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Vaccine ?
On Tue, 19 May 2020 15:46:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 5/19/2020 2:17 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 May 2020 05:16:20 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/18/2020 8:37 PM, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 23:02:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 17:51:44 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 15:54:57 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 15:07:47 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 12:54:23 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/18/20 10:41 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: A Cambridge, MA company "Moderna" has released the results of their Phase 1 tests of a covid-19 vaccine and has been given the go-ahead to proceed to phase II testing. If the results of Phase II are successful, an emergency go-ahead to start full scale immunizations may be forthcoming as early as this fall. The vaccine was tested in three dosages.Â* Even the lowest dosage resulted in antibodies to fight the virus at a level similar to those people who contacted covid-19 and survived. Details he https://www.statnews.com/2020/05/18/early-data-show-moderna-covid-19-vaccine-generates-immune-response/ It'll be nice when and if there are effective vaccines. I still think we are a long way away from that, assuming the usual sort of testing once some real possibilities are found. They are thinking the actual trials will be in the general population. It is all part of that "Do Something Now" mantra you have been chanting. === Much as I'd like to see those vaccine trials be successful, I'm not sure I'd want any friends or family members in the first round of testing. I wonder if you get a T shirt that says "I'm OK" so nobody hassles me about that stupid mask. If so I would give it a try. === Have you tried one of those fishing hoods that covers your nose and mouth? I have't but I'm thinking about it. They've got to be more comfortable than an N95 mask. https://www.amazon.com/Retail-Sign-Systems-Hunting%EF%BC%88Solid-Camouflage%EF%BC%89/dp/B085WRVQNX/ref=sr_1_4?crid=Z5PP8RYMK4X9&dchild=1&keywords=fis hing+face+mask I wore one today. Mostly to keep the sun off my face. Just finishing flourouracil skin treatment. Mine does not fit sung over the mouth and nose. May just be old. This really does show the insanity of the whole thing. I doubt any of these things would even filter out sawdust and we are expecting it to stop a virus that is 0.15 microns. If you are worried about sunburn on your nose it might be a thing but otherwise, it is only handy for criminals. Obviously, you still don't understand the purpose of wearing a mask. It is *not* to filter a 0.15 micron virus. A standard HEPA filter won't even do that. The purpose of wearing a mask is to reduce the "spread" of droplets from a cough or sneeze to reduce the chances of others becoming infected. The flaw is the "droplets" are very small too or they would not hang in the air. There is no reason to believe a bandanna would stop them. In fact it could actually collect them while you are breathing and be the chamber of the gun when you sneeze. I have an experiment I am thinking of doing. Take a couple layers of T shirt. Mist some red food coloring on one side enough to simulate breathing through it during an hour of shopping. Then pop a balloon held against that side, simulating a sneeze and see how far the red spray goes through the other side. Anyone have a prediction? I'll be content with believing the two university studies I sent you links to that used complex computer modeling to demonstrates that a mask reduces how far those droplets go and spread. The question is not how far, it is how many. If you are coughing on the apples or the counter top, you have spread the infection. It is really the very tiny ones that can hang in the air and I doubt your bandanna is stopping many of them. You probably know more about aerosols than I do. How big is a droplet that can ride on air? (I suppose I could google it). My guess is we are talking about microns tho. |
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Vaccine ?
On 5/19/2020 4:36 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 May 2020 15:46:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/19/2020 2:17 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 May 2020 05:16:20 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/18/2020 8:37 PM, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 23:02:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 17:51:44 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 15:54:57 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 15:07:47 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 12:54:23 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/18/20 10:41 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: A Cambridge, MA company "Moderna" has released the results of their Phase 1 tests of a covid-19 vaccine and has been given the go-ahead to proceed to phase II testing. If the results of Phase II are successful, an emergency go-ahead to start full scale immunizations may be forthcoming as early as this fall. The vaccine was tested in three dosages.Â* Even the lowest dosage resulted in antibodies to fight the virus at a level similar to those people who contacted covid-19 and survived. Details he https://www.statnews.com/2020/05/18/early-data-show-moderna-covid-19-vaccine-generates-immune-response/ It'll be nice when and if there are effective vaccines. I still think we are a long way away from that, assuming the usual sort of testing once some real possibilities are found. They are thinking the actual trials will be in the general population. It is all part of that "Do Something Now" mantra you have been chanting. === Much as I'd like to see those vaccine trials be successful, I'm not sure I'd want any friends or family members in the first round of testing. I wonder if you get a T shirt that says "I'm OK" so nobody hassles me about that stupid mask. If so I would give it a try. === Have you tried one of those fishing hoods that covers your nose and mouth? I have't but I'm thinking about it. They've got to be more comfortable than an N95 mask. https://www.amazon.com/Retail-Sign-Systems-Hunting%EF%BC%88Solid-Camouflage%EF%BC%89/dp/B085WRVQNX/ref=sr_1_4?crid=Z5PP8RYMK4X9&dchild=1&keywords=fis hing+face+mask I wore one today. Mostly to keep the sun off my face. Just finishing flourouracil skin treatment. Mine does not fit sung over the mouth and nose. May just be old. This really does show the insanity of the whole thing. I doubt any of these things would even filter out sawdust and we are expecting it to stop a virus that is 0.15 microns. If you are worried about sunburn on your nose it might be a thing but otherwise, it is only handy for criminals. Obviously, you still don't understand the purpose of wearing a mask. It is *not* to filter a 0.15 micron virus. A standard HEPA filter won't even do that. The purpose of wearing a mask is to reduce the "spread" of droplets from a cough or sneeze to reduce the chances of others becoming infected. The flaw is the "droplets" are very small too or they would not hang in the air. There is no reason to believe a bandanna would stop them. In fact it could actually collect them while you are breathing and be the chamber of the gun when you sneeze. I have an experiment I am thinking of doing. Take a couple layers of T shirt. Mist some red food coloring on one side enough to simulate breathing through it during an hour of shopping. Then pop a balloon held against that side, simulating a sneeze and see how far the red spray goes through the other side. Anyone have a prediction? I'll be content with believing the two university studies I sent you links to that used complex computer modeling to demonstrates that a mask reduces how far those droplets go and spread. The question is not how far, it is how many. If you are coughing on the apples or the counter top, you have spread the infection. It is really the very tiny ones that can hang in the air and I doubt your bandanna is stopping many of them. You probably know more about aerosols than I do. How big is a droplet that can ride on air? (I suppose I could google it). My guess is we are talking about microns tho. Some are lighter than air and can rise which further complicates the spread. I guess we have kicked the crap out of this horse. You think a mask is worthless. Most of the rest of the world including docs and infectious disease experts think otherwise. So, don't wear a mask. Don't complain about your $300 fine though if caught in MA not wearing one in close proximity to other people. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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#24
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Vaccine ?
On Tue, 19 May 2020 14:17:39 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 19 May 2020 05:16:20 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/18/2020 8:37 PM, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 23:02:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 17:51:44 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 15:54:57 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 15:07:47 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 12:54:23 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/18/20 10:41 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: A Cambridge, MA company "Moderna" has released the results of their Phase 1 tests of a covid-19 vaccine and has been given the go-ahead to proceed to phase II testing. If the results of Phase II are successful, an emergency go-ahead to start full scale immunizations may be forthcoming as early as this fall. The vaccine was tested in three dosages.* Even the lowest dosage resulted in antibodies to fight the virus at a level similar to those people who contacted covid-19 and survived. Details he https://www.statnews.com/2020/05/18/early-data-show-moderna-covid-19-vaccine-generates-immune-response/ It'll be nice when and if there are effective vaccines. I still think we are a long way away from that, assuming the usual sort of testing once some real possibilities are found. They are thinking the actual trials will be in the general population. It is all part of that "Do Something Now" mantra you have been chanting. === Much as I'd like to see those vaccine trials be successful, I'm not sure I'd want any friends or family members in the first round of testing. I wonder if you get a T shirt that says "I'm OK" so nobody hassles me about that stupid mask. If so I would give it a try. === Have you tried one of those fishing hoods that covers your nose and mouth? I have't but I'm thinking about it. They've got to be more comfortable than an N95 mask. https://www.amazon.com/Retail-Sign-Systems-Hunting%EF%BC%88Solid-Camouflage%EF%BC%89/dp/B085WRVQNX/ref=sr_1_4?crid=Z5PP8RYMK4X9&dchild=1&keywords=fis hing+face+mask I wore one today. Mostly to keep the sun off my face. Just finishing flourouracil skin treatment. Mine does not fit sung over the mouth and nose. May just be old. This really does show the insanity of the whole thing. I doubt any of these things would even filter out sawdust and we are expecting it to stop a virus that is 0.15 microns. If you are worried about sunburn on your nose it might be a thing but otherwise, it is only handy for criminals. Obviously, you still don't understand the purpose of wearing a mask. It is *not* to filter a 0.15 micron virus. A standard HEPA filter won't even do that. The purpose of wearing a mask is to reduce the "spread" of droplets from a cough or sneeze to reduce the chances of others becoming infected. The flaw is the "droplets" are very small too or they would not hang in the air. There is no reason to believe a bandanna would stop them. In fact it could actually collect them while you are breathing and be the chamber of the gun when you sneeze. I have an experiment I am thinking of doing. Take a couple layers of T shirt. Mist some red food coloring on one side enough to simulate breathing through it during an hour of shopping. Then pop a balloon held against that side, simulating a sneeze and see how far the red spray goes through the other side. Anyone have a prediction? Go back to your mouthfull of food coloring. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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#25
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Vaccine ?
On Tue, 19 May 2020 17:54:07 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 5/19/2020 4:36 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 May 2020 15:46:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/19/2020 2:17 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 May 2020 05:16:20 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/18/2020 8:37 PM, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 23:02:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 17:51:44 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 15:54:57 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 15:07:47 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 12:54:23 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/18/20 10:41 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: A Cambridge, MA company "Moderna" has released the results of their Phase 1 tests of a covid-19 vaccine and has been given the go-ahead to proceed to phase II testing. If the results of Phase II are successful, an emergency go-ahead to start full scale immunizations may be forthcoming as early as this fall. The vaccine was tested in three dosages.Â* Even the lowest dosage resulted in antibodies to fight the virus at a level similar to those people who contacted covid-19 and survived. Details he https://www.statnews.com/2020/05/18/early-data-show-moderna-covid-19-vaccine-generates-immune-response/ It'll be nice when and if there are effective vaccines. I still think we are a long way away from that, assuming the usual sort of testing once some real possibilities are found. They are thinking the actual trials will be in the general population. It is all part of that "Do Something Now" mantra you have been chanting. === Much as I'd like to see those vaccine trials be successful, I'm not sure I'd want any friends or family members in the first round of testing. I wonder if you get a T shirt that says "I'm OK" so nobody hassles me about that stupid mask. If so I would give it a try. === Have you tried one of those fishing hoods that covers your nose and mouth? I have't but I'm thinking about it. They've got to be more comfortable than an N95 mask. https://www.amazon.com/Retail-Sign-Systems-Hunting%EF%BC%88Solid-Camouflage%EF%BC%89/dp/B085WRVQNX/ref=sr_1_4?crid=Z5PP8RYMK4X9&dchild=1&keywords=fis hing+face+mask I wore one today. Mostly to keep the sun off my face. Just finishing flourouracil skin treatment. Mine does not fit sung over the mouth and nose. May just be old. This really does show the insanity of the whole thing. I doubt any of these things would even filter out sawdust and we are expecting it to stop a virus that is 0.15 microns. If you are worried about sunburn on your nose it might be a thing but otherwise, it is only handy for criminals. Obviously, you still don't understand the purpose of wearing a mask. It is *not* to filter a 0.15 micron virus. A standard HEPA filter won't even do that. The purpose of wearing a mask is to reduce the "spread" of droplets from a cough or sneeze to reduce the chances of others becoming infected. The flaw is the "droplets" are very small too or they would not hang in the air. There is no reason to believe a bandanna would stop them. In fact it could actually collect them while you are breathing and be the chamber of the gun when you sneeze. I have an experiment I am thinking of doing. Take a couple layers of T shirt. Mist some red food coloring on one side enough to simulate breathing through it during an hour of shopping. Then pop a balloon held against that side, simulating a sneeze and see how far the red spray goes through the other side. Anyone have a prediction? I'll be content with believing the two university studies I sent you links to that used complex computer modeling to demonstrates that a mask reduces how far those droplets go and spread. The question is not how far, it is how many. If you are coughing on the apples or the counter top, you have spread the infection. It is really the very tiny ones that can hang in the air and I doubt your bandanna is stopping many of them. You probably know more about aerosols than I do. How big is a droplet that can ride on air? (I suppose I could google it). My guess is we are talking about microns tho. Some are lighter than air and can rise which further complicates the spread. I guess we have kicked the crap out of this horse. You think a mask is worthless. Most of the rest of the world including docs and infectious disease experts think otherwise. So, don't wear a mask. Don't complain about your $300 fine though if caught in MA not wearing one in close proximity to other people. I don't plan on being in Massachusetts but I still think the charge would be tossed if I got a lawyer. |
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#26
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Vaccine ?
On Tue, 19 May 2020 18:14:02 -0400, John wrote:
On Tue, 19 May 2020 14:17:39 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 19 May 2020 05:16:20 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/18/2020 8:37 PM, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 23:02:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 17:51:44 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 15:54:57 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 15:07:47 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 12:54:23 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/18/20 10:41 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: A Cambridge, MA company "Moderna" has released the results of their Phase 1 tests of a covid-19 vaccine and has been given the go-ahead to proceed to phase II testing. If the results of Phase II are successful, an emergency go-ahead to start full scale immunizations may be forthcoming as early as this fall. The vaccine was tested in three dosages.Â* Even the lowest dosage resulted in antibodies to fight the virus at a level similar to those people who contacted covid-19 and survived. Details he https://www.statnews.com/2020/05/18/early-data-show-moderna-covid-19-vaccine-generates-immune-response/ It'll be nice when and if there are effective vaccines. I still think we are a long way away from that, assuming the usual sort of testing once some real possibilities are found. They are thinking the actual trials will be in the general population. It is all part of that "Do Something Now" mantra you have been chanting. === Much as I'd like to see those vaccine trials be successful, I'm not sure I'd want any friends or family members in the first round of testing. I wonder if you get a T shirt that says "I'm OK" so nobody hassles me about that stupid mask. If so I would give it a try. === Have you tried one of those fishing hoods that covers your nose and mouth? I have't but I'm thinking about it. They've got to be more comfortable than an N95 mask. https://www.amazon.com/Retail-Sign-Systems-Hunting%EF%BC%88Solid-Camouflage%EF%BC%89/dp/B085WRVQNX/ref=sr_1_4?crid=Z5PP8RYMK4X9&dchild=1&keywords=fis hing+face+mask I wore one today. Mostly to keep the sun off my face. Just finishing flourouracil skin treatment. Mine does not fit sung over the mouth and nose. May just be old. This really does show the insanity of the whole thing. I doubt any of these things would even filter out sawdust and we are expecting it to stop a virus that is 0.15 microns. If you are worried about sunburn on your nose it might be a thing but otherwise, it is only handy for criminals. Obviously, you still don't understand the purpose of wearing a mask. It is *not* to filter a 0.15 micron virus. A standard HEPA filter won't even do that. The purpose of wearing a mask is to reduce the "spread" of droplets from a cough or sneeze to reduce the chances of others becoming infected. The flaw is the "droplets" are very small too or they would not hang in the air. There is no reason to believe a bandanna would stop them. In fact it could actually collect them while you are breathing and be the chamber of the gun when you sneeze. I have an experiment I am thinking of doing. Take a couple layers of T shirt. Mist some red food coloring on one side enough to simulate breathing through it during an hour of shopping. Then pop a balloon held against that side, simulating a sneeze and see how far the red spray goes through the other side. Anyone have a prediction? Go back to your mouthfull of food coloring. I was trying to give a better real world test. |
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#27
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Vaccine ?
On Tue, 19 May 2020 21:31:02 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 19 May 2020 18:14:02 -0400, John wrote: On Tue, 19 May 2020 14:17:39 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 19 May 2020 05:16:20 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/18/2020 8:37 PM, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 23:02:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 17:51:44 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 15:54:57 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 15:07:47 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 12:54:23 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/18/20 10:41 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: A Cambridge, MA company "Moderna" has released the results of their Phase 1 tests of a covid-19 vaccine and has been given the go-ahead to proceed to phase II testing. If the results of Phase II are successful, an emergency go-ahead to start full scale immunizations may be forthcoming as early as this fall. The vaccine was tested in three dosages.* Even the lowest dosage resulted in antibodies to fight the virus at a level similar to those people who contacted covid-19 and survived. Details he https://www.statnews.com/2020/05/18/early-data-show-moderna-covid-19-vaccine-generates-immune-response/ It'll be nice when and if there are effective vaccines. I still think we are a long way away from that, assuming the usual sort of testing once some real possibilities are found. They are thinking the actual trials will be in the general population. It is all part of that "Do Something Now" mantra you have been chanting. === Much as I'd like to see those vaccine trials be successful, I'm not sure I'd want any friends or family members in the first round of testing. I wonder if you get a T shirt that says "I'm OK" so nobody hassles me about that stupid mask. If so I would give it a try. === Have you tried one of those fishing hoods that covers your nose and mouth? I have't but I'm thinking about it. They've got to be more comfortable than an N95 mask. https://www.amazon.com/Retail-Sign-Systems-Hunting%EF%BC%88Solid-Camouflage%EF%BC%89/dp/B085WRVQNX/ref=sr_1_4?crid=Z5PP8RYMK4X9&dchild=1&keywords=fis hing+face+mask I wore one today. Mostly to keep the sun off my face. Just finishing flourouracil skin treatment. Mine does not fit sung over the mouth and nose. May just be old. This really does show the insanity of the whole thing. I doubt any of these things would even filter out sawdust and we are expecting it to stop a virus that is 0.15 microns. If you are worried about sunburn on your nose it might be a thing but otherwise, it is only handy for criminals. Obviously, you still don't understand the purpose of wearing a mask. It is *not* to filter a 0.15 micron virus. A standard HEPA filter won't even do that. The purpose of wearing a mask is to reduce the "spread" of droplets from a cough or sneeze to reduce the chances of others becoming infected. The flaw is the "droplets" are very small too or they would not hang in the air. There is no reason to believe a bandanna would stop them. In fact it could actually collect them while you are breathing and be the chamber of the gun when you sneeze. I have an experiment I am thinking of doing. Take a couple layers of T shirt. Mist some red food coloring on one side enough to simulate breathing through it during an hour of shopping. Then pop a balloon held against that side, simulating a sneeze and see how far the red spray goes through the other side. Anyone have a prediction? Go back to your mouthfull of food coloring. I was trying to give a better real world test. Food coloring in the mouth would be 'real world' enough. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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#28
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Vaccine ?
On Wed, 20 May 2020 07:48:18 -0400, John wrote:
On Tue, 19 May 2020 21:31:02 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 19 May 2020 18:14:02 -0400, John wrote: On Tue, 19 May 2020 14:17:39 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 19 May 2020 05:16:20 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/18/2020 8:37 PM, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 23:02:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 17:51:44 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 15:54:57 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 15:07:47 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 12:54:23 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/18/20 10:41 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: A Cambridge, MA company "Moderna" has released the results of their Phase 1 tests of a covid-19 vaccine and has been given the go-ahead to proceed to phase II testing. If the results of Phase II are successful, an emergency go-ahead to start full scale immunizations may be forthcoming as early as this fall. The vaccine was tested in three dosages.Â* Even the lowest dosage resulted in antibodies to fight the virus at a level similar to those people who contacted covid-19 and survived. Details he https://www.statnews.com/2020/05/18/early-data-show-moderna-covid-19-vaccine-generates-immune-response/ It'll be nice when and if there are effective vaccines. I still think we are a long way away from that, assuming the usual sort of testing once some real possibilities are found. They are thinking the actual trials will be in the general population. It is all part of that "Do Something Now" mantra you have been chanting. === Much as I'd like to see those vaccine trials be successful, I'm not sure I'd want any friends or family members in the first round of testing. I wonder if you get a T shirt that says "I'm OK" so nobody hassles me about that stupid mask. If so I would give it a try. === Have you tried one of those fishing hoods that covers your nose and mouth? I have't but I'm thinking about it. They've got to be more comfortable than an N95 mask. https://www.amazon.com/Retail-Sign-Systems-Hunting%EF%BC%88Solid-Camouflage%EF%BC%89/dp/B085WRVQNX/ref=sr_1_4?crid=Z5PP8RYMK4X9&dchild=1&keywords=fis hing+face+mask I wore one today. Mostly to keep the sun off my face. Just finishing flourouracil skin treatment. Mine does not fit sung over the mouth and nose. May just be old. This really does show the insanity of the whole thing. I doubt any of these things would even filter out sawdust and we are expecting it to stop a virus that is 0.15 microns. If you are worried about sunburn on your nose it might be a thing but otherwise, it is only handy for criminals. Obviously, you still don't understand the purpose of wearing a mask. It is *not* to filter a 0.15 micron virus. A standard HEPA filter won't even do that. The purpose of wearing a mask is to reduce the "spread" of droplets from a cough or sneeze to reduce the chances of others becoming infected. The flaw is the "droplets" are very small too or they would not hang in the air. There is no reason to believe a bandanna would stop them. In fact it could actually collect them while you are breathing and be the chamber of the gun when you sneeze. I have an experiment I am thinking of doing. Take a couple layers of T shirt. Mist some red food coloring on one side enough to simulate breathing through it during an hour of shopping. Then pop a balloon held against that side, simulating a sneeze and see how far the red spray goes through the other side. Anyone have a prediction? Go back to your mouthfull of food coloring. I was trying to give a better real world test. Food coloring in the mouth would be 'real world' enough. Maybe it is just the Barbarosa aspect of it that bothers me. I am scary enough these days without "blood" dripping down my chin. |
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#29
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Vaccine ?
On Wed, 20 May 2020 16:55:45 -0400, wrote:
On Wed, 20 May 2020 07:48:18 -0400, John wrote: On Tue, 19 May 2020 21:31:02 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 19 May 2020 18:14:02 -0400, John wrote: On Tue, 19 May 2020 14:17:39 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 19 May 2020 05:16:20 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/18/2020 8:37 PM, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 23:02:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 17:51:44 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 15:54:57 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 15:07:47 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2020 12:54:23 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/18/20 10:41 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: A Cambridge, MA company "Moderna" has released the results of their Phase 1 tests of a covid-19 vaccine and has been given the go-ahead to proceed to phase II testing. If the results of Phase II are successful, an emergency go-ahead to start full scale immunizations may be forthcoming as early as this fall. The vaccine was tested in three dosages.* Even the lowest dosage resulted in antibodies to fight the virus at a level similar to those people who contacted covid-19 and survived. Details he https://www.statnews.com/2020/05/18/early-data-show-moderna-covid-19-vaccine-generates-immune-response/ It'll be nice when and if there are effective vaccines. I still think we are a long way away from that, assuming the usual sort of testing once some real possibilities are found. They are thinking the actual trials will be in the general population. It is all part of that "Do Something Now" mantra you have been chanting. === Much as I'd like to see those vaccine trials be successful, I'm not sure I'd want any friends or family members in the first round of testing. I wonder if you get a T shirt that says "I'm OK" so nobody hassles me about that stupid mask. If so I would give it a try. === Have you tried one of those fishing hoods that covers your nose and mouth? I have't but I'm thinking about it. They've got to be more comfortable than an N95 mask. https://www.amazon.com/Retail-Sign-Systems-Hunting%EF%BC%88Solid-Camouflage%EF%BC%89/dp/B085WRVQNX/ref=sr_1_4?crid=Z5PP8RYMK4X9&dchild=1&keywords=fis hing+face+mask I wore one today. Mostly to keep the sun off my face. Just finishing flourouracil skin treatment. Mine does not fit sung over the mouth and nose. May just be old. This really does show the insanity of the whole thing. I doubt any of these things would even filter out sawdust and we are expecting it to stop a virus that is 0.15 microns. If you are worried about sunburn on your nose it might be a thing but otherwise, it is only handy for criminals. Obviously, you still don't understand the purpose of wearing a mask. It is *not* to filter a 0.15 micron virus. A standard HEPA filter won't even do that. The purpose of wearing a mask is to reduce the "spread" of droplets from a cough or sneeze to reduce the chances of others becoming infected. The flaw is the "droplets" are very small too or they would not hang in the air. There is no reason to believe a bandanna would stop them. In fact it could actually collect them while you are breathing and be the chamber of the gun when you sneeze. I have an experiment I am thinking of doing. Take a couple layers of T shirt. Mist some red food coloring on one side enough to simulate breathing through it during an hour of shopping. Then pop a balloon held against that side, simulating a sneeze and see how far the red spray goes through the other side. Anyone have a prediction? Go back to your mouthfull of food coloring. I was trying to give a better real world test. Food coloring in the mouth would be 'real world' enough. Maybe it is just the Barbarosa aspect of it that bothers me. I am scary enough these days without "blood" dripping down my chin. So mix a drop of red with a few drops of yellow. That'd be liveable. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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