....Flake did...from CNN...

1. Flake voted for Kavanaugh to move out of the committee. But he also
made clear that he would not vote for Kavanaugh on the Senate floor
without an FBI investigation of the sexual assault allegation against
him -- an accusation that the nominee has vehemently denied.

2. In a vacuum, that doesn't mean much. If Republicans only lost Flake,
they would have 50 votes in favor of Kavanaugh's confirmation when the
scheduled vote would happen on Tuesday. That would allow Vice President
Mike Pence to break the tie, and Kavanaugh would be confirmed.

3. But Flake -- as well as Minnesota Democratic Sen. Amy Klobuchar --
suggested in the moments before the 11-10 vote that there were other
Republicans who felt the same as Flake. As in, they would not support
Kavanaugh's confirmation unless and until the FBI investigation happens.
Those senators are, presumably, Susan Collins of Maine and Lisa
Murkowski of Alaska.

4. None of what Flake did was binding -- until the White House and
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell weighed in. McConnell formally
requested the White House to instruct the FBI to do supplemental
background check, which "would be limited to current credible
allegations against the nominee and must be completed no later than one
week from today."

The Senate Judiciary Committee announcement means that McConnell, as
expected, has bowed to the fact that he does not currently have the
votes. Presumably, Flake would not have a) made the one-week FBI
investigation request and then b) voted for Kavanaugh to move favorably
out of committee unless c) he knew that he had Murkowski and/or Collins
(or some other Republican) was with him. (Murkowski confirmed to
reporters after the session that she supports Flake's proposal.)

On 9/28/2018 8:10 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
...Flake did...from CNN...

1. Flake voted for Kavanaugh to move out of the committee. But he also
made clear that he would not vote for Kavanaugh on the Senate floor
without an FBI investigation of the sexual assault allegation against
him -- an accusation that the nominee has vehemently denied.

2. In a vacuum, that doesn't mean much. If Republicans only lost Flake,
they would have 50 votes in favor of Kavanaugh's confirmation when the
scheduled vote would happen on Tuesday. That would allow Vice President
Mike Pence to break the tie, and Kavanaugh would be confirmed.

3. But Flake -- as well as Minnesota Democratic Sen. Amy Klobuchar --
suggested in the moments before the 11-10 vote that there were other
Republicans who felt the same as Flake. As in, they would not support
Kavanaugh's confirmation unless and until the FBI investigation happens.
Those senators are, presumably, Susan Collins of Maine and Lisa
Murkowski of Alaska.

4. None of what Flake did was binding -- until the White House and
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell weighed in. McConnell formally
requested the White House to instruct the FBI to do supplemental
background check, which "would be limited to current credible
allegations against the nominee and must be completed no later than one
week from today."

The Senate Judiciary Committee announcement means that McConnell, as
expected, has bowed to the fact that he does not currently have the
votes. Presumably, Flake would not have a) made the one-week FBI
investigation request and then b) voted for Kavanaugh to move favorably
out of committee unless c) he knew that he had Murkowski and/or Collins
(or some other Republican) was with him. (Murkowski confirmed to
reporters after the session that she supports Flake's proposal.)


Trump has directed the FBI to conduct the "investigation" under the
conditions Flake requested and as outlined in your paragraph (4) above.

A growing number of Dems are already demanding that no specific time
frame should apply and the investigation be not limited to current
credible allegations.

How many more accusations do you think will arise in the coming days?
I am sure the Dems are already hard at work arranging for some.

Oh... and it's not a criminal investigation. FBI can't do that.
It's a "supplemental" background check. In other words, the FBI
will most likely feed back information that the Judicatory Committee
already had and went over and over and over and over .....

Some regard this is an assurance of getting the necessary Republican
votes when the floor vote is finally taken. Flake will be an "aye" and
it will likely influence the other 2 Republicans on the fence to
vote "aye", guarantying Kavanaugh's confirmation.

The current crop of sitting Democrats will then go down in history
as the nastiest, sleaziest and most despicable group of politicians in
American history.

Well done.

On 9/28/2018 8:10 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
...Flake did...from CNN...

1. Flake voted for Kavanaugh to move out of the committee. But he also
made clear that he would not vote for Kavanaugh on the Senate floor
without an FBI investigation of the sexual assault allegation against
him -- an accusation that the nominee has vehemently denied.

2. In a vacuum, that doesn't mean much. If Republicans only lost Flake,
they would have 50 votes in favor of Kavanaugh's confirmation when the
scheduled vote would happen on Tuesday. That would allow Vice President
Mike Pence to break the tie, and Kavanaugh would be confirmed.

3. But Flake -- as well as Minnesota Democratic Sen. Amy Klobuchar --
suggested in the moments before the 11-10 vote that there were other
Republicans who felt the same as Flake. As in, they would not support
Kavanaugh's confirmation unless and until the FBI investigation happens.
Those senators are, presumably, Susan Collins of Maine and Lisa
Murkowski of Alaska.

4. None of what Flake did was binding -- until the White House and
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell weighed in. McConnell formally
requested the White House to instruct the FBI to do supplemental
background check, which "would be limited to current credible
allegations against the nominee and must be completed no later than one
week from today."

The Senate Judiciary Committee announcement means that McConnell, as
expected, has bowed to the fact that he does not currently have the
votes. Presumably, Flake would not have a) made the one-week FBI
investigation request and then b) voted for Kavanaugh to move favorably
out of committee unless c) he knew that he had Murkowski and/or Collins
(or some other Republican) was with him. (Murkowski confirmed to
reporters after the session that she supports Flake's proposal.)


I am still chuckling over Lindsey Graham's comment to the reporters,
"somebody's going to have to go explain this to Trump".

You may not like his politics but he *is* funny sometimes.

Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
Trump has directed the FBI to conduct the "investigation" under the
conditions Flake requested and as outlined in your paragraph (4) above.

A growing number of Dems are already demanding that no specific time
frame should apply and the investigation be not limited to current
credible allegations.

How many more accusations do you think will arise in the coming days?
I am sure the Dems are already hard at work arranging for some.

Oh... and it's not a criminal investigation. FBI can't do that.
It's a "supplemental" background check. In other words, the FBI
will most likely feed back information that the Judicatory Committee
already had and went over and over and over and over .....

Some regard this is an assurance of getting the necessary Republican
votes when the floor vote is finally taken. Flake will be an "aye" and
it will likely influence the other 2 Republicans on the fence to
vote "aye", guarantying Kavanaugh's confirmation.

The current crop of sitting Democrats will then go down in history
as the nastiest, sleaziest and most despicable group of politicians in
American history.

Well done.

...........,.

I feel like if you demand to have an FBI investigation on the judge, you should also be ready to comply to have one done in yourself...

“What’s good for the goose...�

On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 20:10:35 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

...Flake did...from CNN...

1. Flake voted for Kavanaugh to move out of the committee. But he also
made clear that he would not vote for Kavanaugh on the Senate floor
without an FBI investigation of the sexual assault allegation against
him -- an accusation that the nominee has vehemently denied.

2. In a vacuum, that doesn't mean much. If Republicans only lost Flake,
they would have 50 votes in favor of Kavanaugh's confirmation when the
scheduled vote would happen on Tuesday. That would allow Vice President
Mike Pence to break the tie, and Kavanaugh would be confirmed.

3. But Flake -- as well as Minnesota Democratic Sen. Amy Klobuchar --
suggested in the moments before the 11-10 vote that there were other
Republicans who felt the same as Flake. As in, they would not support
Kavanaugh's confirmation unless and until the FBI investigation happens.
Those senators are, presumably, Susan Collins of Maine and Lisa
Murkowski of Alaska.

4. None of what Flake did was binding -- until the White House and
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell weighed in. McConnell formally
requested the White House to instruct the FBI to do supplemental
background check, which "would be limited to current credible
allegations against the nominee and must be completed no later than one
week from today."

The Senate Judiciary Committee announcement means that McConnell, as
expected, has bowed to the fact that he does not currently have the
votes. Presumably, Flake would not have a) made the one-week FBI
investigation request and then b) voted for Kavanaugh to move favorably
out of committee unless c) he knew that he had Murkowski and/or Collins
(or some other Republican) was with him. (Murkowski confirmed to
reporters after the session that she supports Flake's proposal.)

I am not sure what they have to investigate. I suppose they can re
interview all of the people who have surfaced and ask if they lied but
beyond that, with no details of where, when and who, what's to
investigate?
Without some huge smoking gun out of nowhere, Kavanaugh will die as a
SCOTUS judge, long after we are worm food.
One thing about an FBI investigation is that innuendo and
uncorroborated testimony doesn't mean much. They like evidence.

On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 20:31:04 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/28/2018 8:10 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
...Flake did...from CNN...

1. Flake voted for Kavanaugh to move out of the committee. But he also
made clear that he would not vote for Kavanaugh on the Senate floor
without an FBI investigation of the sexual assault allegation against
him -- an accusation that the nominee has vehemently denied.

2. In a vacuum, that doesn't mean much. If Republicans only lost Flake,
they would have 50 votes in favor of Kavanaugh's confirmation when the
scheduled vote would happen on Tuesday. That would allow Vice President
Mike Pence to break the tie, and Kavanaugh would be confirmed.

3. But Flake -- as well as Minnesota Democratic Sen. Amy Klobuchar --
suggested in the moments before the 11-10 vote that there were other
Republicans who felt the same as Flake. As in, they would not support
Kavanaugh's confirmation unless and until the FBI investigation happens.
Those senators are, presumably, Susan Collins of Maine and Lisa
Murkowski of Alaska.

4. None of what Flake did was binding -- until the White House and
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell weighed in. McConnell formally
requested the White House to instruct the FBI to do supplemental
background check, which "would be limited to current credible
allegations against the nominee and must be completed no later than one
week from today."

The Senate Judiciary Committee announcement means that McConnell, as
expected, has bowed to the fact that he does not currently have the
votes. Presumably, Flake would not have a) made the one-week FBI
investigation request and then b) voted for Kavanaugh to move favorably
out of committee unless c) he knew that he had Murkowski and/or Collins
(or some other Republican) was with him. (Murkowski confirmed to
reporters after the session that she supports Flake's proposal.)


Trump has directed the FBI to conduct the "investigation" under the
conditions Flake requested and as outlined in your paragraph (4) above.

A growing number of Dems are already demanding that no specific time
frame should apply and the investigation be not limited to current
credible allegations.

How many more accusations do you think will arise in the coming days?
I am sure the Dems are already hard at work arranging for some.

Oh... and it's not a criminal investigation. FBI can't do that.
It's a "supplemental" background check. In other words, the FBI
will most likely feed back information that the Judicatory Committee
already had and went over and over and over and over .....

Some regard this is an assurance of getting the necessary Republican
votes when the floor vote is finally taken. Flake will be an "aye" and
it will likely influence the other 2 Republicans on the fence to
vote "aye", guarantying Kavanaugh's confirmation.

The current crop of sitting Democrats will then go down in history
as the nastiest, sleaziest and most despicable group of politicians in
American history.

Well done.


It does make me wonder what will happen when Trump sends Barrett up
for the next seat that comes open.
The court might even get too lopsided for me ;-)
I hope we get some real constitutionalists.

On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 22:41:03 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 20:10:35 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

...Flake did...from CNN...

1. Flake voted for Kavanaugh to move out of the committee. But he also
made clear that he would not vote for Kavanaugh on the Senate floor
without an FBI investigation of the sexual assault allegation against
him -- an accusation that the nominee has vehemently denied.

2. In a vacuum, that doesn't mean much. If Republicans only lost Flake,
they would have 50 votes in favor of Kavanaugh's confirmation when the
scheduled vote would happen on Tuesday. That would allow Vice President
Mike Pence to break the tie, and Kavanaugh would be confirmed.

3. But Flake -- as well as Minnesota Democratic Sen. Amy Klobuchar --
suggested in the moments before the 11-10 vote that there were other
Republicans who felt the same as Flake. As in, they would not support
Kavanaugh's confirmation unless and until the FBI investigation happens.
Those senators are, presumably, Susan Collins of Maine and Lisa
Murkowski of Alaska.

4. None of what Flake did was binding -- until the White House and
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell weighed in. McConnell formally
requested the White House to instruct the FBI to do supplemental
background check, which "would be limited to current credible
allegations against the nominee and must be completed no later than one
week from today."

The Senate Judiciary Committee announcement means that McConnell, as
expected, has bowed to the fact that he does not currently have the
votes. Presumably, Flake would not have a) made the one-week FBI
investigation request and then b) voted for Kavanaugh to move favorably
out of committee unless c) he knew that he had Murkowski and/or Collins
(or some other Republican) was with him. (Murkowski confirmed to
reporters after the session that she supports Flake's proposal.)

I am not sure what they have to investigate. I suppose they can re
interview all of the people who have surfaced and ask if they lied but
beyond that, with no details of where, when and who, what's to
investigate?
Without some huge smoking gun out of nowhere, Kavanaugh will die as a
SCOTUS judge, long after we are worm food.
One thing about an FBI investigation is that innuendo and
uncorroborated testimony doesn't mean much. They like evidence.

Maybe Kavanaugh has a 'blue dress' hidden away somewhere.