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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/27/20 11:11 AM, Tim wrote: Mr. Luddite - hide quoted text - On 3/27/2020 11:03 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 10:58 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/27/2020 10:28 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 10:10 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: It didn't take a Chinese hyper-sonic cruise missile to put a US aircraft carrier out of commission. All it took was a virus. Does it matter? We should scrap at least half the navy and stop wasting money on big new ships. It does cause one to realize how vulnerable we may be everywhere to biological warfare. We're not about to get into a shooting war with a nuclear power and the terrorists around the world aren't stymied by their comrades being killed en masse, so what's the point? These ships are vulnerable. Better we should build more hospital ships and dispatch them where needed around the world. We'd be spending far less and building good will. You don't seem to understand what an aircraft carrier and the task forces they operate with are for. “ Honestly, I doubt he cares to know Which of our enemies with missiles and nukes are going to be deterred by aircraft carriers? Any smart enemy knows now that all it has to do is unleash a biological weapon in a half dozen U.S. cities to bring us to our knees. Seems Sadam would disagree on carriers being ineffective. |
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On 3/27/2020 12:44 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 11:11 AM, Tim wrote: Mr. Luddite - hide quoted text - On 3/27/2020 11:03 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 10:58 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/27/2020 10:28 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 10:10 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: It didn't take a Chinese hyper-sonic cruise missile to put a US aircraft carrier out of commission. All it took was a virus. Does it matter? We should scrap at least half the navy and stop wasting money on big new ships. It does cause one to realize how vulnerable we may be everywhere to biological warfare. We're not about to get into a shooting war with a nuclear power and the terrorists around the world aren't stymied by their comrades being killed en masse, so what's the point? These ships are vulnerable. Better we should build more hospital ships and dispatch them where needed around the world. We'd be spending far less and building good will. You don't seem to understand what an aircraft carrier and the task forces they operate with are for. “ Honestly, I doubt he cares to know Which of our enemies with missiles and nukes are going to be deterred by aircraft carriers? Any smart enemy knows now that all it has to do is unleash a biological weapon in a half dozen U.S. cities to bring us to our knees. Seems Sadam would disagree on carriers being ineffective. And all those ISIS guys who have been blown to bits. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 11:25:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 3/27/2020 11:14 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 11:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/27/2020 11:03 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 10:58 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/27/2020 10:28 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 10:10 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: It didn't take a Chinese hyper-sonic cruise missile to put a US aircraft carrier out of commission. All it took was a virus. Does it matter? We should scrap at least half the navy and stop wasting money on big new ships. It does cause one to realize how vulnerable we may be everywhere to biological warfare. We're not about to get into a shooting war with a nuclear power and the terrorists around the world aren't stymied by their comrades being killed en masse, so what's the point? These ships are vulnerable. Better we should build more hospital ships and dispatch them where needed around the world. We'd be spending far less and building good will. You don't seem to understand what an aircraft carrier and the task forces they operate with are for. They are a mobile extension of our ability to defend the USA globally. They are not to go fight a nuclear war. Defend us from who? The Russians, the Chinese? The North Koreans? Nuclear powers? Venezuela? Anybody who poses a threat, regardless of where they are or who they are. It's a unique capability that no other nation has and many depend on ... via our NATO agreements. According to liberals, like Harry, no other nations pose a threat to the US. Russia and China are not spending money on weapons. Or are they? -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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On 3/27/20 11:28 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/27/2020 11:20 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 11:11 AM, Tim wrote: Mr. Luddite - hide quoted text - On 3/27/2020 11:03 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 10:58 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/27/2020 10:28 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 10:10 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: It didn't take a Chinese hyper-sonic cruise missile to put a US aircraft carrier out of commission. All it took was a virus. Does it matter? We should scrap at least half the navy and stop wasting money on big new ships. It does cause one to realize how vulnerable we may be everywhere to biological warfare. We're not about to get into a shooting war with a nuclear power and the terrorists around the world aren't stymied by their comrades being killed en masse, so what's the point? These ships are vulnerable. Better we should build more hospital ships and dispatch them where needed around the world. We'd be spending far less and building good will. You don't seem to understand what an aircraft carrier and the task forces they operate with are for. “ Honestly, I doubt he cares to know Which of our enemies with missiles and nukes are going to be deterred by aircraft carriers? Any smart enemy knows now that all it has to do is unleash a biological weapon in a half dozen U.S. cities to bring us to our knees. I am just very thankful that people like yourself have no part in determining what our National Defense policies should be. Quack quack quack. |
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On 3/27/2020 1:36 PM, John wrote:
On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 11:25:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/27/2020 11:14 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 11:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/27/2020 11:03 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 10:58 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/27/2020 10:28 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 10:10 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: It didn't take a Chinese hyper-sonic cruise missile to put a US aircraft carrier out of commission. All it took was a virus. Does it matter? We should scrap at least half the navy and stop wasting money on big new ships. It does cause one to realize how vulnerable we may be everywhere to biological warfare. We're not about to get into a shooting war with a nuclear power and the terrorists around the world aren't stymied by their comrades being killed en masse, so what's the point? These ships are vulnerable. Better we should build more hospital ships and dispatch them where needed around the world. We'd be spending far less and building good will. You don't seem to understand what an aircraft carrier and the task forces they operate with are for. They are a mobile extension of our ability to defend the USA globally. They are not to go fight a nuclear war. Defend us from who? The Russians, the Chinese? The North Koreans? Nuclear powers? Venezuela? Anybody who poses a threat, regardless of where they are or who they are. It's a unique capability that no other nation has and many depend on ... via our NATO agreements. According to liberals, like Harry, no other nations pose a threat to the US. Russia and China are not spending money on weapons. Or are they? Of course they are. China is the world's second largest defense spender and is a major arms exporter. Some of the weapons technology is more advanced than ours. and according to Defense News: "Russian defense budget remains the third largest in the world, dwarfing the military expenditures of most European states combined." -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 14:21:29 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 3/27/2020 1:36 PM, John wrote: On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 11:25:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/27/2020 11:14 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 11:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/27/2020 11:03 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 10:58 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/27/2020 10:28 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 10:10 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: It didn't take a Chinese hyper-sonic cruise missile to put a US aircraft carrier out of commission. All it took was a virus. Does it matter? We should scrap at least half the navy and stop wasting money on big new ships. It does cause one to realize how vulnerable we may be everywhere to biological warfare. We're not about to get into a shooting war with a nuclear power and the terrorists around the world aren't stymied by their comrades being killed en masse, so what's the point? These ships are vulnerable. Better we should build more hospital ships and dispatch them where needed around the world. We'd be spending far less and building good will. You don't seem to understand what an aircraft carrier and the task forces they operate with are for. They are a mobile extension of our ability to defend the USA globally. They are not to go fight a nuclear war. Defend us from who? The Russians, the Chinese? The North Koreans? Nuclear powers? Venezuela? Anybody who poses a threat, regardless of where they are or who they are. It's a unique capability that no other nation has and many depend on ... via our NATO agreements. According to liberals, like Harry, no other nations pose a threat to the US. Russia and China are not spending money on weapons. Or are they? Of course they are. China is the world's second largest defense spender and is a major arms exporter. Some of the weapons technology is more advanced than ours. and according to Defense News: "Russian defense budget remains the third largest in the world, dwarfing the military expenditures of most European states combined." I wonder why? You reckon they just like having them? -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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On 3/27/20 2:21 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/27/2020 1:36 PM, John wrote: On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 11:25:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/27/2020 11:14 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 11:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/27/2020 11:03 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 10:58 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/27/2020 10:28 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 10:10 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: It didn't take a Chinese hyper-sonic cruise missile to put a US aircraft carrier out of commission. All it took was a virus. Does it matter? We should scrap at least half the navy and stop wasting money on big new ships. It does cause one to realize how vulnerable we may be everywhere to biological warfare. We're not about to get into a shooting war with a nuclear power and the terrorists around the world aren't stymied by their comrades being killed en masse, so what's the point? These ships are vulnerable. Better we should build more hospital ships and dispatch them where needed around the world. We'd be spending far less and building good will. You don't seem to understand what an aircraft carrier and the task forces they operate with are for. They are a mobile extension of our ability to defend the USA globally. They are not to go fight a nuclear war. Defend us from who? The Russians, the Chinese? The North Koreans? Nuclear powers? Venezuela? Anybody who poses a threat, regardless of where they are or who they are. It's a unique capability that no other nation has and many depend on ... via our NATO agreements. https://www.medentmobile.com/portal/...ce_id=BbnhDGah According to liberals, like Harry, no other nations pose a threat to the US. Russia and China are not spending money on weapons. Or are they? Of course they are.Â* China is the world's second largest defense spender and is a major arms exporter.Â* Some of the weapons technology is more advanced than ours. and according to Defense News: "Russian defense budget remains the third largest in the world, dwarfing the military expenditures of most European states combined." According to IISS, the USA blows $684 billion on the military; China, $181 billion; Saudi Arabia, $78 billion; Russia, $61.6 billion... |
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On 3/27/2020 3:17 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/27/20 2:21 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/27/2020 1:36 PM, John wrote: On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 11:25:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/27/2020 11:14 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 11:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/27/2020 11:03 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 10:58 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/27/2020 10:28 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 10:10 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: It didn't take a Chinese hyper-sonic cruise missile to put a US aircraft carrier out of commission. All it took was a virus. Does it matter? We should scrap at least half the navy and stop wasting money on big new ships. It does cause one to realize how vulnerable we may be everywhere to biological warfare. We're not about to get into a shooting war with a nuclear power and the terrorists around the world aren't stymied by their comrades being killed en masse, so what's the point? These ships are vulnerable. Better we should build more hospital ships and dispatch them where needed around the world. We'd be spending far less and building good will. You don't seem to understand what an aircraft carrier and the task forces they operate with are for. They are a mobile extension of our ability to defend the USA globally. They are not to go fight a nuclear war. Defend us from who? The Russians, the Chinese? The North Koreans? Nuclear powers? Venezuela? Anybody who poses a threat, regardless of where they are or who they are. It's a unique capability that no other nation has and many depend on ... via our NATO agreements. https://www.medentmobile.com/portal/...ce_id=BbnhDGah According to liberals, like Harry, no other nations pose a threat to the US. Russia and China are not spending money on weapons. Or are they? Of course they are.Â* China is the world's second largest defense spender and is a major arms exporter.Â* Some of the weapons technology is more advanced than ours. and according to Defense News: "Russian defense budget remains the third largest in the world, dwarfing the military expenditures of most European states combined." According to IISS, the USA blows $684 billion on the military; China, $181 billion; Saudi Arabia, $78 billion; Russia, $61.6 billion... Good thing, huh? I think your data is in error or obsolete. "China spent $250 billion on its military in 2018, an increase of 83% during the period from 2009 through 2018. The U.S., as noted, spent $649 billion, but that represents a reduction of 17% during the same period." But probably more importantly: Total Chinese military budget in 1989 was $18 billion. The figure rose to $250 billion in 2018. "It could be argued that China actually outspends the U.S. on its military when personnel costs and purchasing power are taken into account. In fact, Army Chief of Staff Mark Milley made that argument in front of a Senate Defense Appropriations Subcommittee in May 2018." source: https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/043015/us-vs-china-military-budget.asp -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 13:37:07 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/27/20 11:28 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/27/2020 11:20 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 11:11 AM, Tim wrote: Mr. Luddite - hide quoted text - On 3/27/2020 11:03 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 10:58 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/27/2020 10:28 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 10:10 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: It didn't take a Chinese hyper-sonic cruise missile to put a US aircraft carrier out of commission. All it took was a virus. Does it matter? We should scrap at least half the navy and stop wasting money on big new ships. It does cause one to realize how vulnerable we may be everywhere to biological warfare. We're not about to get into a shooting war with a nuclear power and the terrorists around the world aren't stymied by their comrades being killed en masse, so what's the point? These ships are vulnerable. Better we should build more hospital ships and dispatch them where needed around the world. We'd be spending far less and building good will. You don't seem to understand what an aircraft carrier and the task forces they operate with are for. “ Honestly, I doubt he cares to know Which of our enemies with missiles and nukes are going to be deterred by aircraft carriers? Any smart enemy knows now that all it has to do is unleash a biological weapon in a half dozen U.S. cities to bring us to our knees. I am just very thankful that people like yourself have no part in determining what our National Defense policies should be. Quack quack quack. One of your more worthwhile response, Krause. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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On 3/27/2020 4:09 PM, John wrote:
On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 13:37:07 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 11:28 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/27/2020 11:20 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 11:11 AM, Tim wrote: Mr. Luddite - hide quoted text - On 3/27/2020 11:03 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 10:58 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/27/2020 10:28 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/20 10:10 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: It didn't take a Chinese hyper-sonic cruise missile to put a US aircraft carrier out of commission. All it took was a virus. Does it matter? We should scrap at least half the navy and stop wasting money on big new ships. It does cause one to realize how vulnerable we may be everywhere to biological warfare. We're not about to get into a shooting war with a nuclear power and the terrorists around the world aren't stymied by their comrades being killed en masse, so what's the point? These ships are vulnerable. Better we should build more hospital ships and dispatch them where needed around the world. We'd be spending far less and building good will. You don't seem to understand what an aircraft carrier and the task forces they operate with are for. “ Honestly, I doubt he cares to know Which of our enemies with missiles and nukes are going to be deterred by aircraft carriers? Any smart enemy knows now that all it has to do is unleash a biological weapon in a half dozen U.S. cities to bring us to our knees. I am just very thankful that people like yourself have no part in determining what our National Defense policies should be. Quack quack quack. One of your more worthwhile response, Krause. LOL! (quoted and replied to for Harry's benefit) -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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