On Fri, 05 Jun 2020 15:08:10 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 05 Jun 2020 07:15:42 -0400, John wrote:

snippage
get used.

Bull****. All kinds of standards right he

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...coverings.html

I've shown you this before, but you choose to disregard it as it doesn't fit
your agenda.


"Your cloth face covering may protect them. Their cloth face covering
may protect you."

Note the word "may".
We may have snow in Ft Myers but I am not buying a snow shovel.

Anything that starts right out with "may work" does not sound like a
standard in any scientific sense.
Of you showed up at any OSHA regulated work space with a bandanna on
your face, they would kick you out. (to avoid a fine) OSHA does have
standards about what constitutes a mask.

Yes, there is some probability the mask will protect neither. However, there
*is* a standard about 'what a mask is'.

It is not a standard if anything from an N-95 to a neck gaiter passes
the test...
... unless we are just saying any gesture counts.

Can I just draw a mask on my face with face paint?

You actually got that from the CDC article above?

Yes, you can draw a mask on your face with face paint. Just cover it with a real
one when you go shopping.

That is the flaw in all of this, a "real" what?

For the third time:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...coverings.html

A neck gaiter? They only say they block a certain percentage of U/V
light and brag about how easy they are to breathe through.
A bandanna that doesn't seal to your face at all?
Either will get you into Costco, the only place I have been with a
mask policy.
OTOH
The Costco employees are wearing lexan face shields, not any kind of
mask at all. Any contamination that stops is going right down on the
surfaces and products in front of them. Keep that in mind when you are
opening that roaster chicken or handling that 30 pack of Charmin.
These are simply feel good gestures.


The purpose of the mask is not to keep things out but to keep them in. Maybe you
missed that. Luddite and I should have been more clear.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!

On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 06:46:49 -0400, John wrote:

On Fri, 05 Jun 2020 15:08:10 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 05 Jun 2020 07:15:42 -0400, John wrote:

snippage
get used.

Bull****. All kinds of standards right he

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...coverings.html

I've shown you this before, but you choose to disregard it as it doesn't fit
your agenda.


"Your cloth face covering may protect them. Their cloth face covering
may protect you."

Note the word "may".
We may have snow in Ft Myers but I am not buying a snow shovel.

Anything that starts right out with "may work" does not sound like a
standard in any scientific sense.
Of you showed up at any OSHA regulated work space with a bandanna on
your face, they would kick you out. (to avoid a fine) OSHA does have
standards about what constitutes a mask.

Yes, there is some probability the mask will protect neither. However, there
*is* a standard about 'what a mask is'.

It is not a standard if anything from an N-95 to a neck gaiter passes
the test...
... unless we are just saying any gesture counts.

Can I just draw a mask on my face with face paint?

You actually got that from the CDC article above?

Yes, you can draw a mask on your face with face paint. Just cover it with a real
one when you go shopping.

That is the flaw in all of this, a "real" what?

For the third time:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...coverings.html

A neck gaiter? They only say they block a certain percentage of U/V
light and brag about how easy they are to breathe through.
A bandanna that doesn't seal to your face at all?
Either will get you into Costco, the only place I have been with a
mask policy.
OTOH
The Costco employees are wearing lexan face shields, not any kind of
mask at all. Any contamination that stops is going right down on the
surfaces and products in front of them. Keep that in mind when you are
opening that roaster chicken or handling that 30 pack of Charmin.
These are simply feel good gestures.


The purpose of the mask is not to keep things out but to keep them in. Maybe you
missed that. Luddite and I should have been more clear.

So now handkerchiefs have a magic one way fiber?

I suppose they should throw out anyone at Costco with an N-95 that has
the valve in front. That is exactly the opposite of what you say these
are good for.

On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 07:55:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 06:46:49 -0400, John wrote:

On Fri, 05 Jun 2020 15:08:10 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 05 Jun 2020 07:15:42 -0400, John wrote:

snippage
get used.

Bull****. All kinds of standards right he

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...coverings.html

I've shown you this before, but you choose to disregard it as it doesn't fit
your agenda.


"Your cloth face covering may protect them. Their cloth face covering
may protect you."

Note the word "may".
We may have snow in Ft Myers but I am not buying a snow shovel.

Anything that starts right out with "may work" does not sound like a
standard in any scientific sense.
Of you showed up at any OSHA regulated work space with a bandanna on
your face, they would kick you out. (to avoid a fine) OSHA does have
standards about what constitutes a mask.

Yes, there is some probability the mask will protect neither. However, there
*is* a standard about 'what a mask is'.

It is not a standard if anything from an N-95 to a neck gaiter passes
the test...
... unless we are just saying any gesture counts.

Can I just draw a mask on my face with face paint?

You actually got that from the CDC article above?

Yes, you can draw a mask on your face with face paint. Just cover it with a real
one when you go shopping.

That is the flaw in all of this, a "real" what?

For the third time:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...coverings.html

A neck gaiter? They only say they block a certain percentage of U/V
light and brag about how easy they are to breathe through.
A bandanna that doesn't seal to your face at all?
Either will get you into Costco, the only place I have been with a
mask policy.
OTOH
The Costco employees are wearing lexan face shields, not any kind of
mask at all. Any contamination that stops is going right down on the
surfaces and products in front of them. Keep that in mind when you are
opening that roaster chicken or handling that 30 pack of Charmin.
These are simply feel good gestures.


The purpose of the mask is not to keep things out but to keep them in. Maybe you
missed that. Luddite and I should have been more clear.

So now handkerchiefs have a magic one way fiber?

I suppose they should throw out anyone at Costco with an N-95 that has
the valve in front. That is exactly the opposite of what you say these
are good for.

Read this. It may help. Note that N95 masks are not mentioned.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...coverings.html

A surgical N95 (also referred as a medical respirator) is recommended only for
use by healthcare personnel (HCP) who need protection from both airborne and
fluid hazards (e.g., splashes, sprays).

Of course, there are stupid folks everywhere.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!

On 6/6/2020 7:55 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 06:46:49 -0400, John wrote:

On Fri, 05 Jun 2020 15:08:10 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 05 Jun 2020 07:15:42 -0400, John wrote:

snippage
get used.

Bull****. All kinds of standards right he

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...coverings.html

I've shown you this before, but you choose to disregard it as it doesn't fit
your agenda.


"Your cloth face covering may protect them. Their cloth face covering
may protect you."

Note the word "may".
We may have snow in Ft Myers but I am not buying a snow shovel.

Anything that starts right out with "may work" does not sound like a
standard in any scientific sense.
Of you showed up at any OSHA regulated work space with a bandanna on
your face, they would kick you out. (to avoid a fine) OSHA does have
standards about what constitutes a mask.

Yes, there is some probability the mask will protect neither. However, there
*is* a standard about 'what a mask is'.

It is not a standard if anything from an N-95 to a neck gaiter passes
the test...
... unless we are just saying any gesture counts.

Can I just draw a mask on my face with face paint?

You actually got that from the CDC article above?

Yes, you can draw a mask on your face with face paint. Just cover it with a real
one when you go shopping.

That is the flaw in all of this, a "real" what?

For the third time:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...coverings.html

A neck gaiter? They only say they block a certain percentage of U/V
light and brag about how easy they are to breathe through.
A bandanna that doesn't seal to your face at all?
Either will get you into Costco, the only place I have been with a
mask policy.
OTOH
The Costco employees are wearing lexan face shields, not any kind of
mask at all. Any contamination that stops is going right down on the
surfaces and products in front of them. Keep that in mind when you are
opening that roaster chicken or handling that 30 pack of Charmin.
These are simply feel good gestures.


The purpose of the mask is not to keep things out but to keep them in. Maybe you
missed that. Luddite and I should have been more clear.

So now handkerchiefs have a magic one way fiber?

I suppose they should throw out anyone at Costco with an N-95 that has
the valve in front. That is exactly the opposite of what you say these
are good for.



LOL. Greg, you are doing this on purpose, aren't you?




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John wrote:
On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 07:55:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 06:46:49 -0400, John wrote:

On Fri, 05 Jun 2020 15:08:10 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 05 Jun 2020 07:15:42 -0400, John wrote:

snippage
get used.

Bull****. All kinds of standards right he

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...coverings.html

I've shown you this before, but you choose to disregard it as it doesn't fit
your agenda.


"Your cloth face covering may protect them. Their cloth face covering
may protect you."

Note the word "may".
We may have snow in Ft Myers but I am not buying a snow shovel.

Anything that starts right out with "may work" does not sound like a
standard in any scientific sense.
Of you showed up at any OSHA regulated work space with a bandanna on
your face, they would kick you out. (to avoid a fine) OSHA does have
standards about what constitutes a mask.

Yes, there is some probability the mask will protect neither. However, there
*is* a standard about 'what a mask is'.

It is not a standard if anything from an N-95 to a neck gaiter passes
the test...
... unless we are just saying any gesture counts.

Can I just draw a mask on my face with face paint?

You actually got that from the CDC article above?

Yes, you can draw a mask on your face with face paint. Just cover it with a real
one when you go shopping.

That is the flaw in all of this, a "real" what?

For the third time:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...coverings.html

A neck gaiter? They only say they block a certain percentage of U/V
light and brag about how easy they are to breathe through.
A bandanna that doesn't seal to your face at all?
Either will get you into Costco, the only place I have been with a
mask policy.
OTOH
The Costco employees are wearing lexan face shields, not any kind of
mask at all. Any contamination that stops is going right down on the
surfaces and products in front of them. Keep that in mind when you are
opening that roaster chicken or handling that 30 pack of Charmin.
These are simply feel good gestures.


The purpose of the mask is not to keep things out but to keep them in. Maybe you
missed that. Luddite and I should have been more clear.

So now handkerchiefs have a magic one way fiber?

I suppose they should throw out anyone at Costco with an N-95 that has
the valve in front. That is exactly the opposite of what you say these
are good for.

Read this. It may help. Note that N95 masks are not mentioned.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...coverings.html

A surgical N95 (also referred as a medical respirator) is recommended only for
use by healthcare personnel (HCP) who need protection from both airborne and
fluid hazards (e.g., splashes, sprays).

Of course, there are stupid folks everywhere.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


If N95 was recommended for everyone, the medical personnel would be
without.

On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 08:19:26 -0400, John wrote:

On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 07:55:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 06:46:49 -0400, John wrote:

On Fri, 05 Jun 2020 15:08:10 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 05 Jun 2020 07:15:42 -0400, John wrote:

snippage
get used.

Bull****. All kinds of standards right he

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...coverings.html

I've shown you this before, but you choose to disregard it as it doesn't fit
your agenda.


"Your cloth face covering may protect them. Their cloth face covering
may protect you."

Note the word "may".
We may have snow in Ft Myers but I am not buying a snow shovel.

Anything that starts right out with "may work" does not sound like a
standard in any scientific sense.
Of you showed up at any OSHA regulated work space with a bandanna on
your face, they would kick you out. (to avoid a fine) OSHA does have
standards about what constitutes a mask.

Yes, there is some probability the mask will protect neither. However, there
*is* a standard about 'what a mask is'.

It is not a standard if anything from an N-95 to a neck gaiter passes
the test...
... unless we are just saying any gesture counts.

Can I just draw a mask on my face with face paint?

You actually got that from the CDC article above?

Yes, you can draw a mask on your face with face paint. Just cover it with a real
one when you go shopping.

That is the flaw in all of this, a "real" what?

For the third time:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...coverings.html

A neck gaiter? They only say they block a certain percentage of U/V
light and brag about how easy they are to breathe through.
A bandanna that doesn't seal to your face at all?
Either will get you into Costco, the only place I have been with a
mask policy.
OTOH
The Costco employees are wearing lexan face shields, not any kind of
mask at all. Any contamination that stops is going right down on the
surfaces and products in front of them. Keep that in mind when you are
opening that roaster chicken or handling that 30 pack of Charmin.
These are simply feel good gestures.


The purpose of the mask is not to keep things out but to keep them in. Maybe you
missed that. Luddite and I should have been more clear.

So now handkerchiefs have a magic one way fiber?

I suppose they should throw out anyone at Costco with an N-95 that has
the valve in front. That is exactly the opposite of what you say these
are good for.

Read this. It may help. Note that N95 masks are not mentioned.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...coverings.html

A surgical N95 (also referred as a medical respirator) is recommended only for
use by healthcare personnel (HCP) who need protection from both airborne and
fluid hazards (e.g., splashes, sprays).

Of course, there are stupid folks everywhere.

They said that to avoid a run on medical supplies that were getting
hard to come by but they still wanted to throw a bone to those people
who wanted to think they were doing something. Now this issue has
gained a life of it's own. Just based on the fact that Costco is
giving away surgical masks at the door, I assume the supply chain has
caught up.
I am now wondering how long this nonsense is going to go on.
Is this a phase 3 or a phase 4 thing?

Are there going to be people who just wear a mask forever now?

On Saturday, June 6, 2020 at 1:14:20 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 08:19:26 -0400, John wrote:

On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 07:55:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 06:46:49 -0400, John wrote:

On Fri, 05 Jun 2020 15:08:10 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 05 Jun 2020 07:15:42 -0400, John wrote:

snippage
get used.

Bull****. All kinds of standards right he

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...coverings.html

I've shown you this before, but you choose to disregard it as it doesn't fit
your agenda.


"Your cloth face covering may protect them. Their cloth face covering
may protect you."

Note the word "may".
We may have snow in Ft Myers but I am not buying a snow shovel.

Anything that starts right out with "may work" does not sound like a
standard in any scientific sense.
Of you showed up at any OSHA regulated work space with a bandanna on
your face, they would kick you out. (to avoid a fine) OSHA does have
standards about what constitutes a mask.

Yes, there is some probability the mask will protect neither. However, there
*is* a standard about 'what a mask is'.

It is not a standard if anything from an N-95 to a neck gaiter passes
the test...
... unless we are just saying any gesture counts.

Can I just draw a mask on my face with face paint?

You actually got that from the CDC article above?

Yes, you can draw a mask on your face with face paint. Just cover it with a real
one when you go shopping.

That is the flaw in all of this, a "real" what?

For the third time:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...coverings.html

A neck gaiter? They only say they block a certain percentage of U/V
light and brag about how easy they are to breathe through.
A bandanna that doesn't seal to your face at all?
Either will get you into Costco, the only place I have been with a
mask policy.
OTOH
The Costco employees are wearing lexan face shields, not any kind of
mask at all. Any contamination that stops is going right down on the
surfaces and products in front of them. Keep that in mind when you are
opening that roaster chicken or handling that 30 pack of Charmin.
These are simply feel good gestures.


The purpose of the mask is not to keep things out but to keep them in. Maybe you
missed that. Luddite and I should have been more clear.

So now handkerchiefs have a magic one way fiber?

I suppose they should throw out anyone at Costco with an N-95 that has
the valve in front. That is exactly the opposite of what you say these
are good for.

Read this. It may help. Note that N95 masks are not mentioned.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...coverings.html

A surgical N95 (also referred as a medical respirator) is recommended only for
use by healthcare personnel (HCP) who need protection from both airborne and
fluid hazards (e.g., splashes, sprays).

Of course, there are stupid folks everywhere.

They said that to avoid a run on medical supplies that were getting
hard to come by but they still wanted to throw a bone to those people
who wanted to think they were doing something. Now this issue has
gained a life of it's own. Just based on the fact that Costco is
giving away surgical masks at the door, I assume the supply chain has
caught up.
I am now wondering how long this nonsense is going to go on.
Is this a phase 3 or a phase 4 thing?

Are there going to be people who just wear a mask forever now?

It's a conspiracy, Greg. I think they are doing it just to **** with you.

On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 08:39:14 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 6/6/2020 7:55 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 06:46:49 -0400, John wrote:

On Fri, 05 Jun 2020 15:08:10 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 05 Jun 2020 07:15:42 -0400, John wrote:

snippage
get used.

Bull****. All kinds of standards right he

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...coverings.html

I've shown you this before, but you choose to disregard it as it doesn't fit
your agenda.


"Your cloth face covering may protect them. Their cloth face covering
may protect you."

Note the word "may".
We may have snow in Ft Myers but I am not buying a snow shovel.

Anything that starts right out with "may work" does not sound like a
standard in any scientific sense.
Of you showed up at any OSHA regulated work space with a bandanna on
your face, they would kick you out. (to avoid a fine) OSHA does have
standards about what constitutes a mask.

Yes, there is some probability the mask will protect neither. However, there
*is* a standard about 'what a mask is'.

It is not a standard if anything from an N-95 to a neck gaiter passes
the test...
... unless we are just saying any gesture counts.

Can I just draw a mask on my face with face paint?

You actually got that from the CDC article above?

Yes, you can draw a mask on your face with face paint. Just cover it with a real
one when you go shopping.

That is the flaw in all of this, a "real" what?

For the third time:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...coverings.html

A neck gaiter? They only say they block a certain percentage of U/V
light and brag about how easy they are to breathe through.
A bandanna that doesn't seal to your face at all?
Either will get you into Costco, the only place I have been with a
mask policy.
OTOH
The Costco employees are wearing lexan face shields, not any kind of
mask at all. Any contamination that stops is going right down on the
surfaces and products in front of them. Keep that in mind when you are
opening that roaster chicken or handling that 30 pack of Charmin.
These are simply feel good gestures.


The purpose of the mask is not to keep things out but to keep them in. Maybe you
missed that. Luddite and I should have been more clear.

So now handkerchiefs have a magic one way fiber?

I suppose they should throw out anyone at Costco with an N-95 that has
the valve in front. That is exactly the opposite of what you say these
are good for.



LOL. Greg, you are doing this on purpose, aren't you?

I am just trying to follow the logic. It is particularly strange when
Costco, the only place here requiring a mask, has their people wearing
a Lexan face shield.
People really need to make up their mind. Is this flying debris or is
it an aerosol?

You really need to put any kind of PPE knowledge or general logic on
hold to wrap your head around this fad.

On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 13:13:44 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 08:19:26 -0400, John wrote:

On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 07:55:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 06:46:49 -0400, John wrote:

On Fri, 05 Jun 2020 15:08:10 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 05 Jun 2020 07:15:42 -0400, John wrote:

snippage
get used.

Bull****. All kinds of standards right he

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...coverings.html

I've shown you this before, but you choose to disregard it as it doesn't fit
your agenda.


"Your cloth face covering may protect them. Their cloth face covering
may protect you."

Note the word "may".
We may have snow in Ft Myers but I am not buying a snow shovel.

Anything that starts right out with "may work" does not sound like a
standard in any scientific sense.
Of you showed up at any OSHA regulated work space with a bandanna on
your face, they would kick you out. (to avoid a fine) OSHA does have
standards about what constitutes a mask.

Yes, there is some probability the mask will protect neither. However, there
*is* a standard about 'what a mask is'.

It is not a standard if anything from an N-95 to a neck gaiter passes
the test...
... unless we are just saying any gesture counts.

Can I just draw a mask on my face with face paint?

You actually got that from the CDC article above?

Yes, you can draw a mask on your face with face paint. Just cover it with a real
one when you go shopping.

That is the flaw in all of this, a "real" what?

For the third time:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...coverings.html

A neck gaiter? They only say they block a certain percentage of U/V
light and brag about how easy they are to breathe through.
A bandanna that doesn't seal to your face at all?
Either will get you into Costco, the only place I have been with a
mask policy.
OTOH
The Costco employees are wearing lexan face shields, not any kind of
mask at all. Any contamination that stops is going right down on the
surfaces and products in front of them. Keep that in mind when you are
opening that roaster chicken or handling that 30 pack of Charmin.
These are simply feel good gestures.


The purpose of the mask is not to keep things out but to keep them in. Maybe you
missed that. Luddite and I should have been more clear.

So now handkerchiefs have a magic one way fiber?

I suppose they should throw out anyone at Costco with an N-95 that has
the valve in front. That is exactly the opposite of what you say these
are good for.

Read this. It may help. Note that N95 masks are not mentioned.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...coverings.html

A surgical N95 (also referred as a medical respirator) is recommended only for
use by healthcare personnel (HCP) who need protection from both airborne and
fluid hazards (e.g., splashes, sprays).

Of course, there are stupid folks everywhere.

They said that to avoid a run on medical supplies that were getting
hard to come by but they still wanted to throw a bone to those people
who wanted to think they were doing something. Now this issue has
gained a life of it's own. Just based on the fact that Costco is
giving away surgical masks at the door, I assume the supply chain has
caught up.
I am now wondering how long this nonsense is going to go on.
Is this a phase 3 or a phase 4 thing?

Are there going to be people who just wear a mask forever now?

Who is 'they'?

Again, N95 respirators and surgical masks (face masks) are examples of personal
protective equipment that are used to protect the wearer from airborne particles
and from liquid contaminating the face. Centers for Disease Control and
Prevention (CDC) National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH)
and Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) also regulate N95
respirators.

https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/...sks-face-masks

Is that source good enough for you? Note, "...are used to protect the wearer
from airborne particles and from liquid contaminating the face."

That's not that hard to understand.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!

On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 13:17:58 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 08:39:14 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 6/6/2020 7:55 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 06:46:49 -0400, John wrote:

On Fri, 05 Jun 2020 15:08:10 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 05 Jun 2020 07:15:42 -0400, John wrote:

snippage
get used.

Bull****. All kinds of standards right he

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...coverings.html

I've shown you this before, but you choose to disregard it as it doesn't fit
your agenda.


"Your cloth face covering may protect them. Their cloth face covering
may protect you."

Note the word "may".
We may have snow in Ft Myers but I am not buying a snow shovel.

Anything that starts right out with "may work" does not sound like a
standard in any scientific sense.
Of you showed up at any OSHA regulated work space with a bandanna on
your face, they would kick you out. (to avoid a fine) OSHA does have
standards about what constitutes a mask.

Yes, there is some probability the mask will protect neither. However, there
*is* a standard about 'what a mask is'.

It is not a standard if anything from an N-95 to a neck gaiter passes
the test...
... unless we are just saying any gesture counts.

Can I just draw a mask on my face with face paint?

You actually got that from the CDC article above?

Yes, you can draw a mask on your face with face paint. Just cover it with a real
one when you go shopping.

That is the flaw in all of this, a "real" what?

For the third time:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...coverings.html

A neck gaiter? They only say they block a certain percentage of U/V
light and brag about how easy they are to breathe through.
A bandanna that doesn't seal to your face at all?
Either will get you into Costco, the only place I have been with a
mask policy.
OTOH
The Costco employees are wearing lexan face shields, not any kind of
mask at all. Any contamination that stops is going right down on the
surfaces and products in front of them. Keep that in mind when you are
opening that roaster chicken or handling that 30 pack of Charmin.
These are simply feel good gestures.


The purpose of the mask is not to keep things out but to keep them in. Maybe you
missed that. Luddite and I should have been more clear.

So now handkerchiefs have a magic one way fiber?

I suppose they should throw out anyone at Costco with an N-95 that has
the valve in front. That is exactly the opposite of what you say these
are good for.



LOL. Greg, you are doing this on purpose, aren't you?

I am just trying to follow the logic. It is particularly strange when
Costco, the only place here requiring a mask, has their people wearing
a Lexan face shield.
People really need to make up their mind. Is this flying debris or is
it an aerosol?

You really need to put any kind of PPE knowledge or general logic on
hold to wrap your head around this fad.

A face shield is PPE. My dentist has started wearing one. I've not seen anyone
in the two Costcos I use wear one.

The more you talk, the more I think you either live in a strange place or you're
bull****ting.
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