On 10/4/2018 1:15 PM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 20:45:34 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 16:27:49 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 07:40:41 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/3/2018 7:02 AM, John H. wrote:

https://www.rideapart.com/articles/2...termot-reveal/

Finally a Moto Guzzi with lines and ergonomics I like - except for that short windscreen. But, maybe
it's got another six inches of adjustment.



I am surprised that air-cooled motorcycles can still meet emission
standards that continue to become tighter year by year.

The emission standards are becoming more stringent for motorcycles sold
in Europe as well as the USA.

Liquid cooled engines are easier to "tune" for emission control
due to their more uniform operating temperature.

I expect the Guzzi's are 'de-tuned' to meet American emission standards. My 1989 Mille is
carbureted, but came with the 'US jetting', which didn't help performance at all. Right after buying
it I replaced the jets with the European jets, put different air filters and exhaust on it, and the
thing is much, much improved.

On the Moto Guzzi groups, folks are already talking about putting new chips in their computers for
better performance. Motorcycles aren't emissions tested, at least in Virginia, like cars are. So
improvements made after the fact don't get caught.

Al Gore is going to get you.

We actually do not get inspected at all but all of my stuff is
unaltered and is not throwing codes so I would pass the test.
I doubt any of my old 70's HD "shovels" would pass much of an emission
test tho.


We have an annual safety inspection for motorcycles just as we do for autos.


Same here. A scan of the OBD is required for autos and trucks. Safety
inspection for motorcycles only. (so far).

I was very surprised when I bought and registered a little truck in
Florida that no safety or emissions tests were required.

Massachusetts put a new law on the books that took effect last year.
All inspection stations must have video cameras in the inspection
bay that can be monitored by the RMV whenever an inspection
is taking place. They are checking for any violations of the inspection
process and that all checks are done as required like jacking up the
front end and checking ball joints, etc. You even have to remove any
kind of license plate frame you may have installed to ensure the plate
number is legible when viewed by the camera.

Lots of complaints about this. Nobody can cheat anymore.

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/4/2018 1:15 PM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 20:45:34 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 16:27:49 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 07:40:41 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/3/2018 7:02 AM, John H. wrote:

https://www.rideapart.com/articles/2...termot-reveal/

Finally a Moto Guzzi with lines and ergonomics I like - except for
that short windscreen. But, maybe
it's got another six inches of adjustment.



I am surprised that air-cooled motorcycles can still meet emission
standards that continue to become tighter year by year.

The emission standards are becoming more stringent for motorcycles sold
in Europe as well as the USA.

Liquid cooled engines are easier to "tune" for emission control
due to their more uniform operating temperature.

I expect the Guzzi's are 'de-tuned' to meet American emission
standards. My 1989 Mille is
carbureted, but came with the 'US
jetting', which didn't help performance at all. Right after buying
it I replaced the jets with the European jets, put different air
filters and exhaust on it, and the
thing is much, much improved.

On the Moto Guzzi groups, folks are already talking about putting new
chips in their computers for
better performance. Motorcycles aren't emissions tested, at least in
Virginia, like cars are. So
improvements made after the fact don't get caught.

Al Gore is going to get you.

We actually do not get inspected at all but all of my stuff is
unaltered and is not throwing codes so I would pass the test.
I doubt any of my old 70's HD "shovels" would pass much of an emission
test tho.


We have an annual safety inspection for motorcycles just as we do for autos.


Same here. A scan of the OBD is required for autos and trucks. Safety
inspection for motorcycles only. (so far).

I was very surprised when I bought and registered a little truck in
Florida that no safety or emissions tests were required.

Massachusetts put a new law on the books that took effect last year.
All inspection stations must have video cameras in the inspection
bay that can be monitored by the RMV whenever an inspection
is taking place. They are checking for any violations of the inspection
process and that all checks are done as required like jacking up the
front end and checking ball joints, etc. You even have to remove any
kind of license plate frame you may have installed to ensure the plate
number is legible when viewed by the camera.

Lots of complaints about this. Nobody can cheat anymore.





We have smog checks here in most counties, no safety inspections. CHP does
do random safety checks .

On 10/4/18 3:11 PM, Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/4/2018 1:15 PM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 20:45:34 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 16:27:49 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 07:40:41 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/3/2018 7:02 AM, John H. wrote:

https://www.rideapart.com/articles/2...termot-reveal/

Finally a Moto Guzzi with lines and ergonomics I like - except for
that short windscreen. But, maybe
it's got another six inches of adjustment.



I am surprised that air-cooled motorcycles can still meet emission
standards that continue to become tighter year by year.

The emission standards are becoming more stringent for motorcycles sold
in Europe as well as the USA.

Liquid cooled engines are easier to "tune" for emission control
due to their more uniform operating temperature.

I expect the Guzzi's are 'de-tuned' to meet American emission
standards. My 1989 Mille is
carbureted, but came with the 'US
jetting', which didn't help performance at all. Right after buying
it I replaced the jets with the European jets, put different air
filters and exhaust on it, and the
thing is much, much improved.

On the Moto Guzzi groups, folks are already talking about putting new
chips in their computers for
better performance. Motorcycles aren't emissions tested, at least in
Virginia, like cars are. So
improvements made after the fact don't get caught.

Al Gore is going to get you.

We actually do not get inspected at all but all of my stuff is
unaltered and is not throwing codes so I would pass the test.
I doubt any of my old 70's HD "shovels" would pass much of an emission
test tho.


We have an annual safety inspection for motorcycles just as we do for autos.


Same here. A scan of the OBD is required for autos and trucks. Safety
inspection for motorcycles only. (so far).

I was very surprised when I bought and registered a little truck in
Florida that no safety or emissions tests were required.

Massachusetts put a new law on the books that took effect last year.
All inspection stations must have video cameras in the inspection
bay that can be monitored by the RMV whenever an inspection
is taking place. They are checking for any violations of the inspection
process and that all checks are done as required like jacking up the
front end and checking ball joints, etc. You even have to remove any
kind of license plate frame you may have installed to ensure the plate
number is legible when viewed by the camera.

Lots of complaints about this. Nobody can cheat anymore.





We have smog checks here in most counties, no safety inspections. CHP does
do random safety checks .


Maryland does emission checks, nothing else. Stupid.

We have had safety inspections for autos motorcycles and trailers for decades. The last half dozen years they changed the requirement to every 2nd year from annual inspections.

On Thu, 04 Oct 2018 13:15:14 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 20:45:34 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 16:27:49 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 07:40:41 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/3/2018 7:02 AM, John H. wrote:

https://www.rideapart.com/articles/2...termot-reveal/

Finally a Moto Guzzi with lines and ergonomics I like - except for that short windscreen. But, maybe
it's got another six inches of adjustment.



I am surprised that air-cooled motorcycles can still meet emission
standards that continue to become tighter year by year.

The emission standards are becoming more stringent for motorcycles sold
in Europe as well as the USA.

Liquid cooled engines are easier to "tune" for emission control
due to their more uniform operating temperature.

I expect the Guzzi's are 'de-tuned' to meet American emission standards. My 1989 Mille is
carbureted, but came with the 'US jetting', which didn't help performance at all. Right after buying
it I replaced the jets with the European jets, put different air filters and exhaust on it, and the
thing is much, much improved.

On the Moto Guzzi groups, folks are already talking about putting new chips in their computers for
better performance. Motorcycles aren't emissions tested, at least in Virginia, like cars are. So
improvements made after the fact don't get caught.

Al Gore is going to get you.

We actually do not get inspected at all but all of my stuff is
unaltered and is not throwing codes so I would pass the test.
I doubt any of my old 70's HD "shovels" would pass much of an emission
test tho.

We have an annual safety inspection for motorcycles just as we do for autos.

They don't inspect anything here except they do have emission
inspection on cars in a couple big cities. (just not here). It is
nothing but scanning the ECU for codes. (a federal tax money thing)
They decided inspections were a useless boondoggle years ago and it
was even under a democrat governor (Chiles)

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/4/18 3:11 PM, Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/4/2018 1:15 PM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 20:45:34 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 16:27:49 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 07:40:41 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/3/2018 7:02 AM, John H. wrote:

https://www.rideapart.com/articles/2...termot-reveal/

Finally a Moto Guzzi with lines and ergonomics I like - except for
that short windscreen. But, maybe
it's got another six inches of adjustment.



I am surprised that air-cooled motorcycles can still meet emission
standards that continue to become tighter year by year.

The emission standards are becoming more stringent for motorcycles sold
in Europe as well as the USA.

Liquid cooled engines are easier to "tune" for emission control
due to their more uniform operating temperature.

I expect the Guzzi's are 'de-tuned' to meet American emission
standards. My 1989 Mille is
carbureted, but came with the 'US
jetting', which didn't help performance at all. Right after buying
it I replaced the jets with the European jets, put different air
filters and exhaust on it, and the
thing is much, much improved.

On the Moto Guzzi groups, folks are already talking about putting new
chips in their computers for
better performance. Motorcycles aren't emissions tested, at least in
Virginia, like cars are. So
improvements made after the fact don't get caught.

Al Gore is going to get you.

We actually do not get inspected at all but all of my stuff is
unaltered and is not throwing codes so I would pass the test.
I doubt any of my old 70's HD "shovels" would pass much of an emission
test tho.


We have an annual safety inspection for motorcycles just as we do for autos.


Same here. A scan of the OBD is required for autos and trucks. Safety
inspection for motorcycles only. (so far).

I was very surprised when I bought and registered a little truck in
Florida that no safety or emissions tests were required.

Massachusetts put a new law on the books that took effect last year.
All inspection stations must have video cameras in the inspection
bay that can be monitored by the RMV whenever an inspection
is taking place. They are checking for any violations of the inspection
process and that all checks are done as required like jacking up the
front end and checking ball joints, etc. You even have to remove any
kind of license plate frame you may have installed to ensure the plate
number is legible when viewed by the camera.

Lots of complaints about this. Nobody can cheat anymore.





We have smog checks here in most counties, no safety inspections. CHP does
do random safety checks .


Maryland does emission checks, nothing else. Stupid.


What is stupid? Your writing skills are heading negative.

wrote:
On Thu, 04 Oct 2018 13:15:14 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 20:45:34 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 16:27:49 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 07:40:41 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/3/2018 7:02 AM, John H. wrote:

https://www.rideapart.com/articles/2...termot-reveal/

Finally a Moto Guzzi with lines and ergonomics I like - except for
that short windscreen. But, maybe
it's got another six inches of adjustment.



I am surprised that air-cooled motorcycles can still meet emission
standards that continue to become tighter year by year.

The emission standards are becoming more stringent for motorcycles sold
in Europe as well as the USA.

Liquid cooled engines are easier to "tune" for emission control
due to their more uniform operating temperature.

I expect the Guzzi's are 'de-tuned' to meet American emission
standards. My 1989 Mille is
carbureted, but came with the 'US
jetting', which didn't help performance at all. Right after buying
it I replaced the jets with the European jets, put different air
filters and exhaust on it, and the
thing is much, much improved.

On the Moto Guzzi groups, folks are already talking about putting new
chips in their computers for
better performance. Motorcycles aren't emissions tested, at least in
Virginia, like cars are. So
improvements made after the fact don't get caught.

Al Gore is going to get you.

We actually do not get inspected at all but all of my stuff is
unaltered and is not throwing codes so I would pass the test.
I doubt any of my old 70's HD "shovels" would pass much of an emission
test tho.

We have an annual safety inspection for motorcycles just as we do for autos.

They don't inspect anything here except they do have emission
inspection on cars in a couple big cities. (just not here). It is
nothing but scanning the ECU for codes. (a federal tax money thing)
They decided inspections were a useless boondoggle years ago and it
was even under a democrat governor (Chiles)


The gas cars get on the dyno here. Costs the same for my diesel pickup
and they give it a visual check and check codes.

On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 15:40:01 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:


Maryland does emission checks, nothing else. Stupid.

Bull****, you can't get tags for a used car without an inspection, a
safety inspection and the last time I was there it was pretty
extensive (pulling brake drums, inspecting rotors even checking for
various fluid leaks)

On 10/4/18 5:29 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 15:40:01 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:


Maryland does emission checks, nothing else. Stupid.

Bull****, you can't get tags for a used car without an inspection, a
safety inspection and the last time I was there it was pretty
extensive (pulling brake drums, inspecting rotors even checking for
various fluid leaks)


My 2004 Toyota got inspected every two years for emissions, nothing else.

On 10/4/2018 5:28 PM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 04 Oct 2018 13:15:14 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 20:45:34 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 16:27:49 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 07:40:41 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/3/2018 7:02 AM, John H. wrote:

https://www.rideapart.com/articles/2...termot-reveal/

Finally a Moto Guzzi with lines and ergonomics I like - except for
that short windscreen. But, maybe
it's got another six inches of adjustment.



I am surprised that air-cooled motorcycles can still meet emission
standards that continue to become tighter year by year.

The emission standards are becoming more stringent for motorcycles sold
in Europe as well as the USA.

Liquid cooled engines are easier to "tune" for emission control
due to their more uniform operating temperature.

I expect the Guzzi's are 'de-tuned' to meet American emission
standards. My 1989 Mille is
carbureted, but came with the 'US
jetting', which didn't help performance at all. Right after buying
it I replaced the jets with the European jets, put different air
filters and exhaust on it, and the
thing is much, much improved.

On the Moto Guzzi groups, folks are already talking about putting new
chips in their computers for
better performance. Motorcycles aren't emissions tested, at least in
Virginia, like cars are. So
improvements made after the fact don't get caught.

Al Gore is going to get you.

We actually do not get inspected at all but all of my stuff is
unaltered and is not throwing codes so I would pass the test.
I doubt any of my old 70's HD "shovels" would pass much of an emission
test tho.

We have an annual safety inspection for motorcycles just as we do for autos.

They don't inspect anything here except they do have emission
inspection on cars in a couple big cities. (just not here). It is
nothing but scanning the ECU for codes. (a federal tax money thing)
They decided inspections were a useless boondoggle years ago and it
was even under a democrat governor (Chiles)


The gas cars get on the dyno here. Costs the same for my diesel pickup
and they give it a visual check and check codes.



Up to several years ago they did the dyno test here with the probe
up the tailpipe but did away with it. They rely solely on the computer
scan of the OBD II now for emissions. Older cars (pre-2002) are exempt
from emission testing.

Still do a safety check of everything else though and, with the required
cameras, can lose their
license to do inspections if caught cheating or not doing everything
they are supposed to do.