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Because denying reality is part of what Trump****s are good at...
"At the 2015 Family Leadership Summit in Ames, Iowa, during his presidential campaign, Trump mocked McCain, who was captured and tortured by North Vietnamese forces during the Vietnam War, saying he liked people who “weren’t captured” and aren’t “losers.” https://www.standard.co.uk/news/worl...ld-trump-john- mccain-loser-a4540421.html |
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Nomen Nescio wrote:
Because denying reality is part of what Trump****s are good at... "At the 2015 Family Leadership Summit in Ames, Iowa, during his presidential campaign, Trump mocked McCain, who was captured and tortured by North Vietnamese forces during the Vietnam War, saying he liked people who “weren’t captured” and aren’t “losers.” https://www.standard.co.uk/news/worl...ld-trump-john- mccain-loser-a4540421.html What made McCain a hero? |
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On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 17:59:09 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: Nomen Nescio wrote: Because denying reality is part of what Trump****s are good at... "At the 2015 Family Leadership Summit in Ames, Iowa, during his presidential campaign, Trump mocked McCain, who was captured and tortured by North Vietnamese forces during the Vietnam War, saying he liked people who “weren’t captured” and aren’t “losers.” https://www.standard.co.uk/news/worl...ld-trump-john- mccain-loser-a4540421.html What made McCain a hero? === https://www.businessinsider.com/john-mccain-refused-early-release-as-a-pow-in-vietnam-2018-8 --- After nearly a year of imprisonment in Hanoi, McCain was offered release. But he refused to leave his fellow prisoners behind. McCain's subsequent torture and false confession, which provoked him to attempt suicide twice, earned him special respect in the eyes of many Americans. --- -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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On Sat, 05 Sep 2020 15:08:32 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 17:59:09 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Nomen Nescio wrote: Because denying reality is part of what Trump****s are good at... "At the 2015 Family Leadership Summit in Ames, Iowa, during his presidential campaign, Trump mocked McCain, who was captured and tortured by North Vietnamese forces during the Vietnam War, saying he liked people who “weren’t captured” and aren’t “losers.” https://www.standard.co.uk/news/worl...ld-trump-john- mccain-loser-a4540421.html What made McCain a hero? === https://www.businessinsider.com/john-mccain-refused-early-release-as-a-pow-in-vietnam-2018-8 --- After nearly a year of imprisonment in Hanoi, McCain was offered release. But he refused to leave his fellow prisoners behind. McCain's subsequent torture and false confession, which provoked him to attempt suicide twice, earned him special respect in the eyes of many Americans. --- Agreed. Local Bay Area guy was a fellow prisoner. Says McCain not sharpest knife in the drawer. What was accomplished by not leaving fellow prisoners behind? Guy in Stockton, California was a Hanoi Hilton resident. Later was a contracted instructor for the military in handling being a POW. He was shot down by a guy with an AK47 and a magic bullet entering he jet intake. He says after a couple weeks, tell them anything they want to know, as nothing is secret by then that you are aware of. |
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#6
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On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 22:09:16 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: wrote: On Sat, 05 Sep 2020 15:08:32 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 17:59:09 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Nomen Nescio wrote: Because denying reality is part of what Trump****s are good at... "At the 2015 Family Leadership Summit in Ames, Iowa, during his presidential campaign, Trump mocked McCain, who was captured and tortured by North Vietnamese forces during the Vietnam War, saying he liked people who “weren’t captured” and aren’t “losers.” https://www.standard.co.uk/news/worl...ld-trump-john- mccain-loser-a4540421.html What made McCain a hero? === https://www.businessinsider.com/john-mccain-refused-early-release-as-a-pow-in-vietnam-2018-8 --- After nearly a year of imprisonment in Hanoi, McCain was offered release. But he refused to leave his fellow prisoners behind. McCain's subsequent torture and false confession, which provoked him to attempt suicide twice, earned him special respect in the eyes of many Americans. --- Agreed. Local Bay Area guy was a fellow prisoner. Says McCain not sharpest knife in the drawer. What was accomplished by not leaving fellow prisoners behind? Guy in Stockton, California was a Hanoi Hilton resident. Later was a contracted instructor for the military in handling being a POW. He was shot down by a guy with an AK47 and a magic bullet entering he jet intake. He says after a couple weeks, tell them anything they want to know, as nothing is secret by then that you are aware of. McCain did his best to uphold the Code Of Conduct and that is worthy of something if you believe in your enlistment oath at all. I understand it is pentagon wishful thinking by people who may have never left the E ring for most of their career but we all had to learn it and were supposed to believe it. I also know my father was a POW in WWII and he says you do what you have to do to survive. I will give the Germans credit, they were soldiers, not torturers or murderers. This was after Ambleve tho and most of them understood they might have to actually answer for their crimes. For about half the time he was with them, they were running toward the American lines trying to get away from the Russians. Everyone was hungry. |
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#7
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On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 22:09:16 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Sat, 05 Sep 2020 15:08:32 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 17:59:09 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Nomen Nescio wrote: Because denying reality is part of what Trump****s are good at... "At the 2015 Family Leadership Summit in Ames, Iowa, during his presidential campaign, Trump mocked McCain, who was captured and tortured by North Vietnamese forces during the Vietnam War, saying he liked people who “weren’t captured” and aren’t “losers.” https://www.standard.co.uk/news/worl...ld-trump-john- mccain-loser-a4540421.html What made McCain a hero? === https://www.businessinsider.com/john-mccain-refused-early-release-as-a-pow-in-vietnam-2018-8 --- After nearly a year of imprisonment in Hanoi, McCain was offered release. But he refused to leave his fellow prisoners behind. McCain's subsequent torture and false confession, which provoked him to attempt suicide twice, earned him special respect in the eyes of many Americans. --- Agreed. Local Bay Area guy was a fellow prisoner. Says McCain not sharpest knife in the drawer. What was accomplished by not leaving fellow prisoners behind? Guy in Stockton, California was a Hanoi Hilton resident. Later was a contracted instructor for the military in handling being a POW. He was shot down by a guy with an AK47 and a magic bullet entering he jet intake. He says after a couple weeks, tell them anything they want to know, as nothing is secret by then that you are aware of. McCain did his best to uphold the Code Of Conduct and that is worthy of something if you believe in your enlistment oath at all. I understand it is pentagon wishful thinking by people who may have never left the E ring for most of their career but we all had to learn it and were supposed to believe it. I also know my father was a POW in WWII and he says you do what you have to do to survive. I will give the Germans credit, they were soldiers, not torturers or murderers. This was after Ambleve tho and most of them understood they might have to actually answer for their crimes. For about half the time he was with them, they were running toward the American lines trying to get away from the Russians. Everyone was hungry. He did his job. I just don’t understand the hero designation. True about the Germans. My uncle spent the war in the South Pacific as a shooter. Went out the Golden Gate during the first black out of WW2 on the West Coast to Guadalcanal. Army. Woke up in the hospital in the Philippines on the day the Japanese surrendered. He said very little about the war, but said the worst thing was to be a POW of the Japanese. So it was pretty much a fight to the death war in the Pacific for the foot soldiers. |
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On Sun, 6 Sep 2020 07:50:04 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: wrote: On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 22:09:16 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Sat, 05 Sep 2020 15:08:32 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 17:59:09 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Nomen Nescio wrote: Because denying reality is part of what Trump****s are good at... "At the 2015 Family Leadership Summit in Ames, Iowa, during his presidential campaign, Trump mocked McCain, who was captured and tortured by North Vietnamese forces during the Vietnam War, saying he liked people who “weren’t captured” and aren’t “losers.” https://www.standard.co.uk/news/worl...ld-trump-john- mccain-loser-a4540421.html What made McCain a hero? === https://www.businessinsider.com/john-mccain-refused-early-release-as-a-pow-in-vietnam-2018-8 --- After nearly a year of imprisonment in Hanoi, McCain was offered release. But he refused to leave his fellow prisoners behind. McCain's subsequent torture and false confession, which provoked him to attempt suicide twice, earned him special respect in the eyes of many Americans. --- Agreed. Local Bay Area guy was a fellow prisoner. Says McCain not sharpest knife in the drawer. What was accomplished by not leaving fellow prisoners behind? Guy in Stockton, California was a Hanoi Hilton resident. Later was a contracted instructor for the military in handling being a POW. He was shot down by a guy with an AK47 and a magic bullet entering he jet intake. He says after a couple weeks, tell them anything they want to know, as nothing is secret by then that you are aware of. McCain did his best to uphold the Code Of Conduct and that is worthy of something if you believe in your enlistment oath at all. I understand it is pentagon wishful thinking by people who may have never left the E ring for most of their career but we all had to learn it and were supposed to believe it. I also know my father was a POW in WWII and he says you do what you have to do to survive. I will give the Germans credit, they were soldiers, not torturers or murderers. This was after Ambleve tho and most of them understood they might have to actually answer for their crimes. For about half the time he was with them, they were running toward the American lines trying to get away from the Russians. Everyone was hungry. He did his job. I just don’t understand the hero designation. True about the Germans. My uncle spent the war in the South Pacific as a shooter. Went out the Golden Gate during the first black out of WW2 on the West Coast to Guadalcanal. Army. Woke up in the hospital in the Philippines on the day the Japanese surrendered. He said very little about the war, but said the worst thing was to be a POW of the Japanese. So it was pretty much a fight to the death war in the Pacific for the foot soldiers. I don't agree with the 'hero' moniker either. Staying behind shows comradeship and compassion, but not heroism. If being a POW# is 'heroic' then all POW should have received medals for heroism. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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