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On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 15:00:25 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/hea...-be-looking-to === It seems logical to me that the term "herd immunity" is a bit of a misnomer. If 70% of the populace has anti-bodies, that leaves 30% who are still capable of getting infected if exposed. So what kind of immunity is that? Better to get vaccinated in my opinion assuming that the vaccine is safe and effective. I think the experts use herd immunity to imply that the risk of rapid spreading is statistically reduced. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 14:46:04 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 12:44:30 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 15:00:25 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/hea...-be-looking-to === It seems logical to me that the term "herd immunity" is a bit of a misnomer. If 70% of the populace has anti-bodies, that leaves 30% who are still capable of getting infected if exposed. So what kind of immunity is that? Better to get vaccinated in my opinion assuming that the vaccine is safe and effective. I think the experts use herd immunity to imply that the risk of rapid spreading is statistically reduced. The theory is that if 70% can't transmit this disease it will eventually die out and the herd immunity rate for less infectious diseases is even lower than that. As nasty as this thing is, 70% might not get it tho. It is still conjecture about whether there really is immunity to this and how long it lasts. I have very little confidence in anything I am hearing from the "experts" because they can't keep the story straight from day to day. I think there is a blind monkey throwing darts at a board for the story of the day. Whenever a dart hits, a little more is learned. They don't call this a novel virus for no reason. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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#5
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 12:58:18 -0400, John wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 14:46:04 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 12:44:30 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 15:00:25 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/hea...-be-looking-to === It seems logical to me that the term "herd immunity" is a bit of a misnomer. If 70% of the populace has anti-bodies, that leaves 30% who are still capable of getting infected if exposed. So what kind of immunity is that? Better to get vaccinated in my opinion assuming that the vaccine is safe and effective. I think the experts use herd immunity to imply that the risk of rapid spreading is statistically reduced. The theory is that if 70% can't transmit this disease it will eventually die out and the herd immunity rate for less infectious diseases is even lower than that. As nasty as this thing is, 70% might not get it tho. It is still conjecture about whether there really is immunity to this and how long it lasts. I have very little confidence in anything I am hearing from the "experts" because they can't keep the story straight from day to day. I think there is a blind monkey throwing darts at a board for the story of the day. Whenever a dart hits, a little more is learned. They don't call this a novel virus for no reason. Yes but we are learning about a lot of things that may not work. That is OK if it is voluntary but when it is the point of a government gun, the evidence should be clear. You shouldn't be making law based on "might" and "maybe". |
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#6
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 23:55:54 -0400, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 12:58:18 -0400, John wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 14:46:04 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 12:44:30 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 15:00:25 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/hea...-be-looking-to === It seems logical to me that the term "herd immunity" is a bit of a misnomer. If 70% of the populace has anti-bodies, that leaves 30% who are still capable of getting infected if exposed. So what kind of immunity is that? Better to get vaccinated in my opinion assuming that the vaccine is safe and effective. I think the experts use herd immunity to imply that the risk of rapid spreading is statistically reduced. The theory is that if 70% can't transmit this disease it will eventually die out and the herd immunity rate for less infectious diseases is even lower than that. As nasty as this thing is, 70% might not get it tho. It is still conjecture about whether there really is immunity to this and how long it lasts. I have very little confidence in anything I am hearing from the "experts" because they can't keep the story straight from day to day. I think there is a blind monkey throwing darts at a board for the story of the day. Whenever a dart hits, a little more is learned. They don't call this a novel virus for no reason. Yes but we are learning about a lot of things that may not work. That is OK if it is voluntary but when it is the point of a government gun, the evidence should be clear. You shouldn't be making law based on "might" and "maybe". *YOU* are the one with all the 'mights' and 'maybes'. You've been presented with several studies showing the worth of masks. You choose to disregard them, seeking any bull**** you can find to show their lack of effectiveness. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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#7
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On 8/18/20 10:44 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 15:00:25 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/hea...-be-looking-to === It seems logical to me that the term "herd immunity" is a bit of a misnomer. If 70% of the populace has anti-bodies, that leaves 30% who are still capable of getting infected if exposed. So what kind of immunity is that? Better to get vaccinated in my opinion assuming that the vaccine is safe and effective. I think the experts use herd immunity to imply that the risk of rapid spreading is statistically reduced. I never get flu shots and I'm reluctant to get whatever they come up with. |
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#8
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On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 18:48:06 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:
On 8/18/20 10:44 AM, wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 15:00:25 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/hea...-be-looking-to === It seems logical to me that the term "herd immunity" is a bit of a misnomer. If 70% of the populace has anti-bodies, that leaves 30% who are still capable of getting infected if exposed. So what kind of immunity is that? Better to get vaccinated in my opinion assuming that the vaccine is safe and effective. I think the experts use herd immunity to imply that the risk of rapid spreading is statistically reduced. I never get flu shots and I'm reluctant to get whatever they come up with. I was at the "Nurse" today. I have never seen my doctor in 3 years. At any rate she had an interesting factoid. Medicare providers, including Advantage providers get gigged by the insurance company carrying your Gap or Advantage policy if they don't show you getting a flu shot. If they get gigged often enough for various "infractions" they are not renewed. That may be why your PCP pushes the shot. I dunno, she may be misstating this but I did ask her to say it again because it surprised me. Same with Shingles and Pneumonia shots. That may be why drug stores want to know who your PCP is, so they can punch the ticket for them. |
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#9
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On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 18:48:06 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote:
On 8/18/20 10:44 AM, wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 15:00:25 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/hea...-be-looking-to === It seems logical to me that the term "herd immunity" is a bit of a misnomer. If 70% of the populace has anti-bodies, that leaves 30% who are still capable of getting infected if exposed. So what kind of immunity is that? Better to get vaccinated in my opinion assuming that the vaccine is safe and effective. I think the experts use herd immunity to imply that the risk of rapid spreading is statistically reduced. I never get flu shots and I'm reluctant to get whatever they come up with. === I had a really nasty case of the flu 6 years ago, the sickest I can ever remember, and never want to be that sick again. We now get our flu shots very faithfully every year. I have known rwo people who died from the flu, middle aged, active and otherwise healthy. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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On 8/18/20 9:42 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 18:48:06 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: On 8/18/20 10:44 AM, wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 15:00:25 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/hea...-be-looking-to === It seems logical to me that the term "herd immunity" is a bit of a misnomer. If 70% of the populace has anti-bodies, that leaves 30% who are still capable of getting infected if exposed. So what kind of immunity is that? Better to get vaccinated in my opinion assuming that the vaccine is safe and effective. I think the experts use herd immunity to imply that the risk of rapid spreading is statistically reduced. I never get flu shots and I'm reluctant to get whatever they come up with. === I had a really nasty case of the flu 6 years ago, the sickest I can ever remember, and never want to be that sick again. We now get our flu shots very faithfully every year. I have known rwo people who died from the flu, middle aged, active and otherwise healthy. I read somewhere there's about a 15% likelihood that the flu shot for any given year will immunize you from whatever flu is going around that year. I dont like those odds. |
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