He is projecting that 2.7 million New Yorkers had the virus and
spontaneously recovered. He is basing that on projecting the largest
number of antibody testing results we have seen, across his
population.
That knocks the hell out of a lot of the scary **** if it is true. His
death rate is around 0.3% (infected to dead)
That makes it about as dangerous as riding a motorcycle for 5 years.
;-) (6 million motorcycles, 4500 dead every year.

BTW if you could project New York's numbers nation wide, 50 Million of
us are over it

.... Or the tests the left has pushed Cuomo into using is bogus ;-)

It is funny how guys like Harry suddenly became Libertarian when
people point out the reason why the feds don't test everyone is that
there are no tests that have actually gone through a real FDA study
and we don't want to make 350 million bad tests.
At that point they start wanting to short cut the FDA study process
and cut the red tape. (what they did to get the tests Cuomo is using)
That was what Gary wanted ;-)

It will be great until we find out Cuomo's tests are bad.

OTOH if it turns out they were right, all of this lockdown starts
looking pretty silly.

On 4/23/2020 9:12 PM, wrote:
He is projecting that 2.7 million New Yorkers had the virus and
spontaneously recovered. He is basing that on projecting the largest
number of antibody testing results we have seen, across his
population.
That knocks the hell out of a lot of the scary **** if it is true. His
death rate is around 0.3% (infected to dead)
That makes it about as dangerous as riding a motorcycle for 5 years.
;-) (6 million motorcycles, 4500 dead every year.

BTW if you could project New York's numbers nation wide, 50 Million of
us are over it

... Or the tests the left has pushed Cuomo into using is bogus ;-)

It is funny how guys like Harry suddenly became Libertarian when
people point out the reason why the feds don't test everyone is that
there are no tests that have actually gone through a real FDA study
and we don't want to make 350 million bad tests.
At that point they start wanting to short cut the FDA study process
and cut the red tape. (what they did to get the tests Cuomo is using)
That was what Gary wanted ;-)

It will be great until we find out Cuomo's tests are bad.

OTOH if it turns out they were right, all of this lockdown starts
looking pretty silly.



Seems like the more data that is collected, the more questions
it raises.

Massachusetts is getting hit pretty hard this week. The charts
I am maintaining in Excel are depressing. No indication of a
plateau or slow down at all. Just within Plymouth County there
were 276 more cases over yesterday which is a large increase
compared to previous days and weeks.

State-wide we have 46,043 confirmed cases and 2,360 deaths.

The "models" indicate the peak here will be on April 28-29.
Hope they are correct.



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On 4/23/2020 9:12 PM, wrote:
He is projecting that 2.7 million New Yorkers had the virus and
spontaneously recovered. He is basing that on projecting the largest
number of antibody testing results we have seen, across his
population.
That knocks the hell out of a lot of the scary **** if it is true. His
death rate is around 0.3% (infected to dead)
That makes it about as dangerous as riding a motorcycle for 5 years.
;-) (6 million motorcycles, 4500 dead every year.

BTW if you could project New York's numbers nation wide, 50 Million of
us are over it

... Or the tests the left has pushed Cuomo into using is bogus ;-)

It is funny how guys like Harry suddenly became Libertarian when
people point out the reason why the feds don't test everyone is that
there are no tests that have actually gone through a real FDA study
and we don't want to make 350 million bad tests.
At that point they start wanting to short cut the FDA study process
and cut the red tape. (what they did to get the tests Cuomo is using)
That was what Gary wanted ;-)

It will be great until we find out Cuomo's tests are bad.

OTOH if it turns out they were right, all of this lockdown starts
looking pretty silly.



If I were forced to cast blame for this cluster f*&$m, it would have
to be on all the scientists and experts who develop and interpret
the models being used to guess at what the results will be.
With all due respect to them, we've already seen many of the
initial assumptions made by Docs Fauci and Birx proven to be dead wrong.

The only thing proven to be effective is quarantining which
has been how epidemics and pandemics have been handled for
100's of years. Some researchers say it goes back to
5000BC in China of all places.


Some of the suggestions and recommendations that sound a
little bizarre initially just may have some credence.

Old fashioned "brain storming" often leads to some new
ways of looking at things and new ideas on how to solve
a problem. Weird ideas shouldn't be automatically rejected
just because they don't have a 2 year academia based
research study to base them on.





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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/23/2020 9:12 PM, wrote:
He is projecting that 2.7 million New Yorkers had the virus and
spontaneously recovered. He is basing that on projecting the largest
number of antibody testing results we have seen, across his
population.
That knocks the hell out of a lot of the scary **** if it is true. His
death rate is around 0.3% (infected to dead)
That makes it about as dangerous as riding a motorcycle for 5 years.
;-) (6 million motorcycles, 4500 dead every year.

BTW if you could project New York's numbers nation wide, 50 Million of
us are over it

... Or the tests the left has pushed Cuomo into using is bogus ;-)

It is funny how guys like Harry suddenly became Libertarian when
people point out the reason why the feds don't test everyone is that
there are no tests that have actually gone through a real FDA study
and we don't want to make 350 million bad tests.
At that point they start wanting to short cut the FDA study process
and cut the red tape. (what they did to get the tests Cuomo is using)
That was what Gary wanted ;-)

It will be great until we find out Cuomo's tests are bad.

OTOH if it turns out they were right, all of this lockdown starts
looking pretty silly.



If I were forced to cast blame for this cluster f*&$m, it would have
to be on all the scientists and experts who develop and interpret
the models being used to guess at what the results will be.
With all due respect to them, we've already seen many of the
initial assumptions made by Docs Fauci and Birx proven to be dead wrong.

The only thing proven to be effective is quarantining which
has been how epidemics and pandemics have been handled for
100's of years. Some researchers say it goes back to
5000BC in China of all places.


Some of the suggestions and recommendations that sound a
little bizarre initially just may have some credence.

Old fashioned "brain storming" often leads to some new
ways of looking at things and new ideas on how to solve
a problem. Weird ideas shouldn't be automatically rejected
just because they don't have a 2 year academia based
research study to base them on.






But according to some here, if there are not a lot of university letters
after your name, or not gone to several universities, you know nothing.

On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 21:35:12 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 4/23/2020 9:12 PM, wrote:
He is projecting that 2.7 million New Yorkers had the virus and
spontaneously recovered. He is basing that on projecting the largest
number of antibody testing results we have seen, across his
population.
That knocks the hell out of a lot of the scary **** if it is true. His
death rate is around 0.3% (infected to dead)
That makes it about as dangerous as riding a motorcycle for 5 years.
;-) (6 million motorcycles, 4500 dead every year.

BTW if you could project New York's numbers nation wide, 50 Million of
us are over it

... Or the tests the left has pushed Cuomo into using is bogus ;-)

It is funny how guys like Harry suddenly became Libertarian when
people point out the reason why the feds don't test everyone is that
there are no tests that have actually gone through a real FDA study
and we don't want to make 350 million bad tests.
At that point they start wanting to short cut the FDA study process
and cut the red tape. (what they did to get the tests Cuomo is using)
That was what Gary wanted ;-)

It will be great until we find out Cuomo's tests are bad.

OTOH if it turns out they were right, all of this lockdown starts
looking pretty silly.



Seems like the more data that is collected, the more questions
it raises.

Massachusetts is getting hit pretty hard this week. The charts
I am maintaining in Excel are depressing. No indication of a
plateau or slow down at all. Just within Plymouth County there
were 276 more cases over yesterday which is a large increase
compared to previous days and weeks.

State-wide we have 46,043 confirmed cases and 2,360 deaths.

The "models" indicate the peak here will be on April 28-29.
Hope they are correct.

I saw something cruising through the news that said 30% of the Mass
folks tested showed positive for antibodies. I am starting to wonder
if the test is bad or we are doing better than they want to admit

On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 22:38:22 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 4/23/2020 9:12 PM, wrote:
He is projecting that 2.7 million New Yorkers had the virus and
spontaneously recovered. He is basing that on projecting the largest
number of antibody testing results we have seen, across his
population.
That knocks the hell out of a lot of the scary **** if it is true. His
death rate is around 0.3% (infected to dead)
That makes it about as dangerous as riding a motorcycle for 5 years.
;-) (6 million motorcycles, 4500 dead every year.

BTW if you could project New York's numbers nation wide, 50 Million of
us are over it

... Or the tests the left has pushed Cuomo into using is bogus ;-)

It is funny how guys like Harry suddenly became Libertarian when
people point out the reason why the feds don't test everyone is that
there are no tests that have actually gone through a real FDA study
and we don't want to make 350 million bad tests.
At that point they start wanting to short cut the FDA study process
and cut the red tape. (what they did to get the tests Cuomo is using)
That was what Gary wanted ;-)

It will be great until we find out Cuomo's tests are bad.

OTOH if it turns out they were right, all of this lockdown starts
looking pretty silly.



If I were forced to cast blame for this cluster f*&$m, it would have
to be on all the scientists and experts who develop and interpret
the models being used to guess at what the results will be.
With all due respect to them, we've already seen many of the
initial assumptions made by Docs Fauci and Birx proven to be dead wrong.

The only thing proven to be effective is quarantining which
has been how epidemics and pandemics have been handled for
100's of years. Some researchers say it goes back to
5000BC in China of all places.


Some of the suggestions and recommendations that sound a
little bizarre initially just may have some credence.

Old fashioned "brain storming" often leads to some new
ways of looking at things and new ideas on how to solve
a problem. Weird ideas shouldn't be automatically rejected
just because they don't have a 2 year academia based
research study to base them on.

If it is true that we have between 14% (NY) and 30% (MA) who had this
and got over it, maybe we are locking down a lot of people
unnecessarily because, obviously they got this before the lockdown and
got over it.
I still bet the test is bad.

Bill Wrote in message:
Mr. Luddite wrote: On 4/23/2020 9:12 PM, wrote: He is projecting that 2.7 million New Yorkers had the virus and spontaneously recovered. He is basing that on projecting the largest number of antibody testing results we have seen, across his population. That knocks the hell out of a lot of the scary **** if it is true. His death rate is around 0.3% (infected to dead) That makes it about as dangerous as riding a motorcycle for 5 years. ;-) (6 million motorcycles, 4500 dead every year. BTW if you could project New York's numbers nation wide, 50 Million of us are over it ... Or the tests the left has pushed Cuomo into using is bogus ;-) It is funny how guys like Harry suddenly became Libertarian when people point out the reason why the feds don't test everyone is that there are no tests that have actually gone through a real FDA study and we don't want to make 350 million bad tests. At that point they start wanting to short cut the FDA study process and cut the red tape. (what they did to get the tests Cuomo is using) That was what Gary wanted ;-) It will be great until we find out Cuomo's tests are bad. OTOH if it turns out they were right, all of this lockdown starts looking pretty silly. If I were forced to cast blame for this cluster f*&$m, it would have to be on all the scientists and experts who develop and interpret the models being used to guess at what the results will be. With all due respect to them, we've already seen many of the initial assumptions made by Docs Fauci and Birx proven to be dead wrong. The only thing proven to be effective is quarantining which has been how epidemics and pandemics have been handled for 100's of years. Some researchers say it goes back to 5000BC in China of all places. Some of the suggestions and recommendations that sound a little bizarre initially just may have some credence. Old fashioned "brain storming" often leads to some new ways of looking at things and new ideas on how to solve a problem. Weird ideas shouldn't be automatically rejected just because they don't have a 2 year academia based research study to base them on. But according to some here, if there are not a lot of university lettersafter your name, or not gone to several universities, you know nothing.

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On 4/23/20 11:55 PM, Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/23/2020 9:12 PM, wrote:
He is projecting that 2.7 million New Yorkers had the virus and
spontaneously recovered. He is basing that on projecting the largest
number of antibody testing results we have seen, across his
population.
That knocks the hell out of a lot of the scary **** if it is true. His
death rate is around 0.3% (infected to dead)
That makes it about as dangerous as riding a motorcycle for 5 years.
;-) (6 million motorcycles, 4500 dead every year.

BTW if you could project New York's numbers nation wide, 50 Million of
us are over it

... Or the tests the left has pushed Cuomo into using is bogus ;-)

It is funny how guys like Harry suddenly became Libertarian when
people point out the reason why the feds don't test everyone is that
there are no tests that have actually gone through a real FDA study
and we don't want to make 350 million bad tests.
At that point they start wanting to short cut the FDA study process
and cut the red tape. (what they did to get the tests Cuomo is using)
That was what Gary wanted ;-)

It will be great until we find out Cuomo's tests are bad.

OTOH if it turns out they were right, all of this lockdown starts
looking pretty silly.



If I were forced to cast blame for this cluster f*&$m, it would have
to be on all the scientists and experts who develop and interpret
the models being used to guess at what the results will be.
With all due respect to them, we've already seen many of the
initial assumptions made by Docs Fauci and Birx proven to be dead wrong.

The only thing proven to be effective is quarantining which
has been how epidemics and pandemics have been handled for
100's of years. Some researchers say it goes back to
5000BC in China of all places.


Some of the suggestions and recommendations that sound a
little bizarre initially just may have some credence.

Old fashioned "brain storming" often leads to some new
ways of looking at things and new ideas on how to solve
a problem. Weird ideas shouldn't be automatically rejected
just because they don't have a 2 year academia based
research study to base them on.






But according to some here, if there are not a lot of university letters
after your name, or not gone to several universities, you know nothing.


Bilious, I suggest you daily swallow a glassful of Lysol and shove a UV
light bulb up your ass, per Donald Trump, the "lettered" scientist.

Report back to us.

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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/23/20 11:55 PM, Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/23/2020 9:12 PM, wrote:
He is projecting that 2.7 million New Yorkers had the virus and
spontaneously recovered. He is basing that on projecting the largest
number of antibody testing results we have seen, across his
population.
That knocks the hell out of a lot of the scary **** if it is true. His
death rate is around 0.3% (infected to dead)
That makes it about as dangerous as riding a motorcycle for 5 years.
;-) (6 million motorcycles, 4500 dead every year.

BTW if you could project New York's numbers nation wide, 50 Million of
us are over it

... Or the tests the left has pushed Cuomo into using is bogus ;-)

It is funny how guys like Harry suddenly became Libertarian when
people point out the reason why the feds don't test everyone is that
there are no tests that have actually gone through a real FDA study
and we don't want to make 350 million bad tests.
At that point they start wanting to short cut the FDA study process
and cut the red tape. (what they did to get the tests Cuomo is using)
That was what Gary wanted ;-)

It will be great until we find out Cuomo's tests are bad.

OTOH if it turns out they were right, all of this lockdown starts
looking pretty silly.



If I were forced to cast blame for this cluster f*&$m, it would have
to be on all the scientists and experts who develop and interpret
the models being used to guess at what the results will be.
With all due respect to them, we've already seen many of the
initial assumptions made by Docs Fauci and Birx proven to be dead wrong.

The only thing proven to be effective is quarantining which
has been how epidemics and pandemics have been handled for
100's of years. Some researchers say it goes back to
5000BC in China of all places.


Some of the suggestions and recommendations that sound a
little bizarre initially just may have some credence.

Old fashioned "brain storming" often leads to some new
ways of looking at things and new ideas on how to solve
a problem. Weird ideas shouldn't be automatically rejected
just because they don't have a 2 year academia based
research study to base them on.






But according to some here, if there are not a lot of university letters
after your name, or not gone to several universities, you know nothing.


Bilious, I suggest you daily swallow a glassful of Lysol and shove a UV
light bulb up your ass, per Donald Trump, the "lettered" scientist.

Report back to us.


Your letters after your name, have not helped you to not be a deadbeat,
whose biggest claim to professional writing is massive cut and paste
plagiarizing.

On 4/24/20 12:12 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/23/20 11:55 PM, Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/23/2020 9:12 PM, wrote:
He is projecting that 2.7 million New Yorkers had the virus and
spontaneously recovered. He is basing that on projecting the largest
number of antibody testing results we have seen, across his
population.
That knocks the hell out of a lot of the scary **** if it is true. His
death rate is around 0.3% (infected to dead)
That makes it about as dangerous as riding a motorcycle for 5 years.
;-) (6 million motorcycles, 4500 dead every year.

BTW if you could project New York's numbers nation wide, 50 Million of
us are over it

... Or the tests the left has pushed Cuomo into using is bogus ;-)

It is funny how guys like Harry suddenly became Libertarian when
people point out the reason why the feds don't test everyone is that
there are no tests that have actually gone through a real FDA study
and we don't want to make 350 million bad tests.
At that point they start wanting to short cut the FDA study process
and cut the red tape. (what they did to get the tests Cuomo is using)
That was what Gary wanted ;-)

It will be great until we find out Cuomo's tests are bad.

OTOH if it turns out they were right, all of this lockdown starts
looking pretty silly.



If I were forced to cast blame for this cluster f*&$m, it would have
to be on all the scientists and experts who develop and interpret
the models being used to guess at what the results will be.
With all due respect to them, we've already seen many of the
initial assumptions made by Docs Fauci and Birx proven to be dead wrong.

The only thing proven to be effective is quarantining which
has been how epidemics and pandemics have been handled for
100's of years. Some researchers say it goes back to
5000BC in China of all places.


Some of the suggestions and recommendations that sound a
little bizarre initially just may have some credence.

Old fashioned "brain storming" often leads to some new
ways of looking at things and new ideas on how to solve
a problem. Weird ideas shouldn't be automatically rejected
just because they don't have a 2 year academia based
research study to base them on.






But according to some here, if there are not a lot of university letters
after your name, or not gone to several universities, you know nothing.


Bilious, I suggest you daily swallow a glassful of Lysol and shove a UV
light bulb up your ass, per Donald Trump, the "lettered" scientist.

Report back to us.


Your letters after your name, have not helped you to not be a deadbeat,
whose biggest claim to professional writing is massive cut and paste
plagiarizing.


I don't "post" professional writing in this septic tank of
right-wingers, Bilious. Why would I? You've never seen my "professional
writing." Ergo, you are in ignorance, as usual.

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