On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 13:34:00 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/4/2018 1:15 PM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 20:45:34 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 16:27:49 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 07:40:41 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/3/2018 7:02 AM, John H. wrote:

https://www.rideapart.com/articles/2...termot-reveal/

Finally a Moto Guzzi with lines and ergonomics I like - except for that short windscreen. But, maybe
it's got another six inches of adjustment.



I am surprised that air-cooled motorcycles can still meet emission
standards that continue to become tighter year by year.

The emission standards are becoming more stringent for motorcycles sold
in Europe as well as the USA.

Liquid cooled engines are easier to "tune" for emission control
due to their more uniform operating temperature.

I expect the Guzzi's are 'de-tuned' to meet American emission standards. My 1989 Mille is
carbureted, but came with the 'US jetting', which didn't help performance at all. Right after buying
it I replaced the jets with the European jets, put different air filters and exhaust on it, and the
thing is much, much improved.

On the Moto Guzzi groups, folks are already talking about putting new chips in their computers for
better performance. Motorcycles aren't emissions tested, at least in Virginia, like cars are. So
improvements made after the fact don't get caught.

Al Gore is going to get you.

We actually do not get inspected at all but all of my stuff is
unaltered and is not throwing codes so I would pass the test.
I doubt any of my old 70's HD "shovels" would pass much of an emission
test tho.


We have an annual safety inspection for motorcycles just as we do for autos.


Same here. A scan of the OBD is required for autos and trucks. Safety
inspection for motorcycles only. (so far).

I was very surprised when I bought and registered a little truck in
Florida that no safety or emissions tests were required.

Massachusetts put a new law on the books that took effect last year.
All inspection stations must have video cameras in the inspection
bay that can be monitored by the RMV whenever an inspection
is taking place. They are checking for any violations of the inspection
process and that all checks are done as required like jacking up the
front end and checking ball joints, etc. You even have to remove any
kind of license plate frame you may have installed to ensure the plate
number is legible when viewed by the camera.

Lots of complaints about this. Nobody can cheat anymore.


The handbrake on my Guzzi is poorly designed. The switch works when it wants to, which is why I
always use the footbrake. I *was* able to sneak my foot onto the footbrake when the inspector
checked the handbrake light. Now there are mirrors everywhere so he doesn't ever go behind the bike.
Now the handbrake has to work every time, which means taking the switch apart about once every two
years.

Oh well.

On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 17:31:25 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 10/4/18 5:29 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 15:40:01 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:


Maryland does emission checks, nothing else. Stupid.

Bull****, you can't get tags for a used car without an inspection, a
safety inspection and the last time I was there it was pretty
extensive (pulling brake drums, inspecting rotors even checking for
various fluid leaks)


My 2004 Toyota got inspected every two years for emissions, nothing else.

I guess it would be the acme of foolishness to think an elitist snob
like you would know anything about used cars.
I had to have my Firebird inspected and it was a brand new car with
about 1000 miles on it but it was titled to the dealer, not sold with
the certificate of origin so the state of Maryland said it was used.

On Thu, 04 Oct 2018 16:56:39 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 04 Oct 2018 13:15:14 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 20:45:34 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 16:27:49 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 07:40:41 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/3/2018 7:02 AM, John H. wrote:

https://www.rideapart.com/articles/2...termot-reveal/

Finally a Moto Guzzi with lines and ergonomics I like - except for that short windscreen. But, maybe
it's got another six inches of adjustment.



I am surprised that air-cooled motorcycles can still meet emission
standards that continue to become tighter year by year.

The emission standards are becoming more stringent for motorcycles sold
in Europe as well as the USA.

Liquid cooled engines are easier to "tune" for emission control
due to their more uniform operating temperature.

I expect the Guzzi's are 'de-tuned' to meet American emission standards. My 1989 Mille is
carbureted, but came with the 'US jetting', which didn't help performance at all. Right after buying
it I replaced the jets with the European jets, put different air filters and exhaust on it, and the
thing is much, much improved.

On the Moto Guzzi groups, folks are already talking about putting new chips in their computers for
better performance. Motorcycles aren't emissions tested, at least in Virginia, like cars are. So
improvements made after the fact don't get caught.

Al Gore is going to get you.

We actually do not get inspected at all but all of my stuff is
unaltered and is not throwing codes so I would pass the test.
I doubt any of my old 70's HD "shovels" would pass much of an emission
test tho.

We have an annual safety inspection for motorcycles just as we do for autos.

They don't inspect anything here except they do have emission
inspection on cars in a couple big cities. (just not here). It is
nothing but scanning the ECU for codes. (a federal tax money thing)
They decided inspections were a useless boondoggle years ago and it
was even under a democrat governor (Chiles)

We have an emissions inspection every two years, unless it's a diesel like my truck. They actully
put the pipe up the exhaust and run the engine.