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On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 18:19:05 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:
wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 05:45:00 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 20:09:20 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 16:55:13 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 08:55:15 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 02:32:16 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: John H. wrote: On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 15:39:06 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 20:08:35 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: We didn't really have guard duty, we had fire watch. I remember my first night there I saw a guy wearing a cartridge belt walking around and thinking he was a guard. My first thought was "I could take that guy". A couple nights later I was wearing the cartridge belt and walking around ;-) Same thick with air force. They explained making you wear the cartridge belt made you under arms and more liable if you screw up. There were not any live rounds on our side of the base and our drill rifles did not have firing pins in them. I am not quite sure what arms we were under. ;-) We had the belt. That was all. We wore the belt, canteen, ammo pouches and toted a real M-14...but no ammo. Air Force basic we only handled firearms on two days of 6 weeks. One day of inside, raining, safety and dry fire. Next day at range. In pouring rain. I'm thinking we spent about 3 weeks on weapons training - assembly, disassembly, and cleaning; the manual of arms; actual firing and qualifying with the weapon, bayonet drill... === So what's the spirit of the bayonet? Even Google knows the answer to that one. :-) Let me guess ... "Stab him, Stab him NOW!" We never had bayonets. Our plan was to start shooting at them about 12,000 yards out with the 5", then open up with the M2s if they got inside 500-1000 yards and prepare to ram. ;-) Lucky you. I'll bet you didn't have to clean the mud off your boots and then spit shine them for the next morning's inspection either. I love these new Army boots - no shining. Brush the mud off and good to go. We had our own fun. The "boondockers" we had were not just hugh top shoes like the Navy used. They gave us steel toed engineer boots that came with some kind of oiled finish that we had to get off before we started the spit shine process. They still wanted the spit shined tho. Once I got to the Navy school I found out those guys were OK with a shoe shine out of a bottle if you were careful laying it on. There was a little bit of a trick getting it on without streaks but it was still far faster than spit shining. I had 2 pairs of shoes. One was Kiwi, stored stuffed into white cotton boot socks, one was bottle shine, just in case someone changed their mind. At tech school, some bought the Corfam Boots. Come shining. Just do not scratch the finish. Did not come in my size, 14. After OCS I invested in Corfam low-quarters. Couldn't wear them before that. Always wore the Corcoran jump boots. They were easier to spit shine than the Army issue boots. |
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#63
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On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 15:20:16 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 18:19:05 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 05:45:00 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 20:09:20 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 16:55:13 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 08:55:15 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 02:32:16 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: John H. wrote: On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 15:39:06 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 20:08:35 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: We didn't really have guard duty, we had fire watch. I remember my first night there I saw a guy wearing a cartridge belt walking around and thinking he was a guard. My first thought was "I could take that guy". A couple nights later I was wearing the cartridge belt and walking around ;-) Same thick with air force. They explained making you wear the cartridge belt made you under arms and more liable if you screw up. There were not any live rounds on our side of the base and our drill rifles did not have firing pins in them. I am not quite sure what arms we were under. ;-) We had the belt. That was all. We wore the belt, canteen, ammo pouches and toted a real M-14...but no ammo. Air Force basic we only handled firearms on two days of 6 weeks. One day of inside, raining, safety and dry fire. Next day at range. In pouring rain. I'm thinking we spent about 3 weeks on weapons training - assembly, disassembly, and cleaning; the manual of arms; actual firing and qualifying with the weapon, bayonet drill... === So what's the spirit of the bayonet? Even Google knows the answer to that one. :-) Let me guess ... "Stab him, Stab him NOW!" We never had bayonets. Our plan was to start shooting at them about 12,000 yards out with the 5", then open up with the M2s if they got inside 500-1000 yards and prepare to ram. ;-) Lucky you. I'll bet you didn't have to clean the mud off your boots and then spit shine them for the next morning's inspection either. I love these new Army boots - no shining. Brush the mud off and good to go. We had our own fun. The "boondockers" we had were not just hugh top shoes like the Navy used. They gave us steel toed engineer boots that came with some kind of oiled finish that we had to get off before we started the spit shine process. They still wanted the spit shined tho. Once I got to the Navy school I found out those guys were OK with a shoe shine out of a bottle if you were careful laying it on. There was a little bit of a trick getting it on without streaks but it was still far faster than spit shining. I had 2 pairs of shoes. One was Kiwi, stored stuffed into white cotton boot socks, one was bottle shine, just in case someone changed their mind. At tech school, some bought the Corfam Boots. Come shining. Just do not scratch the finish. Did not come in my size, 14. After OCS I invested in Corfam low-quarters. Couldn't wear them before that. Always wore the Corcoran jump boots. They were easier to spit shine than the Army issue boots. I was really happy when I got away from boot camp. That was the last place where spit shined shoes were expected of us. They just needed to be "business" shiny. My go to for that was always the bottle after I learned how to "paint". On the ship, if your boots were too shiny they asked you where you were sleeping all day. You did need a reasonable shine on your shoes to get past the quarterdeck for liberty but they didn't go nuts about it. Like I said a "business" shine, what a boss would expect in a customer contact job. |
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#64
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On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 15:51:11 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 15:20:16 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 18:19:05 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 05:45:00 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 20:09:20 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 16:55:13 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 08:55:15 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 02:32:16 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: John H. wrote: On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 15:39:06 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 20:08:35 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: We didn't really have guard duty, we had fire watch. I remember my first night there I saw a guy wearing a cartridge belt walking around and thinking he was a guard. My first thought was "I could take that guy". A couple nights later I was wearing the cartridge belt and walking around ;-) Same thick with air force. They explained making you wear the cartridge belt made you under arms and more liable if you screw up. There were not any live rounds on our side of the base and our drill rifles did not have firing pins in them. I am not quite sure what arms we were under. ;-) We had the belt. That was all. We wore the belt, canteen, ammo pouches and toted a real M-14...but no ammo. Air Force basic we only handled firearms on two days of 6 weeks. One day of inside, raining, safety and dry fire. Next day at range. In pouring rain. I'm thinking we spent about 3 weeks on weapons training - assembly, disassembly, and cleaning; the manual of arms; actual firing and qualifying with the weapon, bayonet drill... === So what's the spirit of the bayonet? Even Google knows the answer to that one. :-) Let me guess ... "Stab him, Stab him NOW!" We never had bayonets. Our plan was to start shooting at them about 12,000 yards out with the 5", then open up with the M2s if they got inside 500-1000 yards and prepare to ram. ;-) Lucky you. I'll bet you didn't have to clean the mud off your boots and then spit shine them for the next morning's inspection either. I love these new Army boots - no shining. Brush the mud off and good to go. We had our own fun. The "boondockers" we had were not just hugh top shoes like the Navy used. They gave us steel toed engineer boots that came with some kind of oiled finish that we had to get off before we started the spit shine process. They still wanted the spit shined tho. Once I got to the Navy school I found out those guys were OK with a shoe shine out of a bottle if you were careful laying it on. There was a little bit of a trick getting it on without streaks but it was still far faster than spit shining. I had 2 pairs of shoes. One was Kiwi, stored stuffed into white cotton boot socks, one was bottle shine, just in case someone changed their mind. At tech school, some bought the Corfam Boots. Come shining. Just do not scratch the finish. Did not come in my size, 14. After OCS I invested in Corfam low-quarters. Couldn't wear them before that. Always wore the Corcoran jump boots. They were easier to spit shine than the Army issue boots. I was really happy when I got away from boot camp. That was the last place where spit shined shoes were expected of us. They just needed to be "business" shiny. My go to for that was always the bottle after I learned how to "paint". On the ship, if your boots were too shiny they asked you where you were sleeping all day. You did need a reasonable shine on your shoes to get past the quarterdeck for liberty but they didn't go nuts about it. Like I said a "business" shine, what a boss would expect in a customer contact job. Yeah but, I was the one doing the asking, so I had to keep 'em looking halfway good. |
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#65
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John H. wrote:
On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 15:51:11 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 15:20:16 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 18:19:05 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 05:45:00 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 20:09:20 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 16:55:13 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 08:55:15 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 02:32:16 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: John H. wrote: On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 15:39:06 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 20:08:35 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: We didn't really have guard duty, we had fire watch. I remember my first night there I saw a guy wearing a cartridge belt walking around and thinking he was a guard. My first thought was "I could take that guy". A couple nights later I was wearing the cartridge belt and walking around ;-) Same thick with air force. They explained making you wear the cartridge belt made you under arms and more liable if you screw up. There were not any live rounds on our side of the base and our drill rifles did not have firing pins in them. I am not quite sure what arms we were under. ;-) We had the belt. That was all. We wore the belt, canteen, ammo pouches and toted a real M-14...but no ammo. Air Force basic we only handled firearms on two days of 6 weeks. One day of inside, raining, safety and dry fire. Next day at range. In pouring rain. I'm thinking we spent about 3 weeks on weapons training - assembly, disassembly, and cleaning; the manual of arms; actual firing and qualifying with the weapon, bayonet drill... === So what's the spirit of the bayonet? Even Google knows the answer to that one. :-) Let me guess ... "Stab him, Stab him NOW!" We never had bayonets. Our plan was to start shooting at them about 12,000 yards out with the 5", then open up with the M2s if they got inside 500-1000 yards and prepare to ram. ;-) Lucky you. I'll bet you didn't have to clean the mud off your boots and then spit shine them for the next morning's inspection either. I love these new Army boots - no shining. Brush the mud off and good to go. We had our own fun. The "boondockers" we had were not just hugh top shoes like the Navy used. They gave us steel toed engineer boots that came with some kind of oiled finish that we had to get off before we started the spit shine process. They still wanted the spit shined tho. Once I got to the Navy school I found out those guys were OK with a shoe shine out of a bottle if you were careful laying it on. There was a little bit of a trick getting it on without streaks but it was still far faster than spit shining. I had 2 pairs of shoes. One was Kiwi, stored stuffed into white cotton boot socks, one was bottle shine, just in case someone changed their mind. At tech school, some bought the Corfam Boots. Come shining. Just do not scratch the finish. Did not come in my size, 14. After OCS I invested in Corfam low-quarters. Couldn't wear them before that. Always wore the Corcoran jump boots. They were easier to spit shine than the Army issue boots. I was really happy when I got away from boot camp. That was the last place where spit shined shoes were expected of us. They just needed to be "business" shiny. My go to for that was always the bottle after I learned how to "paint". On the ship, if your boots were too shiny they asked you where you were sleeping all day. You did need a reasonable shine on your shoes to get past the quarterdeck for liberty but they didn't go nuts about it. Like I said a "business" shine, what a boss would expect in a customer contact job. Yeah but, I was the one doing the asking, so I had to keep 'em looking halfway good. I was told pretty much for 29 weeks to work on my boots. |
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#66
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On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 21:20:17 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:
John H. wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 15:51:11 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 15:20:16 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 18:19:05 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 05:45:00 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 20:09:20 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 16:55:13 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 08:55:15 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 02:32:16 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: John H. wrote: On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 15:39:06 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 20:08:35 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: We didn't really have guard duty, we had fire watch. I remember my first night there I saw a guy wearing a cartridge belt walking around and thinking he was a guard. My first thought was "I could take that guy". A couple nights later I was wearing the cartridge belt and walking around ;-) Same thick with air force. They explained making you wear the cartridge belt made you under arms and more liable if you screw up. There were not any live rounds on our side of the base and our drill rifles did not have firing pins in them. I am not quite sure what arms we were under. ;-) We had the belt. That was all. We wore the belt, canteen, ammo pouches and toted a real M-14...but no ammo. Air Force basic we only handled firearms on two days of 6 weeks. One day of inside, raining, safety and dry fire. Next day at range. In pouring rain. I'm thinking we spent about 3 weeks on weapons training - assembly, disassembly, and cleaning; the manual of arms; actual firing and qualifying with the weapon, bayonet drill... === So what's the spirit of the bayonet? Even Google knows the answer to that one. :-) Let me guess ... "Stab him, Stab him NOW!" We never had bayonets. Our plan was to start shooting at them about 12,000 yards out with the 5", then open up with the M2s if they got inside 500-1000 yards and prepare to ram. ;-) Lucky you. I'll bet you didn't have to clean the mud off your boots and then spit shine them for the next morning's inspection either. I love these new Army boots - no shining. Brush the mud off and good to go. We had our own fun. The "boondockers" we had were not just hugh top shoes like the Navy used. They gave us steel toed engineer boots that came with some kind of oiled finish that we had to get off before we started the spit shine process. They still wanted the spit shined tho. Once I got to the Navy school I found out those guys were OK with a shoe shine out of a bottle if you were careful laying it on. There was a little bit of a trick getting it on without streaks but it was still far faster than spit shining. I had 2 pairs of shoes. One was Kiwi, stored stuffed into white cotton boot socks, one was bottle shine, just in case someone changed their mind. At tech school, some bought the Corfam Boots. Come shining. Just do not scratch the finish. Did not come in my size, 14. After OCS I invested in Corfam low-quarters. Couldn't wear them before that. Always wore the Corcoran jump boots. They were easier to spit shine than the Army issue boots. I was really happy when I got away from boot camp. That was the last place where spit shined shoes were expected of us. They just needed to be "business" shiny. My go to for that was always the bottle after I learned how to "paint". On the ship, if your boots were too shiny they asked you where you were sleeping all day. You did need a reasonable shine on your shoes to get past the quarterdeck for liberty but they didn't go nuts about it. Like I said a "business" shine, what a boss would expect in a customer contact job. Yeah but, I was the one doing the asking, so I had to keep 'em looking halfway good. I was told pretty much for 29 weeks to work on my boots. LOL! |
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#67
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On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 15:51:11 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 15:20:16 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 18:19:05 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 05:45:00 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 20:09:20 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 16:55:13 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 08:55:15 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 02:32:16 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: John H. wrote: On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 15:39:06 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 20:08:35 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: We didn't really have guard duty, we had fire watch. I remember my first night there I saw a guy wearing a cartridge belt walking around and thinking he was a guard. My first thought was "I could take that guy". A couple nights later I was wearing the cartridge belt and walking around ;-) Same thick with air force. They explained making you wear the cartridge belt made you under arms and more liable if you screw up. There were not any live rounds on our side of the base and our drill rifles did not have firing pins in them. I am not quite sure what arms we were under. ;-) We had the belt. That was all. We wore the belt, canteen, ammo pouches and toted a real M-14...but no ammo. Air Force basic we only handled firearms on two days of 6 weeks. One day of inside, raining, safety and dry fire. Next day at range. In pouring rain. I'm thinking we spent about 3 weeks on weapons training - assembly, disassembly, and cleaning; the manual of arms; actual firing and qualifying with the weapon, bayonet drill... === So what's the spirit of the bayonet? Even Google knows the answer to that one. :-) Let me guess ... "Stab him, Stab him NOW!" We never had bayonets. Our plan was to start shooting at them about 12,000 yards out with the 5", then open up with the M2s if they got inside 500-1000 yards and prepare to ram. ;-) Lucky you. I'll bet you didn't have to clean the mud off your boots and then spit shine them for the next morning's inspection either. I love these new Army boots - no shining. Brush the mud off and good to go. We had our own fun. The "boondockers" we had were not just hugh top shoes like the Navy used. They gave us steel toed engineer boots that came with some kind of oiled finish that we had to get off before we started the spit shine process. They still wanted the spit shined tho. Once I got to the Navy school I found out those guys were OK with a shoe shine out of a bottle if you were careful laying it on. There was a little bit of a trick getting it on without streaks but it was still far faster than spit shining. I had 2 pairs of shoes. One was Kiwi, stored stuffed into white cotton boot socks, one was bottle shine, just in case someone changed their mind. At tech school, some bought the Corfam Boots. Come shining. Just do not scratch the finish. Did not come in my size, 14. After OCS I invested in Corfam low-quarters. Couldn't wear them before that. Always wore the Corcoran jump boots. They were easier to spit shine than the Army issue boots. I was really happy when I got away from boot camp. That was the last place where spit shined shoes were expected of us. They just needed to be "business" shiny. My go to for that was always the bottle after I learned how to "paint". On the ship, if your boots were too shiny they asked you where you were sleeping all day. You did need a reasonable shine on your shoes to get past the quarterdeck for liberty but they didn't go nuts about it. Like I said a "business" shine, what a boss would expect in a customer contact job. === Oh, you mean IBM wing tips. :-) |
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#68
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On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 21:20:17 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: John H. wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 15:51:11 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 15:20:16 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 18:19:05 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 05:45:00 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 20:09:20 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 16:55:13 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 08:55:15 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 02:32:16 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: John H. wrote: On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 15:39:06 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 20:08:35 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: We didn't really have guard duty, we had fire watch. I remember my first night there I saw a guy wearing a cartridge belt walking around and thinking he was a guard. My first thought was "I could take that guy". A couple nights later I was wearing the cartridge belt and walking around ;-) Same thick with air force. They explained making you wear the cartridge belt made you under arms and more liable if you screw up. There were not any live rounds on our side of the base and our drill rifles did not have firing pins in them. I am not quite sure what arms we were under. ;-) We had the belt. That was all. We wore the belt, canteen, ammo pouches and toted a real M-14...but no ammo. Air Force basic we only handled firearms on two days of 6 weeks. One day of inside, raining, safety and dry fire. Next day at range. In pouring rain. I'm thinking we spent about 3 weeks on weapons training - assembly, disassembly, and cleaning; the manual of arms; actual firing and qualifying with the weapon, bayonet drill... === So what's the spirit of the bayonet? Even Google knows the answer to that one. :-) Let me guess ... "Stab him, Stab him NOW!" We never had bayonets. Our plan was to start shooting at them about 12,000 yards out with the 5", then open up with the M2s if they got inside 500-1000 yards and prepare to ram. ;-) Lucky you. I'll bet you didn't have to clean the mud off your boots and then spit shine them for the next morning's inspection either. I love these new Army boots - no shining. Brush the mud off and good to go. We had our own fun. The "boondockers" we had were not just hugh top shoes like the Navy used. They gave us steel toed engineer boots that came with some kind of oiled finish that we had to get off before we started the spit shine process. They still wanted the spit shined tho. Once I got to the Navy school I found out those guys were OK with a shoe shine out of a bottle if you were careful laying it on. There was a little bit of a trick getting it on without streaks but it was still far faster than spit shining. I had 2 pairs of shoes. One was Kiwi, stored stuffed into white cotton boot socks, one was bottle shine, just in case someone changed their mind. At tech school, some bought the Corfam Boots. Come shining. Just do not scratch the finish. Did not come in my size, 14. After OCS I invested in Corfam low-quarters. Couldn't wear them before that. Always wore the Corcoran jump boots. They were easier to spit shine than the Army issue boots. I was really happy when I got away from boot camp. That was the last place where spit shined shoes were expected of us. They just needed to be "business" shiny. My go to for that was always the bottle after I learned how to "paint". On the ship, if your boots were too shiny they asked you where you were sleeping all day. You did need a reasonable shine on your shoes to get past the quarterdeck for liberty but they didn't go nuts about it. Like I said a "business" shine, what a boss would expect in a customer contact job. Yeah but, I was the one doing the asking, so I had to keep 'em looking halfway good. I was told pretty much for 29 weeks to work on my boots. === I learned early on in boot camp that there were two ways to avoid being picked for a work detail: 1) Be spit shining your boots; or 2) Be writing a letter home. |
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#69
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 21:20:17 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: John H. wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 15:51:11 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 15:20:16 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 18:19:05 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 05:45:00 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 20:09:20 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 16:55:13 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 08:55:15 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 02:32:16 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: John H. wrote: On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 15:39:06 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 20:08:35 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: We didn't really have guard duty, we had fire watch. I remember my first night there I saw a guy wearing a cartridge belt walking around and thinking he was a guard. My first thought was "I could take that guy". A couple nights later I was wearing the cartridge belt and walking around ;-) Same thick with air force. They explained making you wear the cartridge belt made you under arms and more liable if you screw up. There were not any live rounds on our side of the base and our drill rifles did not have firing pins in them. I am not quite sure what arms we were under. ;-) We had the belt. That was all. We wore the belt, canteen, ammo pouches and toted a real M-14...but no ammo. Air Force basic we only handled firearms on two days of 6 weeks. One day of inside, raining, safety and dry fire. Next day at range. In pouring rain. I'm thinking we spent about 3 weeks on weapons training - assembly, disassembly, and cleaning; the manual of arms; actual firing and qualifying with the weapon, bayonet drill... === So what's the spirit of the bayonet? Even Google knows the answer to that one. :-) Let me guess ... "Stab him, Stab him NOW!" We never had bayonets. Our plan was to start shooting at them about 12,000 yards out with the 5", then open up with the M2s if they got inside 500-1000 yards and prepare to ram. ;-) Lucky you. I'll bet you didn't have to clean the mud off your boots and then spit shine them for the next morning's inspection either. I love these new Army boots - no shining. Brush the mud off and good to go. We had our own fun. The "boondockers" we had were not just hugh top shoes like the Navy used. They gave us steel toed engineer boots that came with some kind of oiled finish that we had to get off before we started the spit shine process. They still wanted the spit shined tho. Once I got to the Navy school I found out those guys were OK with a shoe shine out of a bottle if you were careful laying it on. There was a little bit of a trick getting it on without streaks but it was still far faster than spit shining. I had 2 pairs of shoes. One was Kiwi, stored stuffed into white cotton boot socks, one was bottle shine, just in case someone changed their mind. At tech school, some bought the Corfam Boots. Come shining. Just do not scratch the finish. Did not come in my size, 14. After OCS I invested in Corfam low-quarters. Couldn't wear them before that. Always wore the Corcoran jump boots. They were easier to spit shine than the Army issue boots. I was really happy when I got away from boot camp. That was the last place where spit shined shoes were expected of us. They just needed to be "business" shiny. My go to for that was always the bottle after I learned how to "paint". On the ship, if your boots were too shiny they asked you where you were sleeping all day. You did need a reasonable shine on your shoes to get past the quarterdeck for liberty but they didn't go nuts about it. Like I said a "business" shine, what a boss would expect in a customer contact job. Yeah but, I was the one doing the asking, so I had to keep 'em looking halfway good. I was told pretty much for 29 weeks to work on my boots. === I learned early on in boot camp that there were two ways to avoid being picked for a work detail: 1) Be spit shining your boots; or 2) Be writing a letter home. The 29 weeks was Keesler tech school |
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Kinda proud ....
On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 19:38:32 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 15:51:11 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 15:20:16 -0400, John H. wrote: On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 18:19:05 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 05:45:00 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 20:09:20 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 16:55:13 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 08:55:15 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 02:32:16 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: John H. wrote: On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 15:39:06 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 20:08:35 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: We didn't really have guard duty, we had fire watch. I remember my first night there I saw a guy wearing a cartridge belt walking around and thinking he was a guard. My first thought was "I could take that guy". A couple nights later I was wearing the cartridge belt and walking around ;-) Same thick with air force. They explained making you wear the cartridge belt made you under arms and more liable if you screw up. There were not any live rounds on our side of the base and our drill rifles did not have firing pins in them. I am not quite sure what arms we were under. ;-) We had the belt. That was all. We wore the belt, canteen, ammo pouches and toted a real M-14...but no ammo. Air Force basic we only handled firearms on two days of 6 weeks. One day of inside, raining, safety and dry fire. Next day at range. In pouring rain. I'm thinking we spent about 3 weeks on weapons training - assembly, disassembly, and cleaning; the manual of arms; actual firing and qualifying with the weapon, bayonet drill... === So what's the spirit of the bayonet? Even Google knows the answer to that one. :-) Let me guess ... "Stab him, Stab him NOW!" We never had bayonets. Our plan was to start shooting at them about 12,000 yards out with the 5", then open up with the M2s if they got inside 500-1000 yards and prepare to ram. ;-) Lucky you. I'll bet you didn't have to clean the mud off your boots and then spit shine them for the next morning's inspection either. I love these new Army boots - no shining. Brush the mud off and good to go. We had our own fun. The "boondockers" we had were not just hugh top shoes like the Navy used. They gave us steel toed engineer boots that came with some kind of oiled finish that we had to get off before we started the spit shine process. They still wanted the spit shined tho. Once I got to the Navy school I found out those guys were OK with a shoe shine out of a bottle if you were careful laying it on. There was a little bit of a trick getting it on without streaks but it was still far faster than spit shining. I had 2 pairs of shoes. One was Kiwi, stored stuffed into white cotton boot socks, one was bottle shine, just in case someone changed their mind. At tech school, some bought the Corfam Boots. Come shining. Just do not scratch the finish. Did not come in my size, 14. After OCS I invested in Corfam low-quarters. Couldn't wear them before that. Always wore the Corcoran jump boots. They were easier to spit shine than the Army issue boots. I was really happy when I got away from boot camp. That was the last place where spit shined shoes were expected of us. They just needed to be "business" shiny. My go to for that was always the bottle after I learned how to "paint". On the ship, if your boots were too shiny they asked you where you were sleeping all day. You did need a reasonable shine on your shoes to get past the quarterdeck for liberty but they didn't go nuts about it. Like I said a "business" shine, what a boss would expect in a customer contact job. === Oh, you mean IBM wing tips. :-) Well that kind of thing although I am not sure I ever saw a CE in "14 pound wing tips". I started out in my Hush Puppies and I was OK in Bethesda but I had to buy shoes my first day in Endicott. The instructor said "no bedroom slippers here". He was still unhappy that I bought a slip on shoe but at least it was shiny black leather so he couldn't really gripe much. About a year in I started wearing side zipper boots and I retired in them. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Retirement%...%20charlie.jpg |
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