On 11/9/20 2:57 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/9/20 2:35 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 12:48:30 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

"Justan O." Wrote in message:r
Likes Biden. I'm glad I didn't pull my investments and put them in cash. Let's turn lemons into lemonade. That is if you have any. Got it Fat Harry?

My energy stock is up 30% today. This is crazy. Whats going on?

===

Energy stocks have been depressed this year largely because of greatly
reduced travel plans and the "work from home" trend. The vaccine news
is being taken as a big step in the right direction for returning to
normal. Let's hope.


I wonder how much "business meeting travel" will recover. I know it will
come back, but with the vast improvement in meeting software and the
tons of $$$ it saves, I'd bet corporate planning doesn't get back to its
previous spending level for meetings.

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*Expand the Supreme Court!*

There will be less junkets going to the far east unless Biden screws the
pooch.

On Monday, November 9, 2020 at 2:31:00 PM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 08:51:27 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:
On Monday, November 9, 2020 at 11:28:49 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 15:51:49 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:
Likes Biden. I'm glad I didn't pull my investments and put them in cash.
Let's turn lemons into lemonade. That is if you have any. Got it Fat Harry?
===

The market is looking forward to some adult leadership and a steady
hand on the helm (note sly boating reference). :-)

Actually, the market likes stability, and it liked Trump until covid. Record low unemployment, business booming, etc. Remember? Pfizer announced a covid vaccine that appears to be 90% effective, and the market is reacting to that.

But hey, don't let reality get in the way of a political rant.
===

I'm about as apolitical as anyone on this group with the possible
exception of Greg. And actually the market has been doing quite well
even before the Pfizer announcement.

Actually, you have been spruiking for Biden for the last couple of months. That's not "apolitical".

And the market has taken a dump since covid came to town. Just recently it has started to recover, and today it took a huge leap due to the vaccine. Just starting to recover after ****ting the bed isn't my definition of doing well.

Anyway, the biggest threat to our democracy in recent memory is the incoming liberal socialist agenda championed by Kammy and her backers. Biden is a pawn that won't be a factor. Fortunately it seems we'll have a Republican controlled Senate to hold the socialist tide back. We may save our democracy yet.

Hey, you hear the Kammy is in favor of legalizing prostitution? She said it in an interview. Along with killing babies, it's a classy bunch you voted for!

On Monday, November 9, 2020 at 3:23:22 PM UTC-5, Justan O. wrote:
On 11/9/20 2:57 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/9/20 2:35 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 12:48:30 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

"Justan O." Wrote in message:r
Likes Biden. I'm glad I didn't pull my investments and put them in cash. Let's turn lemons into lemonade. That is if you have any. Got it Fat Harry?

My energy stock is up 30% today. This is crazy. Whats going on?

===

Energy stocks have been depressed this year largely because of greatly
reduced travel plans and the "work from home" trend. The vaccine news
is being taken as a big step in the right direction for returning to
normal. Let's hope.


I wonder how much "business meeting travel" will recover. I know it will
come back, but with the vast improvement in meeting software and the
tons of $$$ it saves, I'd bet corporate planning doesn't get back to its
previous spending level for meetings.

--
*Expand the Supreme Court!*
There will be less junkets going to the far east unless Biden screws the
pooch.

Wonder how many private and government jets will be going to the Ukraine? That's where the Biden's were dipping their dicks recently.

On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 12:48:30 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

"Justan O." Wrote in message:r
Likes Biden. I'm glad I didn't pull my investments and put them in cash. Let's turn lemons into lemonade. That is if you have any. Got it Fat Harry?

My energy stock is up 30% today. This is crazy. Whats going on?

I guess I should take a look at mine. The news people are guessing it
is the Pfizer announcement. Airline and cruise ship stocks are up too
(both massive energy customers).

On Mon, 09 Nov 2020 14:30:53 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 08:51:27 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Monday, November 9, 2020 at 11:28:49 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 15:51:49 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:
Likes Biden. I'm glad I didn't pull my investments and put them in cash.
Let's turn lemons into lemonade. That is if you have any. Got it Fat Harry?
===

The market is looking forward to some adult leadership and a steady
hand on the helm (note sly boating reference). :-)

Actually, the market likes stability, and it liked Trump until covid. Record low unemployment, business booming, etc. Remember? Pfizer announced a covid vaccine that appears to be 90% effective, and the market is reacting to that.

But hey, don't let reality get in the way of a political rant.

===

I'm about as apolitical as anyone on this group with the possible
exception of Greg. And actually the market has been doing quite well
even before the Pfizer announcement. Trump has no one to blame but
himself for the mismanagement of Covid and it probably cost him the
election. Denying science and spreading misinformation is a recipe
for disaster.

Trump lost because the "I hate Trump" people turned out and there were
about 76 million of them. Trump's 71 million was also a record.

On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 14:57:50 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/9/20 2:35 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 12:48:30 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

"Justan O." Wrote in message:r
Likes Biden. I'm glad I didn't pull my investments and put them in cash. Let's turn lemons into lemonade. That is if you have any. Got it Fat Harry?

My energy stock is up 30% today. This is crazy. Whats going on?

===

Energy stocks have been depressed this year largely because of greatly
reduced travel plans and the "work from home" trend. The vaccine news
is being taken as a big step in the right direction for returning to
normal. Let's hope.


I wonder how much "business meeting travel" will recover. I know it will
come back, but with the vast improvement in meeting software and the
tons of $$$ it saves, I'd bet corporate planning doesn't get back to its
previous spending level for meetings.

I suspect you are right, at least for middle management. The senior
guys still like a nice trip to an exotic place on the company dime
tho.
I also think we will see more "work from home" going on although that
is not really new. IBM was pushing people out of the office 25 years
ago and laying off the support staff. This just gave some companies a
better chance to try it out.

On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 17:25:49 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

Actually, you have been spruiking for Biden for the last couple of months. That's not "apolitical".

===

Pointing out Trump's character flaws and failings is not the same as
spruiking for Biden.

On 11/9/20 9:25 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 09 Nov 2020 14:30:53 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 08:51:27 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Monday, November 9, 2020 at 11:28:49 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 15:51:49 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:
Likes Biden. I'm glad I didn't pull my investments and put them in cash.
Let's turn lemons into lemonade. That is if you have any. Got it Fat Harry?
===

The market is looking forward to some adult leadership and a steady
hand on the helm (note sly boating reference). :-)

Actually, the market likes stability, and it liked Trump until covid. Record low unemployment, business booming, etc. Remember? Pfizer announced a covid vaccine that appears to be 90% effective, and the market is reacting to that.

But hey, don't let reality get in the way of a political rant.

===

I'm about as apolitical as anyone on this group with the possible
exception of Greg. And actually the market has been doing quite well
even before the Pfizer announcement. Trump has no one to blame but
himself for the mismanagement of Covid and it probably cost him the
election. Denying science and spreading misinformation is a recipe
for disaster.

Trump lost because the "I hate Trump" people turned out and there were
about 76 million of them. Trump's 71 million was also a record.


Trump lost because the majority of voters controlling enough Electoral
College votes determined with finality that Trump was incompetent, a
racist pig, and unfit for the office. If tens of millions of voters
"hated" Trump, it was because of his horrific behavior and policies.
Recovering from Trumpism will be a true test of this country's mettle.

--
*Expand the Supreme Court!*

On 11/9/20 9:35 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 14:57:50 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/9/20 2:35 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 12:48:30 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

"Justan O." Wrote in message:r
Likes Biden. I'm glad I didn't pull my investments and put them in cash. Let's turn lemons into lemonade. That is if you have any. Got it Fat Harry?

My energy stock is up 30% today. This is crazy. Whats going on?

===

Energy stocks have been depressed this year largely because of greatly
reduced travel plans and the "work from home" trend. The vaccine news
is being taken as a big step in the right direction for returning to
normal. Let's hope.


I wonder how much "business meeting travel" will recover. I know it will
come back, but with the vast improvement in meeting software and the
tons of $$$ it saves, I'd bet corporate planning doesn't get back to its
previous spending level for meetings.

I suspect you are right, at least for middle management. The senior
guys still like a nice trip to an exotic place on the company dime
tho.
I also think we will see more "work from home" going on although that
is not really new. IBM was pushing people out of the office 25 years
ago and laying off the support staff. This just gave some companies a
better chance to try it out.


Most of the headquarters employees where my wife works are working from
home, and it is possible because of decent video teleconferencing
software, VPN, telephones, and the usual internet facilities. The union
held its DOL-manadated five year convention in September via video
teleconferencing, and it worked out pretty well. Regional meetings are
being held that way, and so are training seminars. I don't have any idea
what the group's annual meeting budget is, but obviously many dollars
are not being spent on travel, hotels, banquets, et cetera. I really
wonder if the group will return to its "normal" travel schedule once the
virus is under control and air travel goes back to its normal terrible
experience.

--
*Expand the Supreme Court!*

On 11/10/20 7:10 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/9/20 9:25 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 09 Nov 2020 14:30:53 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 08:51:27 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Monday, November 9, 2020 at 11:28:49 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 15:51:49 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O."
wrote:
Likes Biden. I'm glad I didn't pull my investments and put them in cash.
Let's turn lemons into lemonade. That is if you have any. Got it Fat Harry?
===

The market is looking forward to some adult leadership and a steady
hand on the helm (note sly boating reference). :-)

Actually, the market likes stability, and it liked Trump until covid. Record low unemployment, business booming, etc. Remember? Pfizer announced a covid vaccine that appears to be 90% effective, and the market is reacting to that.

But hey, don't let reality get in the way of a political rant.

===

I'm about as apolitical as anyone on this group with the possible
exception of Greg. And actually the market has been doing quite well
even before the Pfizer announcement. Trump has no one to blame but
himself for the mismanagement of Covid and it probably cost him the
election. Denying science and spreading misinformation is a recipe
for disaster.

Trump lost because the "I hate Trump" people turned out and there were
about 76 million of them. Trump's 71 million was also a record.


Trump lost because the majority of voters controlling enough Electoral
College votes determined with finality that Trump was incompetent, a
racist pig, and unfit for the office. If tens of millions of voters
"hated" Trump, it was because of his horrific behavior and policies.
Recovering from Trumpism will be a true test of this country's mettle.

--
*Expand the Supreme Court!*

Will you be able to live on your wife's salary when the tax and spend boys
and girls take over? Speaking of salary. Why didn't wifey get a big pay
boost after spending 100k on her education?