On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 20:24:55 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:

On 7/9/20 1:15 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:20:54 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:

On 7/8/20 10:17 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jul 2020 23:19:48 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 02:22:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jul 2020 06:51:27 -0400, John wrote:

Not to beat a dead horse, but this guy does a great explanation and video of why
masks work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Tp0...0CgY8aJiV1 5I

Nobody wants to talk about what happens to the infection trapped in
the mask. How many times does the average mask wearer touch that mask
on their day out and about and where does that infection on their
hands end up?
I see lots of masks. I see very few people who actually wear and
handle hem correctly ... but they are making the fashion statement so
I guess it is OK.


Maybe trying to protect other people.

===

And raising the general awareness level. These are not exactly normal
times and some people need to be reminded of that it seems.

So then if I just get a hat that says "get the **** away from me" it
is as effective as a mask. Thanks

Maybe you could stay away from everyone and anywhere they've been recently.
No mask,no hat required. No risk of being infected or infecting others.
What do you think?

I do stay away from people, at least 6 feet.

I can't imagine how that could work in most retail establishments.

Maybe it is just here but they have moved out all of that clutter that
used to be in the aisles in Ace and Publix (the 2 places where I go
the most). It is not hard to keep your distance. ABC (liquor chain),
the pool store and CVS are not that busy. Most of the time you have
the whole aisle to yourself. Everyone has tape on the floor at the
checkout to space people out.

On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 13:41:16 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

This year the dealer told me my model is a bit wider to accommodate a console with more comfortable seating. Grrrrr ... that would have been the perfect choice for me. I get tired on longer runs holding the tiller handle, especially when I
lean forward to get up on plane with the Mercury 6hp. GPS says I can get up to 14.5 mph.

Sounds about like my old 12' Jon boat. I had a 7.5 on it and an
extension on the tiller so it wasn't horrible to hold on to. I was
probably going about that fast too, maybe even a little more. That was
150% of the recommended HP for that boat and I had a hard time finding
a prop that had enough pitch to really wring it out.
I was like Wayne tho, exploring every little hole in the mangroves in
the Estero bay. It is a great way to get some local knowledge and if
you do get stuck, you can drag the boat back into deeper water pretty
easy.
I had an old office chair mounted as low in the boat as I could get it
and it was a pretty good ride.

On 7/9/20 6:40 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 09 Jul 2020 16:02:33 -0400, John wrote:

On Thu, 09 Jul 2020 15:14:37 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 09 Jul 2020 06:58:00 -0400, John wrote:

On Thu, 09 Jul 2020 00:16:34 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 02:22:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jul 2020 06:51:27 -0400, John wrote:

Not to beat a dead horse, but this guy does a great explanation and video of why
masks work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Tp0...0CgY8aJiV1 5I

Nobody wants to talk about what happens to the infection trapped in
the mask. How many times does the average mask wearer touch that mask
on their day out and about and where does that infection on their
hands end up?
I see lots of masks. I see very few people who actually wear and
handle hem correctly ... but they are making the fashion statement so
I guess it is OK.


Maybe trying to protect other people.

They are not protecting anyone of they are fondling an infected mask
and then handling the produce.

The mask does not provide orgasms. There is no reason to be fondling it. Put it
on when going into the store, and take it off when you come out. That's not that
hard.

A little common sense can go a long way!

Then what? Shove it in your pocket? (infecting your pocket and
everything in it)

If you're already sick, what difference does it make? As you've been told many
times, the mask is to protect others.

Then I assume you do not believe is surface transmission.
If you are screwing with your mask and then touching the peaches, the
peaches are contaminated (the door handle of the freezer, the counter
or anything else you touch).
I also wonder if you really believe, this mask that you say will not
stop incoming aerosols is so great at stopping out going aerosols.


It still does not address the reality I see. Those sanctimonious
people I see are touching their mask all the time and about half pull
it down to talk. Some wear it below their nose so they can breathe
without fogging up their glasses and the store employees are the
worst. God only know when the last time they changed or washed that
nasty rag.

Apparently you see only assholes who don't know what they should, or they don't
give a **** about others.

I am just not convinced it is more than a hollow gesture.
That is particularly true if you are not following proper PPE
discipline

Either you are the 1% or you are just in denial.

What 1%? That comment made little sense.

The 1% who actually follow that afore mentioned discipline.
Taking the mask off and shoving it in your pocket is not it.
The few times I do wear a mask, I really try to do it right. I put a
brand new one on, handling it by the straps, I don't touch it and when
I leave (Costco) I take it off by the straps and drop it in the trash.
I did ask the door dweeb where the biohazard disposal container was
but he didn't understand the concept.

Then I avoid touching anything until I get to my car and my hand
sanitizer. I don't even get in the car until I scrub my hands and
face..

I am going another way. My thought is the best way not to spread the
virus is not to get it in the first place.
What is wrong with that?

How do you know you don't already have it? Don't be touching someone else's
peaches. ;-)

On 7/9/20 6:48 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 09 Jul 2020 16:03:18 -0400, John wrote:

On Thu, 09 Jul 2020 15:15:19 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:20:54 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:

On 7/8/20 10:17 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jul 2020 23:19:48 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 02:22:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jul 2020 06:51:27 -0400, John wrote:

Not to beat a dead horse, but this guy does a great explanation and video of why
masks work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Tp0...0CgY8aJiV1 5I

Nobody wants to talk about what happens to the infection trapped in
the mask. How many times does the average mask wearer touch that mask
on their day out and about and where does that infection on their
hands end up?
I see lots of masks. I see very few people who actually wear and
handle hem correctly ... but they are making the fashion statement so
I guess it is OK.


Maybe trying to protect other people.

===

And raising the general awareness level. These are not exactly normal
times and some people need to be reminded of that it seems.

So then if I just get a hat that says "get the **** away from me" it
is as effective as a mask. Thanks

Maybe you could stay away from everyone and anywhere they've been recently.
No mask,no hat required. No risk of being infected or infecting others.
What do you think?

I do stay away from people, at least 6 feet.

Never pass anyone in the store aisle, eh?

Not if I don't have to and I hold my breath if I do. Since they
cleared out all of the aisle displays and made them one way, passing
is not that common anyway. When you do, there is plenty of room to
stay away from them. People in my little circle of stores do a pretty
good job of staying away from each other but mask use also cruises
around 50% so maybe we have to.

BTW both the CDC and WHO have said "casual contact" like walking by
someone in a store is way down on their suspicions of how this is
transmitted.
Sitting on a bar stool spitting in each other's beer or standing close
and hollering in their face to be heard over the band is the top of
the list and we are seeing that in our most recent spike in
millennials.

The herd mentality seems to be central in the spread of this pandemic. MANY
businesses like gyms, theaters, restaurants, bars and theme parks are at
risk of becoming extinct unless they have deep pockets. I also believe
there is a renewed interest in abandoning large cities. Especially since
they seem to be run largely by morons.

On 7/9/20 6:52 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 20:24:55 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:

On 7/9/20 1:15 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:20:54 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:

On 7/8/20 10:17 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jul 2020 23:19:48 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 02:22:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jul 2020 06:51:27 -0400, John wrote:

Not to beat a dead horse, but this guy does a great explanation and video of why
masks work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Tp0...0CgY8aJiV1 5I

Nobody wants to talk about what happens to the infection trapped in
the mask. How many times does the average mask wearer touch that mask
on their day out and about and where does that infection on their
hands end up?
I see lots of masks. I see very few people who actually wear and
handle hem correctly ... but they are making the fashion statement so
I guess it is OK.


Maybe trying to protect other people.

===

And raising the general awareness level. These are not exactly normal
times and some people need to be reminded of that it seems.

So then if I just get a hat that says "get the **** away from me" it
is as effective as a mask. Thanks

Maybe you could stay away from everyone and anywhere they've been recently.
No mask,no hat required. No risk of being infected or infecting others.
What do you think?

I do stay away from people, at least 6 feet.

I can't imagine how that could work in most retail establishments.

Maybe it is just here but they have moved out all of that clutter that
used to be in the aisles in Ace and Publix (the 2 places where I go
the most). It is not hard to keep your distance. ABC (liquor chain),
the pool store and CVS are not that busy. Most of the time you have
the whole aisle to yourself. Everyone has tape on the floor at the
checkout to space people out.

I still see people going the wrong way down one way asides. Coincidently
those are the same folks who refuse to wear masks. How do you deal with
them? I tell ya, it's hard "staying alive".

On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 13:17:08 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:

On 7/9/20 6:40 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 09 Jul 2020 16:02:33 -0400, John wrote:

On Thu, 09 Jul 2020 15:14:37 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 09 Jul 2020 06:58:00 -0400, John wrote:

On Thu, 09 Jul 2020 00:16:34 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 02:22:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jul 2020 06:51:27 -0400, John wrote:

Not to beat a dead horse, but this guy does a great explanation and video of why
masks work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Tp0...0CgY8aJiV1 5I

Nobody wants to talk about what happens to the infection trapped in
the mask. How many times does the average mask wearer touch that mask
on their day out and about and where does that infection on their
hands end up?
I see lots of masks. I see very few people who actually wear and
handle hem correctly ... but they are making the fashion statement so
I guess it is OK.


Maybe trying to protect other people.

They are not protecting anyone of they are fondling an infected mask
and then handling the produce.

The mask does not provide orgasms. There is no reason to be fondling it. Put it
on when going into the store, and take it off when you come out. That's not that
hard.

A little common sense can go a long way!

Then what? Shove it in your pocket? (infecting your pocket and
everything in it)

If you're already sick, what difference does it make? As you've been told many
times, the mask is to protect others.

Then I assume you do not believe is surface transmission.
If you are screwing with your mask and then touching the peaches, the
peaches are contaminated (the door handle of the freezer, the counter
or anything else you touch).
I also wonder if you really believe, this mask that you say will not
stop incoming aerosols is so great at stopping out going aerosols.


It still does not address the reality I see. Those sanctimonious
people I see are touching their mask all the time and about half pull
it down to talk. Some wear it below their nose so they can breathe
without fogging up their glasses and the store employees are the
worst. God only know when the last time they changed or washed that
nasty rag.

Apparently you see only assholes who don't know what they should, or they don't
give a **** about others.

I am just not convinced it is more than a hollow gesture.
That is particularly true if you are not following proper PPE
discipline

Either you are the 1% or you are just in denial.

What 1%? That comment made little sense.

The 1% who actually follow that afore mentioned discipline.
Taking the mask off and shoving it in your pocket is not it.
The few times I do wear a mask, I really try to do it right. I put a
brand new one on, handling it by the straps, I don't touch it and when
I leave (Costco) I take it off by the straps and drop it in the trash.
I did ask the door dweeb where the biohazard disposal container was
but he didn't understand the concept.

Then I avoid touching anything until I get to my car and my hand
sanitizer. I don't even get in the car until I scrub my hands and
face..

I am going another way. My thought is the best way not to spread the
virus is not to get it in the first place.
What is wrong with that?

How do you know you don't already have it? Don't be touching someone else's
peaches. ;-)

At my age, this is not supposed to be asymptomatic.

Everyone touches the peaches. That is why I scrub the hell out of them
and all loose produce. Even if it isn't local touch contamination, you
still have the good old E-Coli and Salmonella type infections.

On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 13:45:26 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:

On 7/9/20 6:52 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 20:24:55 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:

On 7/9/20 1:15 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:20:54 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:

On 7/8/20 10:17 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jul 2020 23:19:48 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 02:22:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jul 2020 06:51:27 -0400, John wrote:

Not to beat a dead horse, but this guy does a great explanation and video of why
masks work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Tp0...0CgY8aJiV1 5I

Nobody wants to talk about what happens to the infection trapped in
the mask. How many times does the average mask wearer touch that mask
on their day out and about and where does that infection on their
hands end up?
I see lots of masks. I see very few people who actually wear and
handle hem correctly ... but they are making the fashion statement so
I guess it is OK.


Maybe trying to protect other people.

===

And raising the general awareness level. These are not exactly normal
times and some people need to be reminded of that it seems.

So then if I just get a hat that says "get the **** away from me" it
is as effective as a mask. Thanks

Maybe you could stay away from everyone and anywhere they've been recently.
No mask,no hat required. No risk of being infected or infecting others.
What do you think?

I do stay away from people, at least 6 feet.

I can't imagine how that could work in most retail establishments.

Maybe it is just here but they have moved out all of that clutter that
used to be in the aisles in Ace and Publix (the 2 places where I go
the most). It is not hard to keep your distance. ABC (liquor chain),
the pool store and CVS are not that busy. Most of the time you have
the whole aisle to yourself. Everyone has tape on the floor at the
checkout to space people out.

I still see people going the wrong way down one way asides. Coincidently
those are the same folks who refuse to wear masks. How do you deal with
them? I tell ya, it's hard "staying alive".

There is still scant evidence that these incidental contacts spread
the virus. It seems to bloom when people are jammed together for
extended periods of time. This is a bad time to own a movie theater
or a sports stadium. As long as people are afraid to go, restaurants
are not even that bad. I was at Texas Road House and Carrabbas. Both
were wiping down surfaces constantly, the people are scattered around,
pretty far apart and it is the same food they are pushing out the door
if you carry out. I still was a bit uncomfortable and going wasn't my
idea.

On 7/9/20 9:02 AM, True North wrote:
Y'all are highly amusing.
Just as I predicted many times Y'all would turn and pig pile on one of your own once you didn't have Harry or me to spar with. Greg is just enough of an independent thinker to make him an easy target.

BTW...on the subject of Covid 19, What the 'ell is your Exaulted Ruler thinking?
I have nightmares of hordes of mangy disease riddled 'mericans crashing our borders in the hopes of finding a more enlightened culture.
Scary indeed! Anyway, keep on doing what Y'all do.

P E I will do anything to keep those diseased Sko****es out.

https://themanatee.net/p-e-i-detonat...d-19-carriers/

On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 20:11:12 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:

On 7/9/20 9:02 AM, True North wrote:
Y'all are highly amusing.
Just as I predicted many times Y'all would turn and pig pile on one of your own once you didn't have Harry or me to spar with. Greg is just enough of an independent thinker to make him an easy target.

BTW...on the subject of Covid 19, What the 'ell is your Exaulted Ruler thinking?
I have nightmares of hordes of mangy disease riddled 'mericans crashing our borders in the hopes of finding a more enlightened culture.
Scary indeed! Anyway, keep on doing what Y'all do.

P E I will do anything to keep those diseased Sko****es out.

https://themanatee.net/p-e-i-detonat...d-19-carriers/

===

Funny stuff. Sounds like some ex-pats from the Onion have been at
work.

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