| Page 1 of 2 | 1 | 2 |
|
|
The only good thing politically...
....that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump.
-- Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com, Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull, Witless, Insult-Tossing Trumpsters. |
The only good thing politically...
On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- No doubt about it mk5000 Some have crosses bells that ring Most have angels painted with wings Old men and blind ones can find their way in Got statues and apostles and other godly things--Hospital for Sinners, Wallflowers |
The only good thing politically...
marika wrote:
On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: ...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- No doubt about it mk5000 Some have crosses bells that ring Most have angels painted with wings Old men and blind ones can find their way in Got statues and apostles and other godly things--Hospital for Sinners, Wallflowers And you think a war mongering, tax raising Biden is an improvement? |
The only good thing politically...
On 12/31/20 8:40 PM, Bill wrote:
marika wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: ...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- No doubt about it mk5000 Some have crosses bells that ring Most have angels painted with wings Old men and blind ones can find their way in Got statues and apostles and other godly things--Hospital for Sinners, Wallflowers And you think a war mongering, tax raising Biden is an improvement? And once again, you demonstrate your ignorance. -- Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com, Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull, Witless, Insult-Tossing Trumpsters. |
The only good thing politically...
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 21:23:52 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 12/31/20 8:40 PM, Bill wrote: marika wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: ...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- No doubt about it mk5000 Some have crosses bells that ring Most have angels painted with wings Old men and blind ones can find their way in Got statues and apostles and other godly things--Hospital for Sinners, Wallflowers And you think a war mongering, tax raising Biden is an improvement? And once again, you demonstrate your ignorance. We will see won't we? It is the democrats who are fighting the withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan and Iraq/Syria. Biden might double down there like his boss did, further entangling us in a place that is none of our business. Tax hikes are a certainty. He ran on that. It actually might not be a horrible idea if they would not increase spending and make the tax hike moot. Unfortunately democrats are the tax and spend party. Tax a little, spend a lot. The GOP isn't any better. Nobody has even mentioned how we plan to pay for all this deficit spending we have done in the last year. I notice the democrats had no problem rushing HR9051 through the house without even questioning where the $600 Billion was coming from. (Up from the $194 Billion to fund the $600 check in HR 133 that is not paid for). |
The only good thing politically...
Bill wrote:
marika wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: ...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- No doubt about it mk5000 Some have crosses bells that ring Most have angels painted with wings Old men and blind ones can find their way in Got statues and apostles and other godly things--Hospital for Sinners, Wallflowers And you think a war mongering, tax raising Biden is an improvement? He doesn't pay taxes. |
The only good thing politically...
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/31/20 8:40 PM, Bill wrote: marika wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: ...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- No doubt about it mk5000 Some have crosses bells that ring Most have angels painted with wings Old men and blind ones can find their way in Got statues and apostles and other godly things--Hospital for Sinners, Wallflowers And you think a war mongering, tax raising Biden is an improvement? And once again, you demonstrate your ignorance. What ignorance? Biden is already stating he is raising taxes. And he and his party are complaining about getting out of the Middle East. Seems as if took a Republican to get us out of Vietnam, in 4 years, is a non ..Democrat POTUS finally going to,extract us from the quagmire? |
The only good thing politically...
On 1/1/21 1:31 AM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/31/20 8:40 PM, Bill wrote: marika wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: ...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- No doubt about it mk5000 Some have crosses bells that ring Most have angels painted with wings Old men and blind ones can find their way in Got statues and apostles and other godly things--Hospital for Sinners, Wallflowers And you think a war mongering, tax raising Biden is an improvement? And once again, you demonstrate your ignorance. What ignorance? Biden is already stating he is raising taxes. And he and his party are complaining about getting out of the Middle East. Seems as if took a Republican to get us out of Vietnam, in 4 years, is a non .Democrat POTUS finally going to,extract us from the quagmire? Restoring corporate tax cuts and raising taxes on the wealthy ($400,000 + a year) is reasonable. Decades of data shows that trickle-down only results in golden showers. Isolationism is a stupid national strategy for this country, -- Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com, Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull, Witless, Insult-Tossing Trumpsters. |
The only good thing politically...
On 1/1/21 1:31 AM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/31/20 8:40 PM, Bill wrote: marika wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: ...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- No doubt about it mk5000 Some have crosses bells that ring Most have angels painted with wings Old men and blind ones can find their way in Got statues and apostles and other godly things--Hospital for Sinners, Wallflowers And you think a war mongering, tax raising Biden is an improvement? And once again, you demonstrate your ignorance. What ignorance? Biden is already stating he is raising taxes. And he and his party are complaining about getting out of the Middle East. Seems as if took a Republican to get us out of Vietnam, in 4 years, is a non .Democrat POTUS finally going to,extract us from the quagmire? All Joey is going to do is pour molasses all over the swamp. |
The only good thing politically...
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/1/21 1:31 AM, Bill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/31/20 8:40 PM, Bill wrote: marika wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: ...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- No doubt about it mk5000 Some have crosses bells that ring Most have angels painted with wings Old men and blind ones can find their way in Got statues and apostles and other godly things--Hospital for Sinners, Wallflowers And you think a war mongering, tax raising Biden is an improvement? And once again, you demonstrate your ignorance. What ignorance? Biden is already stating he is raising taxes. And he and his party are complaining about getting out of the Middle East. Seems as if took a Republican to get us out of Vietnam, in 4 years, is a non .Democrat POTUS finally going to,extract us from the quagmire? Restoring corporate tax cuts and raising taxes on the wealthy ($400,000 + a year) is reasonable. Decades of data shows that trickle-down only results in golden showers. Isolationism is a stupid national strategy for this country, Who pays those corporate taxes? Decades of Democrat ruling, has given us billionaire high tech executives who support the Democrats as they let them get away with paying themselves excessive salaries while letting them hire foreign workers at less than the going rates for degrees engineers. While there are unemployed AMERICANS with the same degrees. |
The only good thing politically...
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 18:08:09 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/1/21 1:31 AM, Bill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/31/20 8:40 PM, Bill wrote: marika wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: ...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- No doubt about it mk5000 Some have crosses bells that ring Most have angels painted with wings Old men and blind ones can find their way in Got statues and apostles and other godly things--Hospital for Sinners, Wallflowers And you think a war mongering, tax raising Biden is an improvement? And once again, you demonstrate your ignorance. What ignorance? Biden is already stating he is raising taxes. And he and his party are complaining about getting out of the Middle East. Seems as if took a Republican to get us out of Vietnam, in 4 years, is a non .Democrat POTUS finally going to,extract us from the quagmire? Restoring corporate tax cuts and raising taxes on the wealthy ($400,000 + a year) is reasonable. Decades of data shows that trickle-down only results in golden showers. Isolationism is a stupid national strategy for this country, Who pays those corporate taxes? Decades of Democrat ruling, has given us billionaire high tech executives who support the Democrats as they let them get away with paying themselves excessive salaries while letting them hire foreign workers at less than the going rates for degrees engineers. While there are unemployed AMERICANS with the same degrees. Harry still thinks Buffett, Cook and Bezos pay those corporate taxes out of their cut. It just shows up in the price the consumer pays which makes them very regressive. That is not saying much for someone who thinks he is so progressive. |
The only good thing politically...
wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 18:08:09 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/1/21 1:31 AM, Bill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/31/20 8:40 PM, Bill wrote: marika wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: ...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- No doubt about it mk5000 Some have crosses bells that ring Most have angels painted with wings Old men and blind ones can find their way in Got statues and apostles and other godly things--Hospital for Sinners, Wallflowers And you think a war mongering, tax raising Biden is an improvement? And once again, you demonstrate your ignorance. What ignorance? Biden is already stating he is raising taxes. And he and his party are complaining about getting out of the Middle East. Seems as if took a Republican to get us out of Vietnam, in 4 years, is a non .Democrat POTUS finally going to,extract us from the quagmire? Restoring corporate tax cuts and raising taxes on the wealthy ($400,000 + a year) is reasonable. Decades of data shows that trickle-down only results in golden showers. Isolationism is a stupid national strategy for this country, Who pays those corporate taxes? Decades of Democrat ruling, has given us billionaire high tech executives who support the Democrats as they let them get away with paying themselves excessive salaries while letting them hire foreign workers at less than the going rates for degrees engineers. While there are unemployed AMERICANS with the same degrees. Harry still thinks Buffett, Cook and Bezos pay those corporate taxes out of their cut. It just shows up in the price the consumer pays which makes them very regressive. That is not saying much for someone who thinks he is so progressive. Seems as if most Progressives these days are like Harry. Financially stupid. |
The only good thing politically...
On 1/1/21 3:01 PM, Bill wrote:
wrote: On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 18:08:09 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/1/21 1:31 AM, Bill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/31/20 8:40 PM, Bill wrote: marika wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: ...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- No doubt about it mk5000 Some have crosses bells that ring Most have angels painted with wings Old men and blind ones can find their way in Got statues and apostles and other godly things--Hospital for Sinners, Wallflowers And you think a war mongering, tax raising Biden is an improvement? And once again, you demonstrate your ignorance. What ignorance? Biden is already stating he is raising taxes. And he and his party are complaining about getting out of the Middle East. Seems as if took a Republican to get us out of Vietnam, in 4 years, is a non .Democrat POTUS finally going to,extract us from the quagmire? Restoring corporate tax cuts and raising taxes on the wealthy ($400,000 + a year) is reasonable. Decades of data shows that trickle-down only results in golden showers. Isolationism is a stupid national strategy for this country, Who pays those corporate taxes? Decades of Democrat ruling, has given us billionaire high tech executives who support the Democrats as they let them get away with paying themselves excessive salaries while letting them hire foreign workers at less than the going rates for degrees engineers. While there are unemployed AMERICANS with the same degrees. Harry still thinks Buffett, Cook and Bezos pay those corporate taxes out of their cut. It just shows up in the price the consumer pays which makes them very regressive. That is not saying much for someone who thinks he is so progressive. Seems as if most Progressives these days are like Harry. Financially stupid. Why should they care? They don't have to be responsible for anything. |
The only good thing politically...
Justan " wrote:
On 1/1/21 3:01 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 18:08:09 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/1/21 1:31 AM, Bill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/31/20 8:40 PM, Bill wrote: marika wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: ...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- No doubt about it mk5000 Some have crosses bells that ring Most have angels painted with wings Old men and blind ones can find their way in Got statues and apostles and other godly things--Hospital for Sinners, Wallflowers And you think a war mongering, tax raising Biden is an improvement? And once again, you demonstrate your ignorance. What ignorance? Biden is already stating he is raising taxes. And he and his party are complaining about getting out of the Middle East. Seems as if took a Republican to get us out of Vietnam, in 4 years, is a non .Democrat POTUS finally going to,extract us from the quagmire? Restoring corporate tax cuts and raising taxes on the wealthy ($400,000 + a year) is reasonable. Decades of data shows that trickle-down only results in golden showers. Isolationism is a stupid national strategy for this country, Who pays those corporate taxes? Decades of Democrat ruling, has given us billionaire high tech executives who support the Democrats as they let them get away with paying themselves excessive salaries while letting them hire foreign workers at less than the going rates for degrees engineers. While there are unemployed AMERICANS with the same degrees. Harry still thinks Buffett, Cook and Bezos pay those corporate taxes out of their cut. It just shows up in the price the consumer pays which makes them very regressive. That is not saying much for someone who thinks he is so progressive. Seems as if most Progressives these days are like Harry. Financially stupid. Why should they care? They don't have to be responsible for anything. They should care as they are the ones helping pay the taxes. |
The only good thing politically...
On 1/1/21 8:53 PM, Bill wrote:
Justan " wrote: On 1/1/21 3:01 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 18:08:09 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/1/21 1:31 AM, Bill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/31/20 8:40 PM, Bill wrote: marika wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: ...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- No doubt about it mk5000 Some have crosses bells that ring Most have angels painted with wings Old men and blind ones can find their way in Got statues and apostles and other godly things--Hospital for Sinners, Wallflowers And you think a war mongering, tax raising Biden is an improvement? And once again, you demonstrate your ignorance. What ignorance? Biden is already stating he is raising taxes. And he and his party are complaining about getting out of the Middle East. Seems as if took a Republican to get us out of Vietnam, in 4 years, is a non .Democrat POTUS finally going to,extract us from the quagmire? Restoring corporate tax cuts and raising taxes on the wealthy ($400,000 + a year) is reasonable. Decades of data shows that trickle-down only results in golden showers. Isolationism is a stupid national strategy for this country, Who pays those corporate taxes? Decades of Democrat ruling, has given us billionaire high tech executives who support the Democrats as they let them get away with paying themselves excessive salaries while letting them hire foreign workers at less than the going rates for degrees engineers. While there are unemployed AMERICANS with the same degrees. Harry still thinks Buffett, Cook and Bezos pay those corporate taxes out of their cut. It just shows up in the price the consumer pays which makes them very regressive. That is not saying much for someone who thinks he is so progressive. Seems as if most Progressives these days are like Harry. Financially stupid. Why should they care? They don't have to be responsible for anything. They should care as they are the ones helping pay the taxes. If most of them are like Fat Harry, they do Not pay taxes. |
The only good thing politically...
On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- Only to be replaced with...? |
The only good thing politically...
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 07:00:52 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: ...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- Only to be replaced with...? Biden will immediately place Covid controls on all the states, forcing them to adopt his, and only his, plan which will have the Covid problem resolved within at three months. By Feb 1, he will have vaccinated at least 150 million people. And if he doesn't, it will be Trump's fault. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
The only good thing politically...
On 1/2/21 10:00 AM, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: ...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- Only to be replaced with...? BIDEN then Carmella then Nancy. all in short order, I hope. Who's next after Nancy? |
The only good thing politically...
On Sat, 02 Jan 2021 11:20:16 -0500, John wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 07:00:52 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: ...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- Only to be replaced with...? Biden will immediately place Covid controls on all the states, forcing them to adopt his, and only his, plan which will have the Covid problem resolved within at three months. By Feb 1, he will have vaccinated at least 150 million people. === That would be a fantastic accomplishment if he can actually do it. The army certainly knows how to vaccinate a large number of people in a short time - no needles required either. |
The only good thing politically...
Justan " wrote:
On 1/1/21 8:53 PM, Bill wrote: Justan " wrote: On 1/1/21 3:01 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 18:08:09 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/1/21 1:31 AM, Bill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/31/20 8:40 PM, Bill wrote: marika wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: ...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- No doubt about it mk5000 Some have crosses bells that ring Most have angels painted with wings Old men and blind ones can find their way in Got statues and apostles and other godly things--Hospital for Sinners, Wallflowers And you think a war mongering, tax raising Biden is an improvement? And once again, you demonstrate your ignorance. What ignorance? Biden is already stating he is raising taxes. And he and his party are complaining about getting out of the Middle East. Seems as if took a Republican to get us out of Vietnam, in 4 years, is a non .Democrat POTUS finally going to,extract us from the quagmire? Restoring corporate tax cuts and raising taxes on the wealthy ($400,000 + a year) is reasonable. Decades of data shows that trickle-down only results in golden showers. Isolationism is a stupid national strategy for this country, Who pays those corporate taxes? Decades of Democrat ruling, has given us billionaire high tech executives who support the Democrats as they let them get away with paying themselves excessive salaries while letting them hire foreign workers at less than the going rates for degrees engineers. While there are unemployed AMERICANS with the same degrees. Harry still thinks Buffett, Cook and Bezos pay those corporate taxes out of their cut. It just shows up in the price the consumer pays which makes them very regressive. That is not saying much for someone who thinks he is so progressive. Seems as if most Progressives these days are like Harry. Financially stupid. Why should they care? They don't have to be responsible for anything. They should care as they are the ones helping pay the taxes. If most of them are like Fat Harry, they do Not pay taxes. Oh, they do pay the corporate taxes. They are included in the price of the product purchased. |
The only good thing politically...
Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 02 Jan 2021 11:20:16 -0500, John wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 07:00:52 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: ...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- Only to be replaced with...? Biden will immediately place Covid controls on all the states, forcing them to adopt his, and only his, plan which will have the Covid problem resolved within at three months. By Feb 1, he will have vaccinated at least 150 million people. === That would be a fantastic accomplishment if he can actually do it. The army certainly knows how to vaccinate a large number of people in a short time - no needles required either. So does cvs and some supermarket chains. Needles required. |
The only good thing politically...
On 1/2/21 11:51 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 02 Jan 2021 11:20:16 -0500, John wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 07:00:52 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: ...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- Only to be replaced with...? Biden will immediately place Covid controls on all the states, forcing them to adopt his, and only his, plan which will have the Covid problem resolved within at three months. By Feb 1, he will have vaccinated at least 150 million people. === That would be a fantastic accomplishment if he can actually do it. The army certainly knows how to vaccinate a large number of people in a short time - no needles required either. Wow. I don't see many of Herring's posts, but it is Biden's stated goal to have a million Americans vaccinated a day. I favor him doing whatever is necessary to achieve that goal. Further, I favor those who are inoculated being issued some sort of photo ID that indicates they have been, and that those who do not get inoculated and have an ID be kept out of public places, such as restaurants, sporting arenas, public pools, libraries, schools, et cetera, *unless* they have a serious, documented medical condition that precludes vaccination. We need a national plan, nationally implemented. The states are showing they do not have the wherewithal to get everyone inoculated. In the mid-1950s, when the Salk vaccine became available, every kid in New Haven went to the nearest public school for the shots, and I mean every kid. The inoculations were provided without charge, and those doing the injections were school nurses, doctors' office personnel, and hospital personnel, all of whom donated their time to help rid the city of new cases of polio. I've always believed in mandatory vaccinations and in the exclusion of kids from public schools who don't get vaccinated unless they have a serious medical condition that precludes it. Being "anti-vax" is not an acceptable reason. -- Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com, Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull, Witless, Insult-Tossing Trumpsters. |
The only good thing politically...
On 1/2/21 12:12 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/2/21 11:51 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Sat, 02 Jan 2021 11:20:16 -0500, John wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 07:00:52 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: ...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- Only to be replaced with...? Biden will immediately place Covid controls on all the states, forcing them to adopt his, and only his, plan which will have the Covid problem resolved within at three months. By Feb 1, he will have vaccinated at least 150 million people. === That would be a fantastic accomplishment if he can actually do it. The army certainly knows how to vaccinate a large number of people in a short time - no needles required either. Wow. I don't see many of Herring's posts, but it is Biden's stated goal to have a million Americans vaccinated a day. I favor him doing whatever is necessary to achieve that goal. Further, I favor those who are inoculated being issued some sort of photo ID that indicates they have been, and that those who do not get inoculated and have an ID be kept out of public places, such as restaurants, sporting arenas, public pools, libraries, schools, et cetera, *unless* they have a serious, documented medical condition that precludes vaccination. We need a national plan, nationally implemented. The states are showing they do not have the wherewithal to get everyone inoculated. In the mid-1950s, when the Salk vaccine became available, every kid in New Haven went to the nearest public school for the shots, and I mean every kid. The inoculations were provided without charge, and those doing the injections were school nurses, doctors' office personnel, and hospital personnel, all of whom donated their time to help rid the city of new cases of polio. I've always believed in mandatory vaccinations and in the exclusion of kids from public schools who don't get vaccinated unless they have a serious medical condition that precludes it. Being "anti-vax" is not an acceptable reason. What you don't believe in is paying your fair share. Everything costs something. there is no excuse for you being Freddy the Freeloader. Shame on you Fat Harry. |
The only good thing politically...
On 1/2/21 12:05 PM, Bill wrote:
Wayne B wrote: On Sat, 02 Jan 2021 11:20:16 -0500, John wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 07:00:52 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: ...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- Only to be replaced with...? Biden will immediately place Covid controls on all the states, forcing them to adopt his, and only his, plan which will have the Covid problem resolved within at three months. By Feb 1, he will have vaccinated at least 150 million people. === That would be a fantastic accomplishment if he can actually do it. The army certainly knows how to vaccinate a large number of people in a short time - no needles required either. So does cvs and some supermarket chains. Needles required. Those devices were relatively new when I was in. In order to boost our confidence, the corps man would periodically test the device by slicing a leather belt. And he would say something like, "This only happens if you move". |
The only good thing politically...
On 1/2/21 12:05 PM, Bill wrote:
Wayne B wrote: On Sat, 02 Jan 2021 11:20:16 -0500, John wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 07:00:52 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: ...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- Only to be replaced with...? Biden will immediately place Covid controls on all the states, forcing them to adopt his, and only his, plan which will have the Covid problem resolved within at three months. By Feb 1, he will have vaccinated at least 150 million people. === That would be a fantastic accomplishment if he can actually do it. The army certainly knows how to vaccinate a large number of people in a short time - no needles required either. So does cvs and some supermarket chains. Needles required. Around here, at least two of the supermarket chains have full pharmacies and the pharmacist on duty does flu, shingles, and possibly other inoculations. They have been trained on how to inoculate. But they are not set up for doing a large number of inoculations a day. The armed forces have lots of trained personnel who can inoculate and there is no reason not to use them. Inoculating is not a posse comitatus issue. I am sure military personnel in this country would appreciate the ability to perform, if properly protected, a direct public service that would be greatly appreciated. -- Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com, Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull, Witless, Insult-Tossing Trumpsters. |
The only good thing politically...
On 1/2/21 12:05 PM, Bill wrote:
Justan " wrote: On 1/1/21 8:53 PM, Bill wrote: Justan " wrote: On 1/1/21 3:01 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 18:08:09 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/1/21 1:31 AM, Bill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/31/20 8:40 PM, Bill wrote: marika wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: ...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- No doubt about it mk5000 Some have crosses bells that ring Most have angels painted with wings Old men and blind ones can find their way in Got statues and apostles and other godly things--Hospital for Sinners, Wallflowers And you think a war mongering, tax raising Biden is an improvement? And once again, you demonstrate your ignorance. What ignorance? Biden is already stating he is raising taxes. And he and his party are complaining about getting out of the Middle East. Seems as if took a Republican to get us out of Vietnam, in 4 years, is a non .Democrat POTUS finally going to,extract us from the quagmire? Restoring corporate tax cuts and raising taxes on the wealthy ($400,000 + a year) is reasonable. Decades of data shows that trickle-down only results in golden showers. Isolationism is a stupid national strategy for this country, Who pays those corporate taxes? Decades of Democrat ruling, has given us billionaire high tech executives who support the Democrats as they let them get away with paying themselves excessive salaries while letting them hire foreign workers at less than the going rates for degrees engineers. While there are unemployed AMERICANS with the same degrees. Harry still thinks Buffett, Cook and Bezos pay those corporate taxes out of their cut. It just shows up in the price the consumer pays which makes them very regressive. That is not saying much for someone who thinks he is so progressive. Seems as if most Progressives these days are like Harry. Financially stupid. Why should they care? They don't have to be responsible for anything. They should care as they are the ones helping pay the taxes. If most of them are like Fat Harry, they do Not pay taxes. Oh, they do pay the corporate taxes. They are included in the price of the product purchased. Got me there. |
The only good thing politically...
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 07:00:52 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: ...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- Only to be replaced with...? The guy who only got 13% of democrats to call him the most admired man in that gallup poll. You would think Biden and Harris would be the most admired man and woman if you believed the election reflected the mood of the country. |
The only good thing politically...
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 16:35:29 -0000 (UTC), Justan "
wrote: On 1/2/21 10:00 AM, Tim wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: ...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- Only to be replaced with...? BIDEN then Carmella then Nancy. all in short order, I hope. Who's next after Nancy? We won't know for sure until after the Georgia "RUNNOFT" (President Pro Tem of the Senate) |
The only good thing politically...
On Sat, 02 Jan 2021 11:51:53 -0500, Wayne B
wrote: On Sat, 02 Jan 2021 11:20:16 -0500, John wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 07:00:52 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: ...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- Only to be replaced with...? Biden will immediately place Covid controls on all the states, forcing them to adopt his, and only his, plan which will have the Covid problem resolved within at three months. By Feb 1, he will have vaccinated at least 150 million people. === That would be a fantastic accomplishment if he can actually do it. The army certainly knows how to vaccinate a large number of people in a short time - no needles required either. I doubt those guns work with this vaccine and there are some procedural issues when you are vaccinating civilians. In the military, you signed all the papers you sign and gave consent for them to do anything they want to do to you before you got to boot camp. The people best equipped right now are the pharmacies. |
The only good thing politically...
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 12:12:41 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 1/2/21 11:51 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Sat, 02 Jan 2021 11:20:16 -0500, John wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 07:00:52 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: ...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- Only to be replaced with...? Biden will immediately place Covid controls on all the states, forcing them to adopt his, and only his, plan which will have the Covid problem resolved within at three months. By Feb 1, he will have vaccinated at least 150 million people. === That would be a fantastic accomplishment if he can actually do it. The army certainly knows how to vaccinate a large number of people in a short time - no needles required either. Wow. I don't see many of Herring's posts, but it is Biden's stated goal to have a million Americans vaccinated a day. I favor him doing whatever is necessary to achieve that goal. Further, I favor those who are inoculated being issued some sort of photo ID that indicates they have been, and that those who do not get inoculated and have an ID be kept out of public places, such as restaurants, sporting arenas, public pools, libraries, schools, et cetera, *unless* they have a serious, documented medical condition that precludes vaccination. We need a national plan, nationally implemented. The states are showing they do not have the wherewithal to get everyone inoculated. Why not just tattoo a number on their arm? |
The only good thing politically...
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 12:38:45 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 1/2/21 12:05 PM, Bill wrote: Wayne B wrote: On Sat, 02 Jan 2021 11:20:16 -0500, John wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 07:00:52 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: ...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- Only to be replaced with...? Biden will immediately place Covid controls on all the states, forcing them to adopt his, and only his, plan which will have the Covid problem resolved within at three months. By Feb 1, he will have vaccinated at least 150 million people. === That would be a fantastic accomplishment if he can actually do it. The army certainly knows how to vaccinate a large number of people in a short time - no needles required either. So does cvs and some supermarket chains. Needles required. Around here, at least two of the supermarket chains have full pharmacies and the pharmacist on duty does flu, shingles, and possibly other inoculations. They have been trained on how to inoculate. But they are not set up for doing a large number of inoculations a day. The armed forces have lots of trained personnel who can inoculate and there is no reason not to use them. Inoculating is not a posse comitatus issue. I am sure military personnel in this country would appreciate the ability to perform, if properly protected, a direct public service that would be greatly appreciated. They make up for it by having one or more of those places at virtually every big intersection. There are about 40 of them within 10 miles of me in Fumbuck Florida. They can certainly dispense this vaccine as fast as the manufacturers can produce it. If you are saying the military could spare medics and corpsmen to help out with staffing ... maybe. I wonder if that is actually true (that there is this surplus in the military) but up until now you have been telling me they are uneducated grunts and we need real board certified people to treat civilians. |
The only good thing politically...
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/2/21 11:51 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Sat, 02 Jan 2021 11:20:16 -0500, John wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 07:00:52 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: ...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- Only to be replaced with...? Biden will immediately place Covid controls on all the states, forcing them to adopt his, and only his, plan which will have the Covid problem resolved within at three months. By Feb 1, he will have vaccinated at least 150 million people. === That would be a fantastic accomplishment if he can actually do it. The army certainly knows how to vaccinate a large number of people in a short time - no needles required either. Wow. I don't see many of Herring's posts, but it is Biden's stated goal to have a million Americans vaccinated a day. I favor him doing whatever is necessary to achieve that goal. Further, I favor those who are inoculated being issued some sort of photo ID that indicates they have been, and that those who do not get inoculated and have an ID be kept out of public places, such as restaurants, sporting arenas, public pools, libraries, schools, et cetera, *unless* they have a serious, documented medical condition that precludes vaccination. We need a national plan, nationally implemented. The states are showing they do not have the wherewithal to get everyone inoculated. In the mid-1950s, when the Salk vaccine became available, every kid in New Haven went to the nearest public school for the shots, and I mean every kid. The inoculations were provided without charge, and those doing the injections were school nurses, doctors' office personnel, and hospital personnel, all of whom donated their time to help rid the city of new cases of polio. I've always believed in mandatory vaccinations and in the exclusion of kids from public schools who don't get vaccinated unless they have a serious medical condition that precludes it. Being "anti-vax" is not an acceptable reason. And how is Biden going to get a million a day vaccinated? The government is not making the vaccine, CDC did not develop the vaccine, when the pipeline fills up, it will not be because of who is President. You may try to,claim that, but you will be required to have proof that the President did accomplish anything to help,fill the pipeline. When the pipeline is filled, CVS, Walmart, .Costco, and grocery chains will do the vaccinations. |
The only good thing politically...
Justan " wrote:
On 1/2/21 12:05 PM, Bill wrote: Wayne B wrote: On Sat, 02 Jan 2021 11:20:16 -0500, John wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 07:00:52 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: ...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- Only to be replaced with...? Biden will immediately place Covid controls on all the states, forcing them to adopt his, and only his, plan which will have the Covid problem resolved within at three months. By Feb 1, he will have vaccinated at least 150 million people. === That would be a fantastic accomplishment if he can actually do it. The army certainly knows how to vaccinate a large number of people in a short time - no needles required either. So does cvs and some supermarket chains. Needles required. Those devices were relatively new when I was in. In order to boost our confidence, the corps man would periodically test the device by slicing a leather belt. And he would say something like, "This only happens if you move". I don’t know if they were new, but they got us in both arms at the same time in 1965. |
The only good thing politically...
|
The only good thing politically...
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 21:33:37 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/2/21 11:51 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Sat, 02 Jan 2021 11:20:16 -0500, John wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 07:00:52 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: ...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- Only to be replaced with...? Biden will immediately place Covid controls on all the states, forcing them to adopt his, and only his, plan which will have the Covid problem resolved within at three months. By Feb 1, he will have vaccinated at least 150 million people. === That would be a fantastic accomplishment if he can actually do it. The army certainly knows how to vaccinate a large number of people in a short time - no needles required either. Wow. I don't see many of Herring's posts, but it is Biden's stated goal to have a million Americans vaccinated a day. I favor him doing whatever is necessary to achieve that goal. Further, I favor those who are inoculated being issued some sort of photo ID that indicates they have been, and that those who do not get inoculated and have an ID be kept out of public places, such as restaurants, sporting arenas, public pools, libraries, schools, et cetera, *unless* they have a serious, documented medical condition that precludes vaccination. We need a national plan, nationally implemented. The states are showing they do not have the wherewithal to get everyone inoculated. In the mid-1950s, when the Salk vaccine became available, every kid in New Haven went to the nearest public school for the shots, and I mean every kid. The inoculations were provided without charge, and those doing the injections were school nurses, doctors' office personnel, and hospital personnel, all of whom donated their time to help rid the city of new cases of polio. I've always believed in mandatory vaccinations and in the exclusion of kids from public schools who don't get vaccinated unless they have a serious medical condition that precludes it. Being "anti-vax" is not an acceptable reason. And how is Biden going to get a million a day vaccinated? The government is not making the vaccine, CDC did not develop the vaccine, when the pipeline fills up, it will not be because of who is President. You may try to,claim that, but you will be required to have proof that the President did accomplish anything to help,fill the pipeline. When the pipeline is filled, CVS, Walmart, .Costco, and grocery chains will do the vaccinations. That is certainly the case here. We have the infrastructure to vaccinate people, either through the local governments or through private pharmacies. We just don't have the vaccine. In that "stand in line in the rain" event last week, each location had around 300 shots. They were out in a couple hours. We don't see the news covering the stand in line on a sunny day story. (It rained here exactly once in the last couple weeks). Now they are doing it by appointment like they should have been doing all along. I guess it is the government and they don't want to discriminate against people too stupid to be able to make an appointment. They will still take a certain number of walk ins. |
The only good thing politically...
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 21:33:38 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: Justan " wrote: On 1/2/21 12:05 PM, Bill wrote: Wayne B wrote: On Sat, 02 Jan 2021 11:20:16 -0500, John wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 07:00:52 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: ...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- Only to be replaced with...? Biden will immediately place Covid controls on all the states, forcing them to adopt his, and only his, plan which will have the Covid problem resolved within at three months. By Feb 1, he will have vaccinated at least 150 million people. === That would be a fantastic accomplishment if he can actually do it. The army certainly knows how to vaccinate a large number of people in a short time - no needles required either. So does cvs and some supermarket chains. Needles required. Those devices were relatively new when I was in. In order to boost our confidence, the corps man would periodically test the device by slicing a leather belt. And he would say something like, "This only happens if you move". I don’t know if they were new, but they got us in both arms at the same time in 1965. Same here. I don't think we did much more than freeze for the 2 seconds they were squeezing the triggers on the guns. The line stayed moving. I think they did the whole company (100 guys) in about 5 minutes. It was just part of a pretty busy day, getting uniforms, stenciling everything, packing your sea bag, learning how to make up a military bed and such. |
The only good thing politically...
wrote:
On Sat, 02 Jan 2021 16:39:18 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Sat, 02 Jan 2021 15:03:24 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 12:38:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/2/21 12:05 PM, Bill wrote: Wayne B wrote: On Sat, 02 Jan 2021 11:20:16 -0500, John wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 07:00:52 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: ...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- Only to be replaced with...? Biden will immediately place Covid controls on all the states, forcing them to adopt his, and only his, plan which will have the Covid problem resolved within at three months. By Feb 1, he will have vaccinated at least 150 million people. === That would be a fantastic accomplishment if he can actually do it. The army certainly knows how to vaccinate a large number of people in a short time - no needles required either. So does cvs and some supermarket chains. Needles required. Around here, at least two of the supermarket chains have full pharmacies and the pharmacist on duty does flu, shingles, and possibly other inoculations. They have been trained on how to inoculate. But they are not set up for doing a large number of inoculations a day. The armed forces have lots of trained personnel who can inoculate and there is no reason not to use them. Inoculating is not a posse comitatus issue. I am sure military personnel in this country would appreciate the ability to perform, if properly protected, a direct public service that would be greatly appreciated. They make up for it by having one or more of those places at virtually every big intersection. There are about 40 of them within 10 miles of me in Fumbuck Florida. They can certainly dispense this vaccine as fast as the manufacturers can produce it. If you are saying the military could spare medics and corpsmen to help out with staffing ... maybe. I wonder if that is actually true (that there is this surplus in the military) but up until now you have been telling me they are uneducated grunts and we need real board certified people to treat civilians. === When I was in the army reserve, circa late 1960s, medics were carefully selected and well trained. Don't tell me, convince Harry. My nieces kid (Tiffany) was a navy corpsman, working as a nurse in a couple of navy hospitals and on a carrier. She still had to go to nursing school to get her civilian ticket although it was mostly just money. She tested out of a lot of her courses but she still had to buy them. My friend was a medic for Marines in Vietnam. Seemed to be well trained, later an MD and Phd in bioengineering. But I guess he was too stupid to avoid the draft. Actually he was drafted in his senior year at university San Diego, as he did not take enough credits to get a deferment. Seems as if he did better than Harry, and actually served. His next 2 tours in Vietnam was as a Phantom driver. Retired as a 32 year Marine reservist officer also. |
The only good thing politically...
On 1/2/21 4:33 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/2/21 11:51 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Sat, 02 Jan 2021 11:20:16 -0500, John wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 07:00:52 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: ...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- Only to be replaced with...? Biden will immediately place Covid controls on all the states, forcing them to adopt his, and only his, plan which will have the Covid problem resolved within at three months. By Feb 1, he will have vaccinated at least 150 million people. === That would be a fantastic accomplishment if he can actually do it. The army certainly knows how to vaccinate a large number of people in a short time - no needles required either. Wow. I don't see many of Herring's posts, but it is Biden's stated goal to have a million Americans vaccinated a day. I favor him doing whatever is necessary to achieve that goal. Further, I favor those who are inoculated being issued some sort of photo ID that indicates they have been, and that those who do not get inoculated and have an ID be kept out of public places, such as restaurants, sporting arenas, public pools, libraries, schools, et cetera, *unless* they have a serious, documented medical condition that precludes vaccination. We need a national plan, nationally implemented. The states are showing they do not have the wherewithal to get everyone inoculated. In the mid-1950s, when the Salk vaccine became available, every kid in New Haven went to the nearest public school for the shots, and I mean every kid. The inoculations were provided without charge, and those doing the injections were school nurses, doctors' office personnel, and hospital personnel, all of whom donated their time to help rid the city of new cases of polio. I've always believed in mandatory vaccinations and in the exclusion of kids from public schools who don't get vaccinated unless they have a serious medical condition that precludes it. Being "anti-vax" is not an acceptable reason. And how is Biden going to get a million a day vaccinated? The government is not making the vaccine, CDC did not develop the vaccine, when the pipeline fills up, it will not be because of who is President. You may try to,claim that, but you will be required to have proof that the President did accomplish anything to help,fill the pipeline. When the pipeline is filled, CVS, Walmart, .Costco, and grocery chains will do the vaccinations. Your guy Trump claimed all sorts of credit for producing the vaccines, and you haven't whined about that bull**** yet. -- Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com, Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull, Witless, Insult-Tossing Trumpsters. |
The only good thing politically...
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/2/21 4:33 PM, Bill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/2/21 11:51 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Sat, 02 Jan 2021 11:20:16 -0500, John wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 07:00:52 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: ...that happened in this country in 2020 was the defeat of Donald Trump. -- Only to be replaced with...? Biden will immediately place Covid controls on all the states, forcing them to adopt his, and only his, plan which will have the Covid problem resolved within at three months. By Feb 1, he will have vaccinated at least 150 million people. === That would be a fantastic accomplishment if he can actually do it. The army certainly knows how to vaccinate a large number of people in a short time - no needles required either. Wow. I don't see many of Herring's posts, but it is Biden's stated goal to have a million Americans vaccinated a day. I favor him doing whatever is necessary to achieve that goal. Further, I favor those who are inoculated being issued some sort of photo ID that indicates they have been, and that those who do not get inoculated and have an ID be kept out of public places, such as restaurants, sporting arenas, public pools, libraries, schools, et cetera, *unless* they have a serious, documented medical condition that precludes vaccination. We need a national plan, nationally implemented. The states are showing they do not have the wherewithal to get everyone inoculated. In the mid-1950s, when the Salk vaccine became available, every kid in New Haven went to the nearest public school for the shots, and I mean every kid. The inoculations were provided without charge, and those doing the injections were school nurses, doctors' office personnel, and hospital personnel, all of whom donated their time to help rid the city of new cases of polio. I've always believed in mandatory vaccinations and in the exclusion of kids from public schools who don't get vaccinated unless they have a serious medical condition that precludes it. Being "anti-vax" is not an acceptable reason. And how is Biden going to get a million a day vaccinated? The government is not making the vaccine, CDC did not develop the vaccine, when the pipeline fills up, it will not be because of who is President. You may try to,claim that, but you will be required to have proof that the President did accomplish anything to help,fill the pipeline. When the pipeline is filled, CVS, Walmart, .Costco, and grocery chains will do the vaccinations. Your guy Trump claimed all sorts of credit for producing the vaccines, and you haven't whined about that bull**** yet. Well, they were developed under his watch. You blame anything bad during his term on him. Turnabout is fair play. |
| All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:04 PM. |
|
Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2014 BoatBanter.com