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Some good news for a change
On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 11:49:46 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 07:02:16 -0400, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 21:14:51 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 01:09:18 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/15/2020 8:57 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/15/2020 8:17 PM, wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:43:59 -0400, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:16:30 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 08:59:01 -0400, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 20:44:28 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 18:24:02 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/14/2020 4:59 PM, wrote: On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 14:10:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: ** I'm not. I'm just pointing out that the sharks will be making big money off this virus. Congress just piled up $8.5 billion in the street. Don't you think they intended for someone to come get it? If we were still waiting for the government, we wouldn't have any kits. And Congress (and Trump) are about to make up to another $50 billion available. Tests for corinavirus will be free. Meanwhile, over in South Korea where they've been testing away, something like 91 percent of the tests have been negative. Sounds like a huge waste of money unless the test also looks for C-19 antibodies, indicating you have licked it and you are no longer a problem. I like Luddite's idea: Feel like ****, test is negative, go to bed for two weeks. Feel like ****, test is positive, go to bed for two weeks. I suppose a test in the early stages would help folks decide to go home for two weeks even if they didn't feel bad. But from what I've heard, folks without symtoms should not be clogging up the lines. The only value the test would have for me is to see if it is still safe to go to my FIL's house but I wouldn't want to give him any kind of crud, C-19, the flu or just a nasty cold. I am really not sure what he would do if I got sick tho. I bet it is just a matter of time before Meals on Wheels shuts down and he is really not supposed to be driving himself. If you can't drive, you can't drive. But, if you're able to drive and positive, I'd mask up and take him the food. Just don't kiss him and make sure your hands are clean! I am sure that is what I would do, if I had to just leave it in the driveway. A lady on one of the other newsgroups had an interesting idea. How do UV sanitizers work on viruses and is there an easy way to make one? Maybe Richard has some experience with heavy duty UV light sources and the appropriate enclosure. One of the houses we had in Florida had large UV lamps in the air handler for the AC system.* They were on the main intake before the air went through the filter and evaporator coil. They were advertised as being efficient for killing bacteria but I am not sure about viruses. BTW ... I don't think the UV lamps in the AC system kills all bacteria in the passing air at once. It depends on the fan running for a while and the air being recirculated through the system many times. I remember there was a warning label on the outside of the intake grate that said not to stare into the plenum at the lamps. We don't have the humidity that Florida has up here and a system like this isn't needed. But in Florida they are somewhat common. They do use UV to sanitize medical equipment, but is certain wave lengths. I think really bad for humans. Maybe put it inside an air handler duct, out if human space. I know some wavelengths are OK as they are used in some hand driers and they used to use a UV light to sanitize bowling shoes when I was a kid. I I was really thinking of the things you bring into the house. If the virus is on those things, you've already gotten it on your hands and probably your beard. Not it if it was delivered. I do have pretty good discipline about not touching myself if I am being careful. It comes from 30 years of working on line printers in a white shirt. ;-) :) -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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#53
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Some good news for a change
On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 12:06:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 3/16/2020 11:53 AM, wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 07:33:43 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/16/2020 7:00 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 20:57:06 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/15/2020 8:17 PM, wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:43:59 -0400, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:16:30 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 08:59:01 -0400, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 20:44:28 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 18:24:02 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/14/2020 4:59 PM, wrote: On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 14:10:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: I'm not. I'm just pointing out that the sharks will be making big money off this virus. Congress just piled up $8.5 billion in the street. Don't you think they intended for someone to come get it? If we were still waiting for the government, we wouldn't have any kits. And Congress (and Trump) are about to make up to another $50 billion available. Tests for corinavirus will be free. Meanwhile, over in South Korea where they've been testing away, something like 91 percent of the tests have been negative. Sounds like a huge waste of money unless the test also looks for C-19 antibodies, indicating you have licked it and you are no longer a problem. I like Luddite's idea: Feel like ****, test is negative, go to bed for two weeks. Feel like ****, test is positive, go to bed for two weeks. I suppose a test in the early stages would help folks decide to go home for two weeks even if they didn't feel bad. But from what I've heard, folks without symtoms should not be clogging up the lines. The only value the test would have for me is to see if it is still safe to go to my FIL's house but I wouldn't want to give him any kind of crud, C-19, the flu or just a nasty cold. I am really not sure what he would do if I got sick tho. I bet it is just a matter of time before Meals on Wheels shuts down and he is really not supposed to be driving himself. If you can't drive, you can't drive. But, if you're able to drive and positive, I'd mask up and take him the food. Just don't kiss him and make sure your hands are clean! I am sure that is what I would do, if I had to just leave it in the driveway. A lady on one of the other newsgroups had an interesting idea. How do UV sanitizers work on viruses and is there an easy way to make one? Maybe Richard has some experience with heavy duty UV light sources and the appropriate enclosure. One of the houses we had in Florida had large UV lamps in the air handler for the AC system. They were on the main intake before the air went through the filter and evaporator coil. They were advertised as being efficient for killing bacteria but I am not sure about viruses. My A/C guy thinks they're great, or at least his profit margin is great, so I let him put one in. I haven't had but one or two colds in the past eight or ten years, so maybe they do some good. My last cold was on board a ship. -- Freedom Isn't Free! Apparently there are two major types. One type is is a small UV lamp located near the evaporator coil and kills stuff that condenses on it. They are not expensive. The other type is a larger system designed to kill stuff in the moving air when the air handler fan is running. These systems are more costly. I think to be effective this has to be a lot more powerful than the black light you had in your dorm to light up the Grateful Dead posters. I am sure a lot of the stuff they sell is not as effective as sitting something in the sun for a few minutes. Not the same animal. Those "black lights" are long wavelength (UV-A) that is not harmful. The ones used to kill germs and stuff are shortwave length. (UV-C) In the world I came from we created UV radiation in a plasma within a vacuum chamber. It was of wide wavelengths some of which are harmful to eyes to look at but the type of glass used in the "sightports" to view inside the chamber absorbed most of it. They make LED UV lamps now for use in sanitizing systems like those used in AC ductwork. I thought about this a little more last night and I am thinking if I see an old "20 pound turkey" sized microwave on the curb somewhere I might grab it. I figure you could chuck all of the electronics inside, keep the interlock switches. Put some reflective surfaces inside, warped a little to spread the light around, including covering the window on the door and put some of those U/V LEDS around inside. Maybe a spring wound timer to run the light and off you go. Put your packages or whatever in there and "cook" it 15 minutes or so. If you wanted to get fancy you could have a rotating mirror array to really spread the light around. I do have a couple sheets of that "mirror" grade stainless in the garage like you see in commercial bathrooms. The interlock switches would save the user from U/V burns. |
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#54
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Some good news for a change
On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 11:46:23 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 06:58:29 -0400, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 20:17:02 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:43:59 -0400, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:16:30 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 08:59:01 -0400, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 20:44:28 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 18:24:02 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/14/2020 4:59 PM, wrote: On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 14:10:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: I'm not. I'm just pointing out that the sharks will be making big money off this virus. Congress just piled up $8.5 billion in the street. Don't you think they intended for someone to come get it? If we were still waiting for the government, we wouldn't have any kits. And Congress (and Trump) are about to make up to another $50 billion available. Tests for corinavirus will be free. Meanwhile, over in South Korea where they've been testing away, something like 91 percent of the tests have been negative. Sounds like a huge waste of money unless the test also looks for C-19 antibodies, indicating you have licked it and you are no longer a problem. I like Luddite's idea: Feel like ****, test is negative, go to bed for two weeks. Feel like ****, test is positive, go to bed for two weeks. I suppose a test in the early stages would help folks decide to go home for two weeks even if they didn't feel bad. But from what I've heard, folks without symtoms should not be clogging up the lines. The only value the test would have for me is to see if it is still safe to go to my FIL's house but I wouldn't want to give him any kind of crud, C-19, the flu or just a nasty cold. I am really not sure what he would do if I got sick tho. I bet it is just a matter of time before Meals on Wheels shuts down and he is really not supposed to be driving himself. If you can't drive, you can't drive. But, if you're able to drive and positive, I'd mask up and take him the food. Just don't kiss him and make sure your hands are clean! I am sure that is what I would do, if I had to just leave it in the driveway. A lady on one of the other newsgroups had an interesting idea. How do UV sanitizers work on viruses and is there an easy way to make one? Maybe Richard has some experience with heavy duty UV light sources and the appropriate enclosure. What would you sanitize with it? Sanitizing your hands at home still leaves you able to pick up the virus from door handles, shopping carts, other food folks have picked up and put back, and on and on. You'd surely not be carrying your UV apparatus and zapping everything in the store you were about to touch. I was thinking more about stuff that gets delivered to your house while you are hunkered down. It doesn't help much to stay home if the virus is coming in the door from a delivery man who is all over town collecting god knows what. How often does he wash his hands? Maybe that threat is minimal but then how much of all of this is overblown? Logic seems to have left the building. 149 people in a room is safe but 251 is dangerous and now illegal? Come on now. I think it's all based statistical data and the probability on one person infecting "X" number of people. It's a case that supports the mass testing of everyone. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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#55
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Some good news for a change
On 3/16/2020 1:36 PM, Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 07:33:43 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/16/2020 7:00 AM, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 20:57:06 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/15/2020 8:17 PM, wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:43:59 -0400, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:16:30 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 08:59:01 -0400, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 20:44:28 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 18:24:02 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/14/2020 4:59 PM, wrote: On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 14:10:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: I'm not. I'm just pointing out that the sharks will be making big money off this virus. Congress just piled up $8.5 billion in the street. Don't you think they intended for someone to come get it? If we were still waiting for the government, we wouldn't have any kits. And Congress (and Trump) are about to make up to another $50 billion available. Tests for corinavirus will be free. Meanwhile, over in South Korea where they've been testing away, something like 91 percent of the tests have been negative. Sounds like a huge waste of money unless the test also looks for C-19 antibodies, indicating you have licked it and you are no longer a problem. I like Luddite's idea: Feel like ****, test is negative, go to bed for two weeks. Feel like ****, test is positive, go to bed for two weeks. I suppose a test in the early stages would help folks decide to go home for two weeks even if they didn't feel bad. But from what I've heard, folks without symtoms should not be clogging up the lines. The only value the test would have for me is to see if it is still safe to go to my FIL's house but I wouldn't want to give him any kind of crud, C-19, the flu or just a nasty cold. I am really not sure what he would do if I got sick tho. I bet it is just a matter of time before Meals on Wheels shuts down and he is really not supposed to be driving himself. If you can't drive, you can't drive. But, if you're able to drive and positive, I'd mask up and take him the food. Just don't kiss him and make sure your hands are clean! I am sure that is what I would do, if I had to just leave it in the driveway. A lady on one of the other newsgroups had an interesting idea. How do UV sanitizers work on viruses and is there an easy way to make one? Maybe Richard has some experience with heavy duty UV light sources and the appropriate enclosure. One of the houses we had in Florida had large UV lamps in the air handler for the AC system. They were on the main intake before the air went through the filter and evaporator coil. They were advertised as being efficient for killing bacteria but I am not sure about viruses. My A/C guy thinks they're great, or at least his profit margin is great, so I let him put one in. I haven't had but one or two colds in the past eight or ten years, so maybe they do some good. My last cold was on board a ship. -- Freedom Isn't Free! Apparently there are two major types. One type is is a small UV lamp located near the evaporator coil and kills stuff that condenses on it. They are not expensive. The other type is a larger system designed to kill stuff in the moving air when the air handler fan is running. These systems are more costly. Mine is the second, but I can't swear to its effectiveness. But, on the other hand, I can't complain either! -- Freedom Isn't Free! Lamps need to be replaced on a schedule. Usually a year for the larger systems that treat moving air. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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#56
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Some good news for a change
On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 13:38:05 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 11:46:23 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 06:58:29 -0400, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 20:17:02 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:43:59 -0400, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:16:30 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 08:59:01 -0400, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 20:44:28 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 18:24:02 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/14/2020 4:59 PM, wrote: On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 14:10:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: I'm not. I'm just pointing out that the sharks will be making big money off this virus. Congress just piled up $8.5 billion in the street. Don't you think they intended for someone to come get it? If we were still waiting for the government, we wouldn't have any kits. And Congress (and Trump) are about to make up to another $50 billion available. Tests for corinavirus will be free. Meanwhile, over in South Korea where they've been testing away, something like 91 percent of the tests have been negative. Sounds like a huge waste of money unless the test also looks for C-19 antibodies, indicating you have licked it and you are no longer a problem. I like Luddite's idea: Feel like ****, test is negative, go to bed for two weeks. Feel like ****, test is positive, go to bed for two weeks. I suppose a test in the early stages would help folks decide to go home for two weeks even if they didn't feel bad. But from what I've heard, folks without symtoms should not be clogging up the lines. The only value the test would have for me is to see if it is still safe to go to my FIL's house but I wouldn't want to give him any kind of crud, C-19, the flu or just a nasty cold. I am really not sure what he would do if I got sick tho. I bet it is just a matter of time before Meals on Wheels shuts down and he is really not supposed to be driving himself. If you can't drive, you can't drive. But, if you're able to drive and positive, I'd mask up and take him the food. Just don't kiss him and make sure your hands are clean! I am sure that is what I would do, if I had to just leave it in the driveway. A lady on one of the other newsgroups had an interesting idea. How do UV sanitizers work on viruses and is there an easy way to make one? Maybe Richard has some experience with heavy duty UV light sources and the appropriate enclosure. What would you sanitize with it? Sanitizing your hands at home still leaves you able to pick up the virus from door handles, shopping carts, other food folks have picked up and put back, and on and on. You'd surely not be carrying your UV apparatus and zapping everything in the store you were about to touch. I was thinking more about stuff that gets delivered to your house while you are hunkered down. It doesn't help much to stay home if the virus is coming in the door from a delivery man who is all over town collecting god knows what. How often does he wash his hands? Maybe that threat is minimal but then how much of all of this is overblown? Logic seems to have left the building. 149 people in a room is safe but 251 is dangerous and now illegal? Come on now. OK. I don't know where they come up with the numbers. I do know I'm having second thoughts about a trip to Seattle in May to go for a motorcycle ride to California with my brother. I don't think I want to get on a plane but I never really liked getting on planes. We always scrub up everything we can touch in a 1st class seat. I still think there are too many people too close to me. The more I hear about this, the more I think, I may already be social distancing. ;-) |
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#57
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Some good news for a change
On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 14:24:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 11:46:23 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 06:58:29 -0400, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 20:17:02 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:43:59 -0400, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:16:30 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 08:59:01 -0400, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 20:44:28 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 18:24:02 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/14/2020 4:59 PM, wrote: On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 14:10:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: I'm not. I'm just pointing out that the sharks will be making big money off this virus. Congress just piled up $8.5 billion in the street. Don't you think they intended for someone to come get it? If we were still waiting for the government, we wouldn't have any kits. And Congress (and Trump) are about to make up to another $50 billion available. Tests for corinavirus will be free. Meanwhile, over in South Korea where they've been testing away, something like 91 percent of the tests have been negative. Sounds like a huge waste of money unless the test also looks for C-19 antibodies, indicating you have licked it and you are no longer a problem. I like Luddite's idea: Feel like ****, test is negative, go to bed for two weeks. Feel like ****, test is positive, go to bed for two weeks. I suppose a test in the early stages would help folks decide to go home for two weeks even if they didn't feel bad. But from what I've heard, folks without symtoms should not be clogging up the lines. The only value the test would have for me is to see if it is still safe to go to my FIL's house but I wouldn't want to give him any kind of crud, C-19, the flu or just a nasty cold. I am really not sure what he would do if I got sick tho. I bet it is just a matter of time before Meals on Wheels shuts down and he is really not supposed to be driving himself. If you can't drive, you can't drive. But, if you're able to drive and positive, I'd mask up and take him the food. Just don't kiss him and make sure your hands are clean! I am sure that is what I would do, if I had to just leave it in the driveway. A lady on one of the other newsgroups had an interesting idea. How do UV sanitizers work on viruses and is there an easy way to make one? Maybe Richard has some experience with heavy duty UV light sources and the appropriate enclosure. What would you sanitize with it? Sanitizing your hands at home still leaves you able to pick up the virus from door handles, shopping carts, other food folks have picked up and put back, and on and on. You'd surely not be carrying your UV apparatus and zapping everything in the store you were about to touch. I was thinking more about stuff that gets delivered to your house while you are hunkered down. It doesn't help much to stay home if the virus is coming in the door from a delivery man who is all over town collecting god knows what. How often does he wash his hands? Maybe that threat is minimal but then how much of all of this is overblown? Logic seems to have left the building. 149 people in a room is safe but 251 is dangerous and now illegal? Come on now. I think it's all based statistical data and the probability on one person infecting "X" number of people. It's a case that supports the mass testing of everyone. The flaw in the testing is it is just a snapshot in time. If you are not putting that person on a sterile space ship and shooting them into orbit, they can get infected tomorrow. I really think this is going to be like a lot of diseases and the thing that is really important is if you had it and beat it like Chicken Pox in our day. This virus is not going away. |
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#58
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Some good news for a change
On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 21:34:45 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 13:38:05 -0400, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 11:46:23 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 06:58:29 -0400, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 20:17:02 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:43:59 -0400, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:16:30 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 08:59:01 -0400, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 20:44:28 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 18:24:02 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/14/2020 4:59 PM, wrote: On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 14:10:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: I'm not. I'm just pointing out that the sharks will be making big money off this virus. Congress just piled up $8.5 billion in the street. Don't you think they intended for someone to come get it? If we were still waiting for the government, we wouldn't have any kits. And Congress (and Trump) are about to make up to another $50 billion available. Tests for corinavirus will be free. Meanwhile, over in South Korea where they've been testing away, something like 91 percent of the tests have been negative. Sounds like a huge waste of money unless the test also looks for C-19 antibodies, indicating you have licked it and you are no longer a problem. I like Luddite's idea: Feel like ****, test is negative, go to bed for two weeks. Feel like ****, test is positive, go to bed for two weeks. I suppose a test in the early stages would help folks decide to go home for two weeks even if they didn't feel bad. But from what I've heard, folks without symtoms should not be clogging up the lines. The only value the test would have for me is to see if it is still safe to go to my FIL's house but I wouldn't want to give him any kind of crud, C-19, the flu or just a nasty cold. I am really not sure what he would do if I got sick tho. I bet it is just a matter of time before Meals on Wheels shuts down and he is really not supposed to be driving himself. If you can't drive, you can't drive. But, if you're able to drive and positive, I'd mask up and take him the food. Just don't kiss him and make sure your hands are clean! I am sure that is what I would do, if I had to just leave it in the driveway. A lady on one of the other newsgroups had an interesting idea. How do UV sanitizers work on viruses and is there an easy way to make one? Maybe Richard has some experience with heavy duty UV light sources and the appropriate enclosure. What would you sanitize with it? Sanitizing your hands at home still leaves you able to pick up the virus from door handles, shopping carts, other food folks have picked up and put back, and on and on. You'd surely not be carrying your UV apparatus and zapping everything in the store you were about to touch. I was thinking more about stuff that gets delivered to your house while you are hunkered down. It doesn't help much to stay home if the virus is coming in the door from a delivery man who is all over town collecting god knows what. How often does he wash his hands? Maybe that threat is minimal but then how much of all of this is overblown? Logic seems to have left the building. 149 people in a room is safe but 251 is dangerous and now illegal? Come on now. OK. I don't know where they come up with the numbers. I do know I'm having second thoughts about a trip to Seattle in May to go for a motorcycle ride to California with my brother. I don't think I want to get on a plane but I never really liked getting on planes. We always scrub up everything we can touch in a 1st class seat. I still think there are too many people too close to me. The more I hear about this, the more I think, I may already be social distancing. ;-) Luckily, I've never ridden in first class, so there's a lot less wiping to do. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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#59
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Some good news for a change
On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 09:07:50 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 21:34:45 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 13:38:05 -0400, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 11:46:23 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 06:58:29 -0400, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 20:17:02 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:43:59 -0400, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:16:30 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 08:59:01 -0400, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 20:44:28 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 18:24:02 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/14/2020 4:59 PM, wrote: On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 14:10:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: I'm not. I'm just pointing out that the sharks will be making big money off this virus. Congress just piled up $8.5 billion in the street. Don't you think they intended for someone to come get it? If we were still waiting for the government, we wouldn't have any kits. And Congress (and Trump) are about to make up to another $50 billion available. Tests for corinavirus will be free. Meanwhile, over in South Korea where they've been testing away, something like 91 percent of the tests have been negative. Sounds like a huge waste of money unless the test also looks for C-19 antibodies, indicating you have licked it and you are no longer a problem. I like Luddite's idea: Feel like ****, test is negative, go to bed for two weeks. Feel like ****, test is positive, go to bed for two weeks. I suppose a test in the early stages would help folks decide to go home for two weeks even if they didn't feel bad. But from what I've heard, folks without symtoms should not be clogging up the lines. The only value the test would have for me is to see if it is still safe to go to my FIL's house but I wouldn't want to give him any kind of crud, C-19, the flu or just a nasty cold. I am really not sure what he would do if I got sick tho. I bet it is just a matter of time before Meals on Wheels shuts down and he is really not supposed to be driving himself. If you can't drive, you can't drive. But, if you're able to drive and positive, I'd mask up and take him the food. Just don't kiss him and make sure your hands are clean! I am sure that is what I would do, if I had to just leave it in the driveway. A lady on one of the other newsgroups had an interesting idea. How do UV sanitizers work on viruses and is there an easy way to make one? Maybe Richard has some experience with heavy duty UV light sources and the appropriate enclosure. What would you sanitize with it? Sanitizing your hands at home still leaves you able to pick up the virus from door handles, shopping carts, other food folks have picked up and put back, and on and on. You'd surely not be carrying your UV apparatus and zapping everything in the store you were about to touch. I was thinking more about stuff that gets delivered to your house while you are hunkered down. It doesn't help much to stay home if the virus is coming in the door from a delivery man who is all over town collecting god knows what. How often does he wash his hands? Maybe that threat is minimal but then how much of all of this is overblown? Logic seems to have left the building. 149 people in a room is safe but 251 is dangerous and now illegal? Come on now. OK. I don't know where they come up with the numbers. I do know I'm having second thoughts about a trip to Seattle in May to go for a motorcycle ride to California with my brother. I don't think I want to get on a plane but I never really liked getting on planes. We always scrub up everything we can touch in a 1st class seat. I still think there are too many people too close to me. The more I hear about this, the more I think, I may already be social distancing. ;-) Luckily, I've never ridden in first class, so there's a lot less wiping to do. There is zero social distancing if you are stuck in a center seat between two 250 pound people. I didn't like that before the C-19. |
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Some good news for a change
On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 13:01:41 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 09:07:50 -0400, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 21:34:45 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 13:38:05 -0400, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 11:46:23 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 06:58:29 -0400, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 20:17:02 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:43:59 -0400, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:16:30 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 08:59:01 -0400, Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 20:44:28 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 18:24:02 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/14/2020 4:59 PM, wrote: On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 14:10:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: I'm not. I'm just pointing out that the sharks will be making big money off this virus. Congress just piled up $8.5 billion in the street. Don't you think they intended for someone to come get it? If we were still waiting for the government, we wouldn't have any kits. And Congress (and Trump) are about to make up to another $50 billion available. Tests for corinavirus will be free. Meanwhile, over in South Korea where they've been testing away, something like 91 percent of the tests have been negative. Sounds like a huge waste of money unless the test also looks for C-19 antibodies, indicating you have licked it and you are no longer a problem. I like Luddite's idea: Feel like ****, test is negative, go to bed for two weeks. Feel like ****, test is positive, go to bed for two weeks. I suppose a test in the early stages would help folks decide to go home for two weeks even if they didn't feel bad. But from what I've heard, folks without symtoms should not be clogging up the lines. The only value the test would have for me is to see if it is still safe to go to my FIL's house but I wouldn't want to give him any kind of crud, C-19, the flu or just a nasty cold. I am really not sure what he would do if I got sick tho. I bet it is just a matter of time before Meals on Wheels shuts down and he is really not supposed to be driving himself. If you can't drive, you can't drive. But, if you're able to drive and positive, I'd mask up and take him the food. Just don't kiss him and make sure your hands are clean! I am sure that is what I would do, if I had to just leave it in the driveway. A lady on one of the other newsgroups had an interesting idea. How do UV sanitizers work on viruses and is there an easy way to make one? Maybe Richard has some experience with heavy duty UV light sources and the appropriate enclosure. What would you sanitize with it? Sanitizing your hands at home still leaves you able to pick up the virus from door handles, shopping carts, other food folks have picked up and put back, and on and on. You'd surely not be carrying your UV apparatus and zapping everything in the store you were about to touch. I was thinking more about stuff that gets delivered to your house while you are hunkered down. It doesn't help much to stay home if the virus is coming in the door from a delivery man who is all over town collecting god knows what. How often does he wash his hands? Maybe that threat is minimal but then how much of all of this is overblown? Logic seems to have left the building. 149 people in a room is safe but 251 is dangerous and now illegal? Come on now. OK. I don't know where they come up with the numbers. I do know I'm having second thoughts about a trip to Seattle in May to go for a motorcycle ride to California with my brother. I don't think I want to get on a plane but I never really liked getting on planes. We always scrub up everything we can touch in a 1st class seat. I still think there are too many people too close to me. The more I hear about this, the more I think, I may already be social distancing. ;-) Luckily, I've never ridden in first class, so there's a lot less wiping to do. There is zero social distancing if you are stuck in a center seat between two 250 pound people. I didn't like that before the C-19. I have a prostate problem. I always get an aisle seat. My wife gets the aisle seat in front of me and doesn't recline her seat. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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