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On Sun, 15 Dec 2019 20:52:04 -0000 (UTC), Bill
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On Sun, 15 Dec 2019 12:56:02 -0500 (EST), Justan Ohlphart
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Alex Wrote in message:
wrote: On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 21:43:26 -0500, Alex
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On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 08:43:53 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: I bought my CZ new from the CZ Custom Shop and before it
was shipped to my local gun store, I had the Custom Shop convert it
to SAO, among other "customizations," so it had no "double action
mode." You had to rack the slide to put a round in the pipe and
that, of course, would cock the hammer. At that point, if you
wished, you could flick on the manual safety, and "carry" cocked
and locked. I never did that. I carried in Condition 3 when I
carried. Usually, though, the pistol was kept in Condition 4...no
mag in the pistol, no round in the chamber, hammer down, aka "idiot
proof safe." === I can see an advantage to carrying with a
round in the chamber but with the hammer down - as long as the gun
has a double action mode
the first round. How do you get a round in the chamber without
cocking the hammer? Do you have to lower the hammer manually and
hope your thumb doesn't slip? That's how it works if you don't
have a decocker. Don't most DAs have a decocker?Not many.

He probably was thinking of da/sa

DAO has no use for a decocker and SA only should not be carried hammer
down on a loaded chamber in the first place. We have to be talking
about DA/SA.

With modern single action, should be able to carry hammer down on a loaded
chamber. The trigger lifts a striker in to position between the hammer and
firing pin has been required for at least 20 years. So a dropped firearm
would not discharge.

There is just little advantage since cocking most of them is somewhat
cumbersome on the draw stroke. On a 1911, that is not even a
recognized "condition".

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