On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 23:54:25 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/23/20 11:59 AM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 18:39:01 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/22/20 5:25 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/22/20 2:31 PM, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 22 November 2020 at 14:34:07 UTC-4, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/22/20 11:17 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 08:39:40 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Donald Trump made explicit Saturday the strategy his legal team has been
hinting at for days: He wants Republican-led legislatures to overturn
election results in states that Joe Biden won.

"Why is Joe Biden so quickly forming a Cabinet when my investigators
have found hundreds of thousands of fraudulent votes, enough to “flip”
at least four States, which in turn is more than enough to win the
Election?" Trump said, despite *refusing to produce any such evidence*
either publicly or in court cases filed by his attorneys.


Trump's investigators, led by his Mascara Man Lawyer, Rudee Jeweleanni.

===

I have thought for many years that Trump's behavior was lower that
whale **** at 2,000 fathoms, lower than pond scum even. His recent
actions have removed any doubt.


Trump is doing tremendous harm to this country in many ways, and he just
doesn't give a damn. Of course, he never did. That he still has so much
support says awful things about Americans. I have often compared Trump
to what I have read and seen about Mussolini, and I wonder if he will
come to the same end.

I am not sure it is tremendous harm. Maybe it will bring about reforms.
Maybe Chicago may not be able to get dead people to rise up and vote.
Maybe we will actually purge the voter rolls of people who have moved and
reregistered. Harm is Nancy Pelosi! Holding up any stimulus bill until
after the election. Standing hidebound for a $2.2 trillion stimulus
package. Will not negotiate. That is harm. Screw the people of the
country, so we can take over the government completely. Sounds like a
dictatorship. Sort of like, we will expand the SCOTUS with OUR PEOPLE and
override any thing against OUR agenda.



Sure sounds like y'all need to reform your system.
In a federal election, procedures should be the same all across the
country. Your system of "states rights" are way out of kilter for a
modern progressive country. It's like you're stuck in 1776.


I agree that all federal elections should follow all the same rules in
every state.


You should have taken a Civics course or paid attention in class.


Why should elections for federal offices be held by different rules in
different states?

The Constitution did not require that Senators be voted in at all
until 1913 (17th amendment) and the selection of electors to the EC is
still up to the state legislatures. It would require another amendment
to change that.


That.


The fact is the process is hopelessly outdated. There is no logical
reason to have a crazy quilt of laws and equipment across the states for
federal office elections.


As long as he equipment can be certified and not hacked, no problem having
different systems. I still think a paper ballot you Mark and then the
machine scans right away to make sure is correctly filled out is the best.
Then also a paper trail. Also think there should be an ID required. Not a
problem for anybody legal. You have to have ID for beer, the Doctor, the
bank, to drive and if don’t drive, you still get a state id.

It's the Democrats last holdout. Getting an ID to vote is 'too burdensome'. What
absolute horse****!
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On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 07:15:11 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/23/20 11:27 PM, Bill wrote:
Wayne B wrote:
On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 23:54:25 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

As long as he equipment can be certified and not hacked, no problem having
different systems. I still think a paper ballot you Mark and then the
machine scans right away to make sure is correctly filled out is the best.
Then also a paper trail.

=== That's how it's done in Florida.

Also think there should be an ID required. Not a
problem for anybody legal. You have to have ID for beer, the Doctor, the
bank, to drive and if don?t drive, you still get a state id.

===

I agree, never understood the arguments against it.


Hard for dead people to show ID.


Problems arise in areas where the Republican-controlled state
governments deliberately minimize the availability of places to get such
an ID and the acceptability of what paperwork is necessary to get an ID.
This is especially true in rural areas. A lot of minorities and low
income people don't have the ability to get to a place where you can
apply for an ID and they don't have the documents you need to get one.

How do they buy beer at 7/11, dip****?
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On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 15:24:39 -0000 (UTC), "Justan O." wrote:

On 11/24/20 10:18 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 07:15:11 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/23/20 11:27 PM, Bill wrote:
Wayne B wrote:
On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 23:54:25 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

As long as he equipment can be certified and not hacked, no problem having
different systems. I still think a paper ballot you Mark and then the
machine scans right away to make sure is correctly filled out is the best.
Then also a paper trail.

=== That's how it's done in Florida.

Also think there should be an ID required. Not a
problem for anybody legal. You have to have ID for beer, the Doctor, the
bank, to drive and if don?t drive, you still get a state id.

===

I agree, never understood the arguments against it.


Hard for dead people to show ID.


Problems arise in areas where the Republican-controlled state
governments deliberately minimize the availability of places to get such
an ID and the acceptability of what paperwork is necessary to get an ID.
This is especially true in rural areas. A lot of minorities and low
income people don't have the ability to get to a place where you can
apply for an ID and they don't have the documents you need to get one.

===

I don't buy that. You can't even get into a doctor's office without
ID these days.

Every so often you seem to get a whiff of fresh air.:-)

Amen.
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John wrote:
On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 07:15:11 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/23/20 11:27 PM, Bill wrote:
Wayne B wrote:
On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 23:54:25 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

As long as he equipment can be certified and not hacked, no problem having
different systems. I still think a paper ballot you Mark and then the
machine scans right away to make sure is correctly filled out is the best.
Then also a paper trail.

=== That's how it's done in Florida.

Also think there should be an ID required. Not a
problem for anybody legal. You have to have ID for beer, the Doctor, the
bank, to drive and if don?t drive, you still get a state id.

===

I agree, never understood the arguments against it.


Hard for dead people to show ID.


Problems arise in areas where the Republican-controlled state
governments deliberately minimize the availability of places to get such
an ID and the acceptability of what paperwork is necessary to get an ID.
This is especially true in rural areas. A lot of minorities and low
income people don't have the ability to get to a place where you can
apply for an ID and they don't have the documents you need to get one.

How do they buy beer at 7/11, dip****?
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Buy?

On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 03:55:35 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

John wrote:
On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 07:15:11 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/23/20 11:27 PM, Bill wrote:
Wayne B wrote:
On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 23:54:25 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

As long as he equipment can be certified and not hacked, no problem having
different systems. I still think a paper ballot you Mark and then the
machine scans right away to make sure is correctly filled out is the best.
Then also a paper trail.

=== That's how it's done in Florida.

Also think there should be an ID required. Not a
problem for anybody legal. You have to have ID for beer, the Doctor, the
bank, to drive and if don?t drive, you still get a state id.

===

I agree, never understood the arguments against it.


Hard for dead people to show ID.


Problems arise in areas where the Republican-controlled state
governments deliberately minimize the availability of places to get such
an ID and the acceptability of what paperwork is necessary to get an ID.
This is especially true in rural areas. A lot of minorities and low
income people don't have the ability to get to a place where you can
apply for an ID and they don't have the documents you need to get one.

How do they buy beer at 7/11, dip****?
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Freedom Isn't Free!


Buy?

LOL! (Really!)
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