On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 09:06:20 -0800 (PST), "
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On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 11:32:42 AM UTC-5, John H wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 01:25:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
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Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing the
ducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get there
for a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipe
to a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines,
so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulous
invention.
Thanks for info. Never used 'em.

Sharkbite connectors are great. Just be prepared for some sticker shock when you buy them. Pricey!

Insurance cost ;-)

On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:32:02 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

justan wrote:
Bill Wrote in message:r
Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing
theducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get
therefor a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job.
Leaking pipeto a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still
dripping from lines,so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite
connectors. Fabulousinvention.

Sharkbite, PEX, and other relatively new plumbing materials are
good things to know about. I was thinking of using PVC to run air
compressor air lines around the perimeter of my garage until I
read some horror stories about that material and decided to use
PEX instead. I used a number of Sharkbite fittings but I had
trouble sealing one particular PEX to 1/2 NPT Sharkbite fitting.
in this case I used a Flair-it brand plastic fitting instead. It
screws together; no tools required.

I am doing copper lines.

PVC, CPVC and PEX are king here these days. Florida water seems to be
tough on copper. I really think it is electrical tho. Mine is not
connected to the street and single point connected to the grid. I
haven't had a problem. Places with city water get slammed worse than
well customers. Older homes with metal from the street seem OK too.
I think it is electrolysis.
Law suits were flying in Cape Coral a decade or two ago and nobody
really ever had an answer they were willing to admit.
Most re plumbs were done in plastic.

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On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:32:02 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

justan wrote:
Bill Wrote in message:r
Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing
theducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get
therefor a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job.
Leaking pipeto a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still
dripping from lines,so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite
connectors. Fabulousinvention.

Sharkbite, PEX, and other relatively new plumbing materials are
good things to know about. I was thinking of using PVC to run air
compressor air lines around the perimeter of my garage until I
read some horror stories about that material and decided to use
PEX instead. I used a number of Sharkbite fittings but I had
trouble sealing one particular PEX to 1/2 NPT Sharkbite fitting.
in this case I used a Flair-it brand plastic fitting instead. It
screws together; no tools required.

I am doing copper lines.

PVC, CPVC and PEX are king here these days. Florida water seems to be
tough on copper. I really think it is electrical tho. Mine is not
connected to the street and single point connected to the grid. I
haven't had a problem. Places with city water get slammed worse than
well customers. Older homes with metal from the street seem OK too.
I think it is electrolysis.
Law suits were flying in Cape Coral a decade or two ago and nobody
really ever had an answer they were willing to admit.
Most re plumbs were done in plastic.


We have Poly from the meter to the house. House used to be all crappy
galvanized. I understand when these homes were built early 1970’s they had
to get Korean galvanized as US was not making enough. When we had a dry
wood termite problem upstairs bathrooms, I changed most of the galvanized
out to copper. Couple places were impossible to change so used dielectric
unions and brass pipes to connect. One of the leaks was a badly corroded
galvanized pipe connected to the dielectric Union. Changed to brass
fittings.

On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 23:32:21 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:32:02 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

justan wrote:
Bill Wrote in message:r
Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing
theducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get
therefor a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job.
Leaking pipeto a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still
dripping from lines,so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite
connectors. Fabulousinvention.

Sharkbite, PEX, and other relatively new plumbing materials are
good things to know about. I was thinking of using PVC to run air
compressor air lines around the perimeter of my garage until I
read some horror stories about that material and decided to use
PEX instead. I used a number of Sharkbite fittings but I had
trouble sealing one particular PEX to 1/2 NPT Sharkbite fitting.
in this case I used a Flair-it brand plastic fitting instead. It
screws together; no tools required.

I am doing copper lines.

PVC, CPVC and PEX are king here these days. Florida water seems to be
tough on copper. I really think it is electrical tho. Mine is not
connected to the street and single point connected to the grid. I
haven't had a problem. Places with city water get slammed worse than
well customers. Older homes with metal from the street seem OK too.
I think it is electrolysis.
Law suits were flying in Cape Coral a decade or two ago and nobody
really ever had an answer they were willing to admit.
Most re plumbs were done in plastic.

===

We had to get our place replumbed in plastic a few years back after
developing a series of pin hole leaks in the original copper. The
theory is that the Cape's RO water lacks minerals (TDS) so that over
time it tries to leach out impurities in the copper.

https://4perfec****er.com/blog/reverse-osmosis-and-copper-pipes/

On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 2:32:05 PM UTC-5, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 11:32:42 AM UTC-5, John H wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 01:25:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing the
ducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get there
for a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipe
to a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines,
so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulous
invention.
Thanks for info. Never used 'em.

Sharkbite connectors are great. Just be prepared for some sticker shock
when you buy them. Pricey!

Ended up a lot cheaper than the $180 an hour plumber.

True. Our kitchen remodel included some plumbing work. Since I had hired a contractor for the job (a total rip-out down to sheetrock), a plumber was involved. He used sharkbite connectors to join PEX to the existing PVC.

On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 05:49:21 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:32:02 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

justan wrote:
Bill Wrote in message:r
Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing
theducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get
therefor a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job.
Leaking pipeto a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still
dripping from lines,so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite
connectors. Fabulousinvention.

Sharkbite, PEX, and other relatively new plumbing materials are
good things to know about. I was thinking of using PVC to run air
compressor air lines around the perimeter of my garage until I
read some horror stories about that material and decided to use
PEX instead. I used a number of Sharkbite fittings but I had
trouble sealing one particular PEX to 1/2 NPT Sharkbite fitting.
in this case I used a Flair-it brand plastic fitting instead. It
screws together; no tools required.

I am doing copper lines.

PVC, CPVC and PEX are king here these days. Florida water seems to be
tough on copper. I really think it is electrical tho. Mine is not
connected to the street and single point connected to the grid. I
haven't had a problem. Places with city water get slammed worse than
well customers. Older homes with metal from the street seem OK too.
I think it is electrolysis.
Law suits were flying in Cape Coral a decade or two ago and nobody
really ever had an answer they were willing to admit.
Most re plumbs were done in plastic.


We have Poly from the meter to the house. House used to be all crappy
galvanized. I understand when these homes were built early 1970’s they had
to get Korean galvanized as US was not making enough. When we had a dry
wood termite problem upstairs bathrooms, I changed most of the galvanized
out to copper. Couple places were impossible to change so used dielectric
unions and brass pipes to connect. One of the leaks was a badly corroded
galvanized pipe connected to the dielectric Union. Changed to brass
fittings.

I am surprised anyone was still using galvanized for plumbing in the
70s. My house in Md built in 53-54 was copper. It also had grounded
Romex but used NEMA 1-15 receptacles. The boxes were grounded.

On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 00:57:34 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 23:32:21 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:32:02 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

justan wrote:
Bill Wrote in message:r
Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing
theducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get
therefor a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job.
Leaking pipeto a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still
dripping from lines,so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite
connectors. Fabulousinvention.

Sharkbite, PEX, and other relatively new plumbing materials are
good things to know about. I was thinking of using PVC to run air
compressor air lines around the perimeter of my garage until I
read some horror stories about that material and decided to use
PEX instead. I used a number of Sharkbite fittings but I had
trouble sealing one particular PEX to 1/2 NPT Sharkbite fitting.
in this case I used a Flair-it brand plastic fitting instead. It
screws together; no tools required.

I am doing copper lines.

PVC, CPVC and PEX are king here these days. Florida water seems to be
tough on copper. I really think it is electrical tho. Mine is not
connected to the street and single point connected to the grid. I
haven't had a problem. Places with city water get slammed worse than
well customers. Older homes with metal from the street seem OK too.
I think it is electrolysis.
Law suits were flying in Cape Coral a decade or two ago and nobody
really ever had an answer they were willing to admit.
Most re plumbs were done in plastic.

===

We had to get our place replumbed in plastic a few years back after
developing a series of pin hole leaks in the original copper. The
theory is that the Cape's RO water lacks minerals (TDS) so that over
time it tries to leach out impurities in the copper.

https://4perfec****er.com/blog/reverse-osmosis-and-copper-pipes/

That was certainly one of the theories. I am not sure anyone had a
definitive answer since older homes with copper pipe were OK.
It was the electrical guys (IAEI) who theorized the electrolysis.

On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 00:57:34 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 23:32:21 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:32:02 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

justan wrote:
Bill Wrote in message:r
Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing
theducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get
therefor a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job.
Leaking pipeto a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still
dripping from lines,so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite
connectors. Fabulousinvention.

Sharkbite, PEX, and other relatively new plumbing materials are
good things to know about. I was thinking of using PVC to run air
compressor air lines around the perimeter of my garage until I
read some horror stories about that material and decided to use
PEX instead. I used a number of Sharkbite fittings but I had
trouble sealing one particular PEX to 1/2 NPT Sharkbite fitting.
in this case I used a Flair-it brand plastic fitting instead. It
screws together; no tools required.

I am doing copper lines.

PVC, CPVC and PEX are king here these days. Florida water seems to be
tough on copper. I really think it is electrical tho. Mine is not
connected to the street and single point connected to the grid. I
haven't had a problem. Places with city water get slammed worse than
well customers. Older homes with metal from the street seem OK too.
I think it is electrolysis.
Law suits were flying in Cape Coral a decade or two ago and nobody
really ever had an answer they were willing to admit.
Most re plumbs were done in plastic.

===

We had to get our place replumbed in plastic a few years back after
developing a series of pin hole leaks in the original copper. The
theory is that the Cape's RO water lacks minerals (TDS) so that over
time it tries to leach out impurities in the copper.

https://4perfec****er.com/blog/reverse-osmosis-and-copper-pipes/

We had a pin hole leak in a line over the kitchen cabinets a while back. Plumber
blamed copper from China. Said a small imperfection in the pipe can cause a
buildup of minerals and eventually eat through the copper. Said it would start
as a small drip taking a long time to drop. The leak could have started years
before I noticed the wet sheet rock in the bathroom adjoining the kitchen.

Cost USAA over $26,000. Plumber cost me $100 to fix the leak.
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On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 09:05:53 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:Bill Wrote in message:r Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing theducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get therefor a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipeto a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines,so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulousinvention.Sharkbite, PEX, and other relatively new plumbing materials are good things to know about. I was thinking of using PVC to run air compressor air lines around the perimeter of my garage until I read some horror stories about that material and decided to use PEX instead. I used a number of Sharkbite fittings but I had trouble sealing one particular PEX to 1/2 NPT Sharkbite fitting. in this case I used a Flair-it brand plastic fitting instead. It screws together; no tools required.Maybe I build for the next millennium but my shop air is running ingalvanized, gas rated pipe. (Gas rated only means the inside is lesslikely to flake off). That is also what they use for Nat Gas andPropane if it isn't plastic or CSST. Black iron rusts up here.

My camper is all PEX and my house is all CPVC. I found a 100 ft.
roll of white Sharkbite (same as PEX) at Lowes. Installation was
quick, easy, and cheap. Pressure rated at 200 psi. will split
rather than shatter. I have not projected mu needs into the next
millenium. I also Remember the sage investment advice given to
Benjamin Braddock in 1967.
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Wayne B Wrote in message:r
On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 23:32:21 -0500, wrote:On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:32:02 -0000 (UTC), wrote:justan wrote: Bill Wrote in message:r Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing theducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could not get therefor a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the job. Leaking pipeto a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water still dripping from lines,so near impossible to solder. Used Sharkbite connectors. Fabulousinvention. Sharkbite, PEX, and other relatively new plumbing materials are good things to know about. I was thinking of using PVC to run air compressor air lines around the perimeter of my garage until I read some horror stories about that material and decided to use PEX instead. I used a number of Sharkbite fittings but I had trouble sealing one particular PEX to 1/2 NPT Sharkbite fitting. in this case I used a Flair-it brand plastic fitting instead. It screws together; no tools required.I am doing copper lines.PVC, CPVC and PEX are king here these days. Florida water seems to betough on copper. I really think it is electrical tho. Mine is notconnected to the street and single point connected to the grid. Ihaven't had a problem. Places with city water get slammed worse thanwell customers. Older homes with metal from the street seem OK too.I think it is electrolysis.Law suits were flying in Cape Coral a decade or two ago and nobodyreally ever had an answer they were willing to admit. Most re plumbs were done in plastic.===We had to get our place replumbed in plastic a few years back afterdeveloping a series of pin hole leaks in the original copper. Thetheory is that the Cape's RO water lacks minerals (TDS) so that overtime it tries to leach out impurities in the copper.https://4perfec****er.com/blog/reverse-osmosis-and-copper-pipes/

That RO fact is known now and devices have been designed to add
TDS into water. Also Chlorine is known to be harmful to plastic
pipe. Do you have a salt Sanitizer system in your
pool?


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