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Another Day, Another Build (continued)
On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 13:29:11 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 10/28/2018 1:04 PM, wrote: On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 11:01:27 -0400, John H. wrote: Yet you were the guy claiming he could outshoot all those Prince George's County cops From my experience street cops are not that good a shot. You only have to look at their real life performance. They seem to hit the target with 10% or fewer shots fired and that is usually at "belly gun" range. My cop buddies say they are not much better on the range. In an active, serious, shoot or be shot situation, what's the realistic accurate range of a handgun anyway? 20 feet at best IMO. I think cops had to learn how to shoot better when they had revolvers. The guy who always won the Charlotte Co Sheriff's bowling pin competition (knock down 5 bowling pins at 7 yards, shoot till you get them all) did it with a S&W Chief. The guys with the double stack Sigs went to a second magazine far too often to make bystanders comfortable. I am always reminded of the NYC "shootout" between the cops and one armed man. They hit 11 bystanders. They fired around 60-70 rounds and I think the bad guy still survived. Then there is the guy they had trapped in a stairwell, they fired 41 shots and hit him about a dozen times. |
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Another Day, Another Build (continued)
On 10/28/18 4:02 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 13:29:11 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/28/2018 1:04 PM, wrote: On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 11:01:27 -0400, John H. wrote: Yet you were the guy claiming he could outshoot all those Prince George's County cops From my experience street cops are not that good a shot. You only have to look at their real life performance. They seem to hit the target with 10% or fewer shots fired and that is usually at "belly gun" range. My cop buddies say they are not much better on the range. In an active, serious, shoot or be shot situation, what's the realistic accurate range of a handgun anyway? 20 feet at best IMO. I think cops had to learn how to shoot better when they had revolvers. The guy who always won the Charlotte Co Sheriff's bowling pin competition (knock down 5 bowling pins at 7 yards, shoot till you get them all) did it with a S&W Chief. The guys with the double stack Sigs went to a second magazine far too often to make bystanders comfortable. I am always reminded of the NYC "shootout" between the cops and one armed man. They hit 11 bystanders. They fired around 60-70 rounds and I think the bad guy still survived. Then there is the guy they had trapped in a stairwell, they fired 41 shots and hit him about a dozen times. It certainly takes a different skill set to shoot decently with a revolver. |
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Another Day, Another Build (continued)
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/28/2018 1:04 PM, wrote: On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 11:01:27 -0400, John H. wrote: Yet you were the guy claiming he could outshoot all those Prince George's County cops From my experience street cops are not that good a shot. You only have to look at their real life performance. They seem to hit the target with 10% or fewer shots fired and that is usually at "belly gun" range. My cop buddies say they are not much better on the range. In an active, serious, shoot or be shot situation, what's the realistic accurate range of a handgun anyway? 20 feet at best IMO. I duck hunted years ago with one of the Bay Area police Department weapons officer. 1970’s. He said average police shootout was less than 20’ with 9 or so shots fired and nobody hit. Hard to,aim while diving for cover. Also, they do not seem to practice much. Wasn’t it a New York shootout with the perp wounded, 120 shots fired at him, 2 bystanders killed? |
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Another Day, Another Build (continued)
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/28/2018 1:43 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/28/18 1:31 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/28/2018 1:17 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/28/18 1:04 PM, wrote: On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 11:01:27 -0400, John H. wrote: Yet you were the guy claiming he could outshoot all those Prince George's County cops Â*From my experience street cops are not that good a shot. You only have to look at their real life performance. They seem to hit the target with 10% or fewer shots fired and that is usually at "belly gun" range. My cop buddies say they are not much better on the range. I don't see that many uniformed PG cops anymore since the "cop range" moved. Maybe they are using the military range next to Andrews. My recollection is that many were not very good shots with their sidearms. The local County Mounties have theirÂ* ownÂ* range in Calvert, and the public is not invited.Â*  So now you are stereotyping cops as poor shots.Â* How's that? My guess is that some cops are poor shots, some average and some much better than the average shooter at the range. I said "many," I did not say all. Words have meanings. That's one of your unique talents. You imply something but always leave yourself an escape route. He should know. Just like elections have meanings and consequences. |
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Another Day, Another Build (continued)
On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 17:11:52 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 10/28/18 4:02 PM, wrote: On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 13:29:11 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/28/2018 1:04 PM, wrote: On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 11:01:27 -0400, John H. wrote: Yet you were the guy claiming he could outshoot all those Prince George's County cops From my experience street cops are not that good a shot. You only have to look at their real life performance. They seem to hit the target with 10% or fewer shots fired and that is usually at "belly gun" range. My cop buddies say they are not much better on the range. In an active, serious, shoot or be shot situation, what's the realistic accurate range of a handgun anyway? 20 feet at best IMO. I think cops had to learn how to shoot better when they had revolvers. The guy who always won the Charlotte Co Sheriff's bowling pin competition (knock down 5 bowling pins at 7 yards, shoot till you get them all) did it with a S&W Chief. The guys with the double stack Sigs went to a second magazine far too often to make bystanders comfortable. I am always reminded of the NYC "shootout" between the cops and one armed man. They hit 11 bystanders. They fired around 60-70 rounds and I think the bad guy still survived. Then there is the guy they had trapped in a stairwell, they fired 41 shots and hit him about a dozen times. It certainly takes a different skill set to shoot decently with a revolver. Not really, particularly in single action. I agree the double action trigger pull is different than a single action but my Ruger 90 is double action on the first shot and that might be your most important one. It is not unlike my Colt revolvers. That is why I always drill hammer down. |
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Another Day, Another Build (continued)
On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 23:22:10 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/28/2018 1:04 PM, wrote: On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 11:01:27 -0400, John H. wrote: Yet you were the guy claiming he could outshoot all those Prince George's County cops From my experience street cops are not that good a shot. You only have to look at their real life performance. They seem to hit the target with 10% or fewer shots fired and that is usually at "belly gun" range. My cop buddies say they are not much better on the range. In an active, serious, shoot or be shot situation, what's the realistic accurate range of a handgun anyway? 20 feet at best IMO. I duck hunted years ago with one of the Bay Area police Department weapons officer. 1970’s. He said average police shootout was less than 20’ with 9 or so shots fired and nobody hit. Hard to,aim while diving for cover. Also, they do not seem to practice much. Wasn’t it a New York shootout with the perp wounded, 120 shots fired at him, 2 bystanders killed? There seem to be several to choose from. |
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