a old Mini-14 and
improved his accuracy. As I said, though, the Mini-14s are good rifles
if you are not a target shooter.


You just explained how stocks add to accuracy. The statement by you was
stocks do not add to accuracy. And you claimed to pass English at an
advanced level?

On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 08:04:09 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Keyser Soze
On 8/22/18 10:19 AM, Tim wrote:

9:08 AMKeyser Soze
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With the pieces and parts Ruger includes, the "Minis" are not 1"
shooters at 100 yards rifles. Period.

........


My ranch rifle is.


Bull****.

...

Just because you can’t shoot worth a hoot doesn’t mean no one else can. We’re talking 300 ft. for pity sakes. Not yards.

Try again.

I agree. My old beat to **** .22 remington pump will get pretty close
to, if not 1" groups at 100 yards shooting garden variety feed store
ammo.
Bagged in a rest with match ammo I am sure it will do it.

On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 11:44:19 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 8/22/18 11:35 AM, Tim wrote:

10:10 AMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
Sorry, but an old-style Mini 14 or even a new-style Mini 14 with the
heavier barrel is NOT a 1 MOA rifle, even in a full bench rest shooting
top-drawer hand loads.
.......

Nobody said it was. But there’s people out there that can tight group at that distance with a .22 LR. Just because you can’t doesnt mean others can’t either.

But that’s ok. I’m sure you’re a sharpshooter at hitting 2 litre sodie bottles and stumps at 20 ft.


*You* claimed you could shoot 1" groups with your Mini-14. A .22LR was
not under discussion at that point.

I don't remember him saying he never tuned up his rifle.
You could improve your groups with one of those You Tube bedding jobs.
I am still surprised that any .223 would not shoot inside 1 MOA with
decent ammo from a rest and good optics. That round was originally
designed for shooting at ground hogs from very far away (as the Rem
..222). It is not unusual for guys to blow up a small rodent from
400-500 yards out. (granted with a BA rifle most of the time).

Keyser Söze wrote:
Alex wrote:
John H. wrote:
Beautiful!

Nothing more need be said, except 'the slimy green-eyed monster lives in
a basement in Huntingtown,
MD'!
Thanks. I like it so Fat Harry must hate it!


The Mini-30 has a mixed rep for accuracy and reliability. The fancy stock
on the one you bought adds nothing to accuracy or reliability. I wouldn’t
own one. I don’t hate inanimate objects; I’m not a simple-minded
right-winger like you.


I didn't buy it to shoot it.

Stock was made by Ruger. Call them.

On 8/22/18 8:46 PM, wrote:
On 22 Aug 2018 22:37:11 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 11:44:19 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 8/22/18 11:35 AM, Tim wrote:

10:10 AMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
Sorry, but an old-style Mini 14 or even a new-style Mini 14 with the
heavier barrel is NOT a 1 MOA rifle, even in a full bench rest shooting
top-drawer hand loads.
.......

Nobody said it was. But there’s people out there that can tight group
at that distance with a .22 LR. Just because you can’t doesnt mean others can’t either.

But that’s ok. I’m sure you’re a sharpshooter at hitting 2 litre sodie
bottles and stumps at 20 ft.


*You* claimed you could shoot 1" groups with your Mini-14. A .22LR was
not under discussion at that point.

I don't remember him saying he never tuned up his rifle.
You could improve your groups with one of those You Tube bedding jobs.
I am still surprised that any .223 would not shoot inside 1 MOA with
decent ammo from a rest and good optics. That round was originally
designed for shooting at ground hogs from very far away (as the Rem
.222). It is not unusual for guys to blow up a small rodent from
400-500 yards out. (granted with a BA rifle most of the time).


Mini 14s, the newer ones, are 3 moa rifles from a good rest. For a perfect
example and a top shooter, maybe 2 moa. The older Mini 14s are far worse.

I'm shooting under 1 moa with my TactiSol .22lr rifle and Nikon rimfire
scope with CCI Standard Vel ammo.

You might be right. My knowledge of those "fast little bullet"
cartridges is based on what varmint guys do with them. I never thought
it was a military cartridge and I never paid much attention to the
military rifles designed to use them. (yes Ruger was hoping to compete
with the AR)
OTOH just about any straight out of the box M1A will shoot inside a
MOA ... even if I can't ;-)



I'm not there (MOA) yet with my new AR10, but I am working on it. It's a
lot more to handle in terms of muzzle flip and recoil than anything I've
shot before, but I'm getting better. Oh...the noise...I'm wearing
earplugs and muffs when I shoot it. Sheesh! This is NOT a rifle
with which I can "sneak off" a few shots in the backyard.