United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
 

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.
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On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 at 8:16:34 AM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:


Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

Only if they can bust the airline worker's unions. The big salaries, bennies and perks they have are what has driven your knees into the seat back in front of you.

United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
 

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On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 at 8:16:34 AM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote: Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent service at decent prices, but I doubt it.Only if they can bust the airline worker's unions. The big salaries, bennies and perks they have are what has driven your knees into the seat back in front of you.

In Fat Harry's utopian world the consumer is entitled to goods and
services good,cheap and fast. In the real world you have to
choose 2 out of 3. Eliminate unions and you can get closer to
having utopia. Pitting unions against the producer AND the
consumer is like the butcher putting his thumb on the scale. Fat
Harry is acustomed to living high off the hog on someone elses
dime so naturally, he is a union man all the way. And I use the
term man loosely.
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On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.

United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
 

On Tue, 5 May 2020 07:27:53 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 at 8:16:34 AM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:


Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

Only if they can bust the airline worker's unions. The big salaries, bennies and perks they have are what has driven your knees into the seat back in front of you.

I don't even think that is true. What really did it is the desire of
fliers to be able to fly to the other coast for $99. They are willing
to give up anything for that price.
All deregulation did was allow the airlines to sell them what they
asked for at a price they are willing to pay.

United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
 

wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 07:27:53 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 at 8:16:34 AM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:


Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

Only if they can bust the airline worker's unions. The big salaries,
bennies and perks they have are what has driven your knees into the seat
back in front of you.

I don't even think that is true. What really did it is the desire of
fliers to be able to fly to the other coast for $99. They are willing
to give up anything for that price.
All deregulation did was allow the airlines to sell them what they
asked for at a price they are willing to pay.


Most of United pay is not that high. When the pilots union took over
control through an ESOP the employees other than the pilots got screwed.
Then the pilots found out, there was a lack of income to United. Newer
pilots salaries were much lower. And as Fretwell states, $99 fares cuts
services to the bone.

United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
 

On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.

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United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
 

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.


And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation.

United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
 

On Tue, 5 May 2020 13:47:29 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.

That sounds about right although there are some ways to get a better
price and still ride up front. You do get extra stuff. Usually you are
only sharing that little bathroom with a dozen other people, not 2
bathrooms for 100 people. You get priority boarding, the fast line
through TSA, Fast line at the ticket counter if you need something,
checked bags are included, up to 70 pounds each, free drinks, better
service overall and the seat is a LOT bigger.
What do you think a fair price for a flight should be, assuming you
want it to include checked bags, a seat that is not cramped so badly
the person in front of you can't use the seat recliner, maybe a snack
and a soft drink?
If you want to pay Walmart prices for an ala carte ticket, expect to
pay extra for everything. That is what ala carte means.

United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
 

On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 at 1:44:58 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 07:27:53 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 at 8:16:34 AM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:


Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

Only if they can bust the airline worker's unions. The big salaries,
bennies and perks they have are what has driven your knees into the seat
back in front of you.

I don't even think that is true. What really did it is the desire of
fliers to be able to fly to the other coast for $99. They are willing
to give up anything for that price.
All deregulation did was allow the airlines to sell them what they
asked for at a price they are willing to pay.


Most of United pay is not that high. When the pilots union took over
control through an ESOP the employees other than the pilots got screwed.
Then the pilots found out, there was a lack of income to United. Newer
pilots salaries were much lower. And as Fretwell states, $99 fares cuts
services to the bone.

What you and Greg are talking about regarding the cheap fares is certainly a factor, but there are (were) some pretty high salaries in the business as well, and are nearly all unionized. United isn't a great example for pay, but Delta, American and others are. Things may have changed a bit over the last few years, but I've been working pretty closely with most of the majors and many minors over the last 25+ and have a little inside knowledge.

I didn't get to stand on the roof of the ramp control tower on top of the A concourse in Atlanta, taking pictures, for nothing. :) Lost count of how many towers I've been in, and how many airports I've been badged for.

United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
 

On 5/5/20 9:40 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 13:47:29 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.

That sounds about right although there are some ways to get a better
price and still ride up front. You do get extra stuff. Usually you are
only sharing that little bathroom with a dozen other people, not 2
bathrooms for 100 people. You get priority boarding, the fast line
through TSA, Fast line at the ticket counter if you need something,
checked bags are included, up to 70 pounds each, free drinks, better
service overall and the seat is a LOT bigger.
What do you think a fair price for a flight should be, assuming you
want it to include checked bags, a seat that is not cramped so badly
the person in front of you can't use the seat recliner, maybe a snack
and a soft drink?
If you want to pay Walmart prices for an ala carte ticket, expect to
pay extra for everything. That is what ala carte means.


On most of the planes I've been on in recent years, the toilet in first
class is accessible to anyone on the plane. I've flown first class in
about half the flights I've taken in the last two decades.

Priority boarding doesn't make the plane take off faster. A few cheap
drinks and a crappy airline meal doesn't add up to the increase in
price. Yes, the seat is bigger.

I think the airlines have ****ed themselves over, and I don't mean the
corona-related troubles.

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United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
 

On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.


And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation.

My "Y" fare to San Francisco from Dulles was $498 in 1974. That would
be about $2600 now with inflation. When we flew to SFO for our
California trip in 2009, our first class tickets were about $1300 each
and flying from Ft Myers is more expensive than flying from DC.

United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
 

On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.


And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation.

BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I
went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35
passengers.

United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
 

On 5/5/20 9:57 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.


And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation.

BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I
went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35
passengers.


I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few
flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a
flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That
is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks.


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United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
 

On Tue, 5 May 2020 21:53:18 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 9:40 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 13:47:29 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.

That sounds about right although there are some ways to get a better
price and still ride up front. You do get extra stuff. Usually you are
only sharing that little bathroom with a dozen other people, not 2
bathrooms for 100 people. You get priority boarding, the fast line
through TSA, Fast line at the ticket counter if you need something,
checked bags are included, up to 70 pounds each, free drinks, better
service overall and the seat is a LOT bigger.
What do you think a fair price for a flight should be, assuming you
want it to include checked bags, a seat that is not cramped so badly
the person in front of you can't use the seat recliner, maybe a snack
and a soft drink?
If you want to pay Walmart prices for an ala carte ticket, expect to
pay extra for everything. That is what ala carte means.


On most of the planes I've been on in recent years, the toilet in first
class is accessible to anyone on the plane.

That has happened on a few flights I was on but if a first class
passenger complains, they pull the curtain and turn the cattle car
folks back.

I've flown first class in
about half the flights I've taken in the last two decades.

Priority boarding doesn't make the plane take off faster. A few cheap
drinks and a crappy airline meal doesn't add up to the increase in
price. Yes, the seat is bigger.

That is worth a lot to me right there. I don't want to be fighting
with some fat **** in the center seat for the armrest or his blubber
flowing over the armrest.
I also like having the free drinks, snack tray and maybe a meal. It
makes the flight more pleasant and not like a MAC flight on a troop
transport plane.

I think the airlines have ****ed themselves over, and I don't mean the
corona-related troubles.

How is that?

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On Tue, 5 May 2020 22:04:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 9:57 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.


And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation.

BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I
went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35
passengers.


I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few
flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a
flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That
is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks.

It was really the non-stop to SFO at the time other than going to BWI
and that was no picnic either. They didn't fly any long haul planes
out of DCA. If you were going to California, you were changing planes
somewhere in the midwest, probably ORD or MSP. On American it was
Chicago.

United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
 

On 5/5/20 11:06 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 22:04:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 9:57 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.


And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation.

BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I
went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35
passengers.


I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few
flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a
flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That
is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks.

It was really the non-stop to SFO at the time other than going to BWI
and that was no picnic either. They didn't fly any long haul planes
out of DCA. If you were going to California, you were changing planes
somewhere in the midwest, probably ORD or MSP. On American it was
Chicago.


Ahh, BWI. For some reason, despite the amount of traffic it handles, it
is serious understaffed at the gates and has few decent restaurants to
occupy yourself while waiting for a late plane. Parking is also a pain
in the ass.

Generally speaking, we have lots of really crappy airports.

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United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
 

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 11:06 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 22:04:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 9:57 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.


And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation.

BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I
went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35
passengers.


I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few
flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a
flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That
is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks.

It was really the non-stop to SFO at the time other than going to BWI
and that was no picnic either. They didn't fly any long haul planes
out of DCA. If you were going to California, you were changing planes
somewhere in the midwest, probably ORD or MSP. On American it was
Chicago.


Ahh, BWI. For some reason, despite the amount of traffic it handles, it
is serious understaffed at the gates and has few decent restaurants to
occupy yourself while waiting for a late plane. Parking is also a pain
in the ass.

Generally speaking, we have lots of really crappy airports.


The government builds the airports. The staffing is probably because that
is what affordable with $99 fares.

United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
 

On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 1:43:51 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 11:06 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 22:04:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 9:57 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.


And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation.

BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I
went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35
passengers.


I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few
flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a
flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That
is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks.

It was really the non-stop to SFO at the time other than going to BWI
and that was no picnic either. They didn't fly any long haul planes
out of DCA. If you were going to California, you were changing planes
somewhere in the midwest, probably ORD or MSP. On American it was
Chicago.


Ahh, BWI. For some reason, despite the amount of traffic it handles, it
is serious understaffed at the gates and has few decent restaurants to
occupy yourself while waiting for a late plane. Parking is also a pain
in the ass.

Generally speaking, we have lots of really crappy airports.


The government builds the airports. The staffing is probably because that
is what affordable with $99 fares.

Generally, airports are run by federal or state governments, and are funded by the airlines that fly into them in the form of fees for landing, gates, etc. Harry's crappy airport:

"The Maryland Aviation Administration (MAA) is the owner and operator of Baltimore/Washington International Thurgood Marshall Airport (BWI) and Martin State Airport. We invite you to explore this web site, which focuses on the government agency aspects of the MAA."

His wonderful Maryland democrats run his poorly managed and funded airport.

Heh, heh.

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Keyser Soze wrote:

I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few
flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a
flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles.
That is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks.



Spectacular writing job!

United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
 

On Wed, 6 May 2020 09:19:33 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 11:06 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 22:04:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 9:57 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.


And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation.

BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I
went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35
passengers.


I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few
flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a
flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That
is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks.

It was really the non-stop to SFO at the time other than going to BWI
and that was no picnic either. They didn't fly any long haul planes
out of DCA. If you were going to California, you were changing planes
somewhere in the midwest, probably ORD or MSP. On American it was
Chicago.


Ahh, BWI. For some reason, despite the amount of traffic it handles, it
is serious understaffed at the gates and has few decent restaurants to
occupy yourself while waiting for a late plane. Parking is also a pain
in the ass.

Generally speaking, we have lots of really crappy airports.

RSW seems OK. ;-)

Other than being very busy ATL is OK too, once you find your way
around.

Generally speaking airports all suck tho. LGA has to suck the worst
tho.
"La Guardia" is Italian for "2 hours late".

United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
 

wrote:
On Wed, 6 May 2020 09:19:33 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 11:06 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 22:04:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 9:57 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.


And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation.

BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I
went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35
passengers.


I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few
flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a
flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That
is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks.

It was really the non-stop to SFO at the time other than going to BWI
and that was no picnic either. They didn't fly any long haul planes
out of DCA. If you were going to California, you were changing planes
somewhere in the midwest, probably ORD or MSP. On American it was
Chicago.


Ahh, BWI. For some reason, despite the amount of traffic it handles, it
is serious understaffed at the gates and has few decent restaurants to
occupy yourself while waiting for a late plane. Parking is also a pain
in the ass.

Generally speaking, we have lots of really crappy airports.

RSW seems OK. ;-)

Other than being very busy ATL is OK too, once you find your way
around.

Generally speaking airports all suck tho. LGA has to suck the worst
tho.
"La Guardia" is Italian for "2 hours late".


Newark is where the people you only see at the carnival midway live I
think.

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Alex Wrote in message:
Keyser Soze wrote: I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks.Spectacular writing job!

Like I said before, he's a 10 year old dressed up in a fat man costume.
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On 5/7/20 1:27 AM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 6 May 2020 09:19:33 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 11:06 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 22:04:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 9:57 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.


And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation.

BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I
went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35
passengers.


I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few
flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a
flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That
is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks.

It was really the non-stop to SFO at the time other than going to BWI
and that was no picnic either. They didn't fly any long haul planes
out of DCA. If you were going to California, you were changing planes
somewhere in the midwest, probably ORD or MSP. On American it was
Chicago.


Ahh, BWI. For some reason, despite the amount of traffic it handles, it
is serious understaffed at the gates and has few decent restaurants to
occupy yourself while waiting for a late plane. Parking is also a pain
in the ass.

Generally speaking, we have lots of really crappy airports.

RSW seems OK. ;-)

Other than being very busy ATL is OK too, once you find your way
around.

Generally speaking airports all suck tho. LGA has to suck the worst
tho.
"La Guardia" is Italian for "2 hours late".


Newark is where the people you only see at the carnival midway live I
think.


Heheh. "ATL is ok" ATL is a huge, hot mess. As I previously stated, our
airports are decades behind what is needed. Airports all over the word
are far superior to ours in all the ways that matter to passengers, and
our airlines don't give a flying **** about passengers.

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United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
 

On Thu, 7 May 2020 07:43:19 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/7/20 1:27 AM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 6 May 2020 09:19:33 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 11:06 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 22:04:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 9:57 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.


And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation.

BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I
went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35
passengers.


I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few
flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a
flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That
is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks.

It was really the non-stop to SFO at the time other than going to BWI
and that was no picnic either. They didn't fly any long haul planes
out of DCA. If you were going to California, you were changing planes
somewhere in the midwest, probably ORD or MSP. On American it was
Chicago.


Ahh, BWI. For some reason, despite the amount of traffic it handles, it
is serious understaffed at the gates and has few decent restaurants to
occupy yourself while waiting for a late plane. Parking is also a pain
in the ass.

Generally speaking, we have lots of really crappy airports.

RSW seems OK. ;-)

Other than being very busy ATL is OK too, once you find your way
around.

Generally speaking airports all suck tho. LGA has to suck the worst
tho.
"La Guardia" is Italian for "2 hours late".


Newark is where the people you only see at the carnival midway live I
think.


Heheh. "ATL is ok" ATL is a huge, hot mess. As I previously stated, our
airports are decades behind what is needed. Airports all over the word
are far superior to ours in all the ways that matter to passengers, and
our airlines don't give a flying **** about passengers.


===

It's important to note that the airlines do not design and build
airports.

Speaking of airlines, you can buy their stock very inexpensively now.
If you had any money you could buy some and become an activist
investor.

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On 5/7/2020 1:40 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 7 May 2020 07:43:19 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/7/20 1:27 AM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 6 May 2020 09:19:33 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 11:06 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 22:04:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 9:57 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.


And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation.

BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I
went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35
passengers.


I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few
flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a
flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That
is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks.

It was really the non-stop to SFO at the time other than going to BWI
and that was no picnic either. They didn't fly any long haul planes
out of DCA. If you were going to California, you were changing planes
somewhere in the midwest, probably ORD or MSP. On American it was
Chicago.


Ahh, BWI. For some reason, despite the amount of traffic it handles, it
is serious understaffed at the gates and has few decent restaurants to
occupy yourself while waiting for a late plane. Parking is also a pain
in the ass.

Generally speaking, we have lots of really crappy airports.

RSW seems OK. ;-)

Other than being very busy ATL is OK too, once you find your way
around.

Generally speaking airports all suck tho. LGA has to suck the worst
tho.
"La Guardia" is Italian for "2 hours late".


Newark is where the people you only see at the carnival midway live I
think.


Heheh. "ATL is ok" ATL is a huge, hot mess. As I previously stated, our
airports are decades behind what is needed. Airports all over the word
are far superior to ours in all the ways that matter to passengers, and
our airlines don't give a flying **** about passengers.


===




It's important to note that the airlines do not design and build
airports.

Speaking of airlines, you can buy their stock very inexpensively now.
If you had any money you could buy some and become an activist
investor.



Problem is trying to determine which ones will survive and which ones
will go belly-up or be acquired.



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On 5/7/20 1:40 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 7 May 2020 07:43:19 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/7/20 1:27 AM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 6 May 2020 09:19:33 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 11:06 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 22:04:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 9:57 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.


And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation.

BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I
went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35
passengers.


I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few
flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a
flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That
is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks.

It was really the non-stop to SFO at the time other than going to BWI
and that was no picnic either. They didn't fly any long haul planes
out of DCA. If you were going to California, you were changing planes
somewhere in the midwest, probably ORD or MSP. On American it was
Chicago.


Ahh, BWI. For some reason, despite the amount of traffic it handles, it
is serious understaffed at the gates and has few decent restaurants to
occupy yourself while waiting for a late plane. Parking is also a pain
in the ass.

Generally speaking, we have lots of really crappy airports.

RSW seems OK. ;-)

Other than being very busy ATL is OK too, once you find your way
around.

Generally speaking airports all suck tho. LGA has to suck the worst
tho.
"La Guardia" is Italian for "2 hours late".


Newark is where the people you only see at the carnival midway live I
think.


Heheh. "ATL is ok" ATL is a huge, hot mess. As I previously stated, our
airports are decades behind what is needed. Airports all over the word
are far superior to ours in all the ways that matter to passengers, and
our airlines don't give a flying **** about passengers.


===

It's important to note that the airlines do not design and build
airports.

Speaking of airlines, you can buy their stock very inexpensively now.
If you had any money you could buy some and become an activist
investor.


Yeah, I'm sure. So, where's the list of airlines that will survive and
thrive and the list of airlines that will take a Trump?

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United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
 

On Thu, 7 May 2020 05:27:06 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 6 May 2020 09:19:33 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 11:06 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 22:04:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 9:57 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.


And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation.

BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I
went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35
passengers.


I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few
flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a
flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That
is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks.

It was really the non-stop to SFO at the time other than going to BWI
and that was no picnic either. They didn't fly any long haul planes
out of DCA. If you were going to California, you were changing planes
somewhere in the midwest, probably ORD or MSP. On American it was
Chicago.


Ahh, BWI. For some reason, despite the amount of traffic it handles, it
is serious understaffed at the gates and has few decent restaurants to
occupy yourself while waiting for a late plane. Parking is also a pain
in the ass.

Generally speaking, we have lots of really crappy airports.

RSW seems OK. ;-)

Other than being very busy ATL is OK too, once you find your way
around.

Generally speaking airports all suck tho. LGA has to suck the worst
tho.
"La Guardia" is Italian for "2 hours late".


Newark is where the people you only see at the carnival midway live I
think.

I only flew out of Newark once and compared to LGA, I thought it was
OK.

United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
 

On Thu, 7 May 2020 07:43:19 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/7/20 1:27 AM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 6 May 2020 09:19:33 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 11:06 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 22:04:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 9:57 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.


And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation.

BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I
went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35
passengers.


I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few
flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a
flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That
is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks.

It was really the non-stop to SFO at the time other than going to BWI
and that was no picnic either. They didn't fly any long haul planes
out of DCA. If you were going to California, you were changing planes
somewhere in the midwest, probably ORD or MSP. On American it was
Chicago.


Ahh, BWI. For some reason, despite the amount of traffic it handles, it
is serious understaffed at the gates and has few decent restaurants to
occupy yourself while waiting for a late plane. Parking is also a pain
in the ass.

Generally speaking, we have lots of really crappy airports.

RSW seems OK. ;-)

Other than being very busy ATL is OK too, once you find your way
around.

Generally speaking airports all suck tho. LGA has to suck the worst
tho.
"La Guardia" is Italian for "2 hours late".


Newark is where the people you only see at the carnival midway live I
think.


Heheh. "ATL is ok" ATL is a huge, hot mess. As I previously stated, our
airports are decades behind what is needed. Airports all over the word
are far superior to ours in all the ways that matter to passengers, and
our airlines don't give a flying **** about passengers.

You were talking about restaurants. ATL has pretty nice ones and the
train makes them all pretty easy to get to. I never really "parked"
there but getting a rental car is easy and they seem fairly well
staffed. I am always on Delta and that is their main hub so that may
be part of the reason I think they are OK. Generally all of my
connecting flights are in the same concourse and usually the gates are
within sight of each other. I have been to or through ATL a bunch of
times because Atlanta was also an IBM destination. It is also the main
hub out of RSW. The joke here is that if you die and go to heaven, you
still have to change planes in Atlanta.

United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
 

On Thu, 07 May 2020 17:55:22 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 7 May 2020 05:27:06 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 6 May 2020 09:19:33 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 11:06 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 22:04:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 9:57 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.


And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation.

BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I
went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35
passengers.


I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few
flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a
flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That
is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks.

It was really the non-stop to SFO at the time other than going to BWI
and that was no picnic either. They didn't fly any long haul planes
out of DCA. If you were going to California, you were changing planes
somewhere in the midwest, probably ORD or MSP. On American it was
Chicago.


Ahh, BWI. For some reason, despite the amount of traffic it handles, it
is serious understaffed at the gates and has few decent restaurants to
occupy yourself while waiting for a late plane. Parking is also a pain
in the ass.

Generally speaking, we have lots of really crappy airports.

RSW seems OK. ;-)

Other than being very busy ATL is OK too, once you find your way
around.

Generally speaking airports all suck tho. LGA has to suck the worst
tho.
"La Guardia" is Italian for "2 hours late".


Newark is where the people you only see at the carnival midway live I
think.

I only flew out of Newark once and compared to LGA, I thought it was
OK.

===

I used to fly out of LGA quite often going back 20 years or so. It
was only a 25 minute limo ride from where I used to live so it was
quite convenient in that respect. They also had the Boston shuttle
which was a fairly decent service.

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United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
 

On Thu, 7 May 2020 13:41:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 5/7/2020 1:40 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 7 May 2020 07:43:19 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/7/20 1:27 AM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 6 May 2020 09:19:33 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 11:06 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 22:04:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 9:57 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.


And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation.

BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I
went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35
passengers.


I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few
flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a
flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That
is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks.

It was really the non-stop to SFO at the time other than going to BWI
and that was no picnic either. They didn't fly any long haul planes
out of DCA. If you were going to California, you were changing planes
somewhere in the midwest, probably ORD or MSP. On American it was
Chicago.


Ahh, BWI. For some reason, despite the amount of traffic it handles, it
is serious understaffed at the gates and has few decent restaurants to
occupy yourself while waiting for a late plane. Parking is also a pain
in the ass.

Generally speaking, we have lots of really crappy airports.

RSW seems OK. ;-)

Other than being very busy ATL is OK too, once you find your way
around.

Generally speaking airports all suck tho. LGA has to suck the worst
tho.
"La Guardia" is Italian for "2 hours late".


Newark is where the people you only see at the carnival midway live I
think.


Heheh. "ATL is ok" ATL is a huge, hot mess. As I previously stated, our
airports are decades behind what is needed. Airports all over the word
are far superior to ours in all the ways that matter to passengers, and
our airlines don't give a flying **** about passengers.


===




It's important to note that the airlines do not design and build
airports.

Speaking of airlines, you can buy their stock very inexpensively now.
If you had any money you could buy some and become an activist
investor.



Problem is trying to determine which ones will survive and which ones
will go belly-up or be acquired.

===

My opinion? Probably Delta and American will survive, not sure about
the others. Warren Buffet sold all of them and it's tough arguing
with him.

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United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
 

On Thu, 07 May 2020 13:40:01 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 7 May 2020 07:43:19 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/7/20 1:27 AM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 6 May 2020 09:19:33 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 11:06 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 22:04:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 9:57 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.


And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation.

BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I
went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35
passengers.


I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few
flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a
flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That
is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks.

It was really the non-stop to SFO at the time other than going to BWI
and that was no picnic either. They didn't fly any long haul planes
out of DCA. If you were going to California, you were changing planes
somewhere in the midwest, probably ORD or MSP. On American it was
Chicago.


Ahh, BWI. For some reason, despite the amount of traffic it handles, it
is serious understaffed at the gates and has few decent restaurants to
occupy yourself while waiting for a late plane. Parking is also a pain
in the ass.

Generally speaking, we have lots of really crappy airports.

RSW seems OK. ;-)

Other than being very busy ATL is OK too, once you find your way
around.

Generally speaking airports all suck tho. LGA has to suck the worst
tho.
"La Guardia" is Italian for "2 hours late".


Newark is where the people you only see at the carnival midway live I
think.


Heheh. "ATL is ok" ATL is a huge, hot mess. As I previously stated, our
airports are decades behind what is needed. Airports all over the word
are far superior to ours in all the ways that matter to passengers, and
our airlines don't give a flying **** about passengers.


===

It's important to note that the airlines do not design and build
airports.

Speaking of airlines, you can buy their stock very inexpensively now.
If you had any money you could buy some and become an activist
investor.

I doubt Harry's 5 shares is going to swing a stockholder meeting.

United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
 

On Thu, 07 May 2020 18:12:24 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 7 May 2020 13:41:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 5/7/2020 1:40 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 7 May 2020 07:43:19 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/7/20 1:27 AM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 6 May 2020 09:19:33 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 11:06 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 22:04:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 9:57 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.


And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation.

BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I
went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35
passengers.


I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few
flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a
flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That
is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks.

It was really the non-stop to SFO at the time other than going to BWI
and that was no picnic either. They didn't fly any long haul planes
out of DCA. If you were going to California, you were changing planes
somewhere in the midwest, probably ORD or MSP. On American it was
Chicago.


Ahh, BWI. For some reason, despite the amount of traffic it handles, it
is serious understaffed at the gates and has few decent restaurants to
occupy yourself while waiting for a late plane. Parking is also a pain
in the ass.

Generally speaking, we have lots of really crappy airports.

RSW seems OK. ;-)

Other than being very busy ATL is OK too, once you find your way
around.

Generally speaking airports all suck tho. LGA has to suck the worst
tho.
"La Guardia" is Italian for "2 hours late".


Newark is where the people you only see at the carnival midway live I
think.


Heheh. "ATL is ok" ATL is a huge, hot mess. As I previously stated, our
airports are decades behind what is needed. Airports all over the word
are far superior to ours in all the ways that matter to passengers, and
our airlines don't give a flying **** about passengers.


===




It's important to note that the airlines do not design and build
airports.

Speaking of airlines, you can buy their stock very inexpensively now.
If you had any money you could buy some and become an activist
investor.



Problem is trying to determine which ones will survive and which ones
will go belly-up or be acquired.

===

My opinion? Probably Delta and American will survive, not sure about
the others. Warren Buffet sold all of them and it's tough arguing
with him.

I guess you should see if he buys back in. I was never really
interested in airlines. I like something I think I understand a little
more.

United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
 

On 5/6/2020 9:19 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 11:06 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 22:04:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 9:57 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who
are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its
shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to
remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier,
service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to
decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling
employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained
by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer —
said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be
robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned
restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was
$900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.


And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation?Â* Figure in
inflation.

BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I
went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35
passengers.


I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few
flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a
flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That
is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks.

It was really the non-stop to SFO at the time other than going to BWI
and that was no picnic either. They didn't fly any long haul planes
out of DCA. If you were going to California, you were changing planes
somewhere in the midwest, probably ORD or MSP. On American it was
Chicago.


Ahh, BWI. For some reason, despite the amount of traffic it handles, it
is serious understaffed at the gates and has few decent restaurants to
occupy yourself while waiting for a late plane. Parking is also a pain
in the ass.

Generally speaking, we have lots of really crappy airports.

More reasons to move out of that ******** you live in. But then there is
another problem. Who in their right minds would welcome you as a neighbor.

--
Pity Fat Harry. His ability to produce rational thought on his own, no
longer exists, if it ever did at all.

United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
 

In article , says...
Newark is where the people you only see at the carnival midway live I
think.


Heheh. "ATL is ok" ATL is a huge, hot mess. As I previously stated, our
airports are decades behind what is needed. Airports all over the word
are far superior to ours in all the ways that matter to passengers, and
our airlines don't give a flying **** about passengers.


===

It's important to note that the airlines do not design and build
airports.

Speaking of airlines, you can buy their stock very inexpensively now.
If you had any money you could buy some and become an activist
investor.


Yeah, I'm sure. So, where's the list of airlines that will survive and
thrive and the list of airlines that will take a Trump?



Harry, all you have to do is buy the stock on credit and when the bill
comes you can ignore it. You of all people know that actually paying for
things is something only conservatives do.

United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
 

On 5/8/20 10:08 AM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
On 5/6/2020 9:19 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 11:06 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 22:04:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 9:57 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who
are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its
shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to
remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier,
service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to
decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling
employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with
the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained
by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer —
said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than
what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be
robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned
restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was
$900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.


And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation?Â* Figure in
inflation.

BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I
went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35
passengers.


I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few
flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a
flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That
is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks.

It was really the non-stop to SFO at the time other than going to BWI
and that was no picnic either. They didn't fly any long haul planes
out of DCA. If you were going to California, you were changing planes
somewhere in the midwest, probably ORD or MSP. On American it was
Chicago.


Ahh, BWI. For some reason, despite the amount of traffic it handles,
it is serious understaffed at the gates and has few decent restaurants
to occupy yourself while waiting for a late plane. Parking is also a
pain in the ass.

Generally speaking, we have lots of really crappy airports.

More reasons to move out of that ******** you live in. But then there is
another problem. Who in their right minds would welcome you as a neighbor.


The comment about "really crappy airports" referred to most of the
airports in the USA, ****-for-brains. If you want to see what a major
airport should be like, try this one:

https://www.changiairport.com/




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United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
 

On Fri, 8 May 2020 11:41:34 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/8/20 10:08 AM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
On 5/6/2020 9:19 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 11:06 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 22:04:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 9:57 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who
are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its
shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to
remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier,
service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to
decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling
employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with
the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained
by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer —
said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than
what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be
robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned
restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was
$900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.


And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation?* Figure in
inflation.

BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I
went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35
passengers.


I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few
flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a
flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That
is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks.

It was really the non-stop to SFO at the time other than going to BWI
and that was no picnic either. They didn't fly any long haul planes
out of DCA. If you were going to California, you were changing planes
somewhere in the midwest, probably ORD or MSP. On American it was
Chicago.


Ahh, BWI. For some reason, despite the amount of traffic it handles,
it is serious understaffed at the gates and has few decent restaurants
to occupy yourself while waiting for a late plane. Parking is also a
pain in the ass.

Generally speaking, we have lots of really crappy airports.

More reasons to move out of that ******** you live in. But then there is
another problem. Who in their right minds would welcome you as a neighbor.


The comment about "really crappy airports" referred to most of the
airports in the USA, ****-for-brains. If you want to see what a major
airport should be like, try this one:

https://www.changiairport.com/



===

You should move there. Before you go however, you should be aware
that the Singapore government and legal system has no tolerance
whatsoever for dishonest or aberrant behavior. Public flogging is
still employed to keep miscreants in line so you might want to think
twice about that.

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United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
 

On Friday, May 8, 2020 at 12:52:01 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Fri, 8 May 2020 11:41:34 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/8/20 10:08 AM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
On 5/6/2020 9:19 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 11:06 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 22:04:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 9:57 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who
are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its
shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to
remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier,
service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to
decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling
employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with
the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained
by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer —
said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than
what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be
robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned
restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was
$900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.


And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation?Â* Figure in
inflation.

BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I
went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35
passengers.


I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few
flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a
flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That
is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks.

It was really the non-stop to SFO at the time other than going to BWI
and that was no picnic either. They didn't fly any long haul planes
out of DCA. If you were going to California, you were changing planes
somewhere in the midwest, probably ORD or MSP. On American it was
Chicago.


Ahh, BWI. For some reason, despite the amount of traffic it handles,
it is serious understaffed at the gates and has few decent restaurants
to occupy yourself while waiting for a late plane. Parking is also a
pain in the ass.

Generally speaking, we have lots of really crappy airports.

More reasons to move out of that ******** you live in. But then there is
another problem. Who in their right minds would welcome you as a neighbor.


The comment about "really crappy airports" referred to most of the
airports in the USA, ****-for-brains. If you want to see what a major
airport should be like, try this one:

https://www.changiairport.com/



===

You should move there. Before you go however, you should be aware
that the Singapore government and legal system has no tolerance
whatsoever for dishonest or aberrant behavior. Public flogging is
still employed to keep miscreants in line so you might want to think
twice about that.

The vast majority of Americans want to get through an airport as quickly as possible. It figures fat harry would want an airport to be a dining and shopping destination. That way he can suff his fat face with food, then waddle around looking at clothes he couldn't fit into or afford.

United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
 

On 5/8/2020 11:41 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/8/20 10:08 AM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
On 5/6/2020 9:19 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 11:06 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 22:04:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 9:57 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who
are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its
shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the
miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to
remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier,
service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being
obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted
to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling
employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples
with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained
by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer —
said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of
300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than
what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to
be robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned
restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it
was $900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.


And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation?Â* Figure in
inflation.

BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I
went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35
passengers.


I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few
flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a
flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles.
That
is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks.

It was really the non-stop to SFO at the time other than going to BWI
and that was no picnic either. They didn't fly any long haul planes
out of DCA. If you were going to California, you were changing planes
somewhere in the midwest, probably ORD or MSP. On American it was
Chicago.


Ahh, BWI. For some reason, despite the amount of traffic it handles,
it is serious understaffed at the gates and has few decent
restaurants to occupy yourself while waiting for a late plane.
Parking is also a pain in the ass.

Generally speaking, we have lots of really crappy airports.

More reasons to move out of that ******** you live in. But then there
is another problem. Who in their right minds would welcome you as a
neighbor.


The comment about "really crappy airports" referred to most of the
airports in the USA, ****-for-brains. If you want to see what a major
airport should be like, try this one:

https://www.changiairport.com/




Why didn't you say so? Cat got your tongue?

--
Pity Fat Harry. His ability to produce rational thought on his own, no
longer exists, if it ever did at all.

United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
 

On 5/8/2020 1:10 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Friday, May 8, 2020 at 12:52:01 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Fri, 8 May 2020 11:41:34 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/8/20 10:08 AM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
On 5/6/2020 9:19 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 11:06 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 22:04:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 9:57 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who
are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its
shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to
remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier,
service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to
decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling
employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with
the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained
by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer —
said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than
what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be
robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned
restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was
$900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.


And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation?Â* Figure in
inflation.

BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I
went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35
passengers.


I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few
flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a
flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That
is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks.

It was really the non-stop to SFO at the time other than going to BWI
and that was no picnic either. They didn't fly any long haul planes
out of DCA. If you were going to California, you were changing planes
somewhere in the midwest, probably ORD or MSP. On American it was
Chicago.


Ahh, BWI. For some reason, despite the amount of traffic it handles,
it is serious understaffed at the gates and has few decent restaurants
to occupy yourself while waiting for a late plane. Parking is also a
pain in the ass.

Generally speaking, we have lots of really crappy airports.

More reasons to move out of that ******** you live in. But then there is
another problem. Who in their right minds would welcome you as a neighbor.


The comment about "really crappy airports" referred to most of the
airports in the USA, ****-for-brains. If you want to see what a major
airport should be like, try this one:

https://www.changiairport.com/



===

You should move there. Before you go however, you should be aware
that the Singapore government and legal system has no tolerance
whatsoever for dishonest or aberrant behavior. Public flogging is
still employed to keep miscreants in line so you might want to think
twice about that.

The vast majority of Americans want to get through an airport as quickly as possible. It figures fat harry would want an airport to be a dining and shopping destination. That way he can suff his fat face with food, then waddle around looking at clothes he couldn't fit into or afford.

Fat Harry would love Orlando airport.

--
Pity Fat Harry. His ability to produce rational thought on his own, no
longer exists, if it ever did at all.