On 2/17/21 12:29 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 20:09:12 -0500, John wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 17:11:56 -0500, John wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 10:29:00 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/16/21 10:15 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.


Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved.

===

The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.


From Newsweek:

A new report highlights the hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths
in the U.S. under former President Donald Trump, noting that some 40
percent of COVID-19 pandemic deaths in 2020 would have been averted if
America's mortality rate was equivalent to other wealthy peer nations.

The report—published Thursday in one of the world's oldest and
best-known medical journals The Lancet—explains that even before the
pandemic, the U.S. saw 461,000 unnecessary deaths in 2018 when compared
to the death rates in other G7 nations (Canada, France, Germany, Italy,
Japan and the United Kingdom). Comparing the U.S. COVID-19 mortality
rate to this peer group, the U.S. would have seen 40 percent fewer
deaths in 2020 if its mortality rate was comparable.

"The global COVID-19 pandemic has had a disproportionate effect on the
USA, with more than 26 million diagnosed cases and over 450000 deaths as
of early February, 2021, about 40% of which could have been averted had
the U.S. death rate mirrored the weighted average of the other G7
nations," the report explains.

"Many of the cases and deaths were avoidable. Instead of galvanizing the
US populace to fight the pandemic, President Trump publicly dismissed
its threat (despite privately acknowledging it), discouraged action as
infection spread, and eschewed international cooperation," it continues.

Here's where we fall. Cherry-picking a few countries would make us look pretty
damn good.

'Weighted Average'? Show me.

The link:

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...=homeAdvegas1?

Scroll down and then click on Death/1M pop.

When you compare the absolute number of deaths to a country the size
of Wyoming with the population of Florida the US looks bad but look at
the numbers per 100,000 people

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...n-inhabitants/


Still trying to make Trump look better, eh?

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On 2/17/21 12:16 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 16:31:41 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:26:50 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 11:12:40 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:05:51 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:15:48 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.


Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved.
===

The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.

Wasn't that the same time Fauci was saying that the US had nothing to worry about?
===

Do you have a cite for that? I don't remember it.

"On Jan. 21 - the day the first COVID-19 case in the U.S. was confirmed - Fauci appeared on conservative Newsmax TV. “Bottom line, we don’t have to worry about this one, right?� asked Greg Kelly, the host.

Fauci said, “Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the kind of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be
worried about.�

===

Parsing his words, it seems like there's a bit of governmental double
speak going on. And of course it was still early in the epidemic
before people started dropping like flies in the north east.

He still thought more of the politically correct thing to say than
anything scientific but that is not surprising, he is a political
patronage worker. He serves at the pleasure of the HHS secretary. He
is not a civil service employee.

And you don't respect civil service workers, either, right?

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On 2/17/21 6:35 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/17/21 12:16 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 16:31:41 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:26:50 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 11:12:40 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:05:51 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:15:48 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point


Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest
level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily
reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday,
according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938
a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the
morning.


Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No
telling how many lives that may have saved.
===

The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still
denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.

Wasn't that the same time Fauci was saying that the US had nothing
to worry about?
===

Do you have a cite for that? I don't remember it.

"On Jan. 21 - the day the first COVID-19 case in the U.S. was
confirmed - Fauci appeared on conservative Newsmax TV. “Bottom line,
we don’t have to worry about this one, right?� asked Greg Kelly, the
host.

Fauci said, “Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the
kind of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and
the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a
major threat to the people of the United States and this is not
something that the citizens of the United States right now should be
worried about.�

===

Parsing his words, it seems like there's a bit of governmental double
speak going on.Â* And of course it was still early in the epidemic
before people started dropping like flies in the north east.

He still thought more of the politically correct thing to say than
anything scientific but that is not surprising, he is a political
patronage worker. He serves at the pleasure of the HHS secretary. He
is not a civil service employee.

And you don't respect civil service workers, either, right?


Oh, let's not forget that info on COVID and the vaccines is a moving
target. An actual scientist takes into account information at hand and
then adjusts it if the info at hand changes. Obviously, our knowledge of
COVID and Fauci's knowledge of it has evolved with time.

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Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
On 2/17/21 12:29 AM, wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 20:09:12 -0500, John wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 17:11:56 -0500, John wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 10:29:00 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/16/21 10:15 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote: https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported deaths declined sharply from a recent spike. There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning. Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved. === The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to his incumbency which he was acutely aware of. From Newsweek: A new report highlights the hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths in the U.S. under former President Donald Trump, noting that some 40 percent of COVID-19 pandemic deaths in 2020 would have been averted if America's mortality rate was equivalent to other wealthy peer nations. The report?published Thursday in one of the world's oldest and best-known medical journals The Lancet?explains that even before the pandemic, the U.S. saw 461,000 unnecessary deaths in 2018 when compared to the death rates in other G7 nations (Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan and the United Kingdom). Comparing the U.S. COVID-19 mortality rate to this peer group, the U.S. would have seen 40 percent fewer deaths in 2020 if its mortality rate was comparable. "The global COVID-19 pandemic has had a disproportionate effect on the USA, with more than 26 million diagnosed cases and over 450000 deaths as of early February, 2021, about 40% of which could have been averted had the U.S. death rate mirrored the weighted average of the other G7 nations," the report explains. "Many of the cases and deaths were avoidable. Instead of galvanizing the US populace to fight the pandemic, President Trump publicly dismissed its threat (despite privately acknowledging it), discouraged action as infection spread, and eschewed international cooperation," it continues. Here's where we fall. Cherry-picking a few countries would make us look pretty damn good. 'Weighted Average'? Show me. The link: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?utm_campaign=homeAdvegas1? Scroll down and then click on Death/1M pop. When you compare the absolute number of deaths to a country the size of Wyoming with the population of Florida the US looks bad but look at the numbers per 100,000 people https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/ Still trying to make Trump look better, eh?-- Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com,Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, AMDX, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull,Witless, Insult-Tossing Trumpsters. If you are on this list, I don't seemost of your posts and I don't read any of them.

I don't know about that but he sure makes Fat Harry look like a
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Wayne B Wrote in message:r
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 20:04:36 -0500, John wrote:On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 16:31:41 -0500, Wayne B wrote:On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:26:50 -0800 (PST), wrote:On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 11:12:40 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:05:51 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:15:48 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote: https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported deaths declined sharply from a recent spike. There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning. Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved. === The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to his incumbency which he was acutely aware of. Wasn't that the same time Fauci was saying that the US had nothing to worry about? === Do you have a cite for that? I don't remember it."On Jan. 21 - the day the first COVID-19 case in the U.S. was confirmed - Fauci appeared on conservative Newsmax TV. “Bottom line, we don’t have to worry about this one, right?” asked Greg Kelly, the host.Fauci said, “Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the kind of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.”===Parsing his words, it seems like there's a bit of governmental doublespeak going on. And of course it was still early in the epidemicbefore people started dropping like flies in the north east.Does Trump get your same consideration?Hee, hee.===Hee, hee yourself John. What kind of consideration do you think heshould get? A cell right next to Bernie Madoff would be myrecommendation. They're both con men after all. Bernie got away withit for a long time but his luck finally ran out. The same thing mayhappen with Trump. Stay tuned and pass the popcorn.

Your obsession with Trump is unnatural but somewhat
understandable. Have you been paying attention to the idiot in
charge. His political polish might appeal to you but he's
destroying the Country even more agressively than his mentor did.









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On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 00:04:43 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 20:04:36 -0500, John wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 16:31:41 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:26:50 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 11:12:40 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:05:51 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:15:48 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.


Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved.
===

The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.

Wasn't that the same time Fauci was saying that the US had nothing to worry about?
===

Do you have a cite for that? I don't remember it.

"On Jan. 21 - the day the first COVID-19 case in the U.S. was confirmed - Fauci appeared on conservative Newsmax TV. “Bottom line, we don’t have to worry about this one, right?” asked Greg Kelly, the host.

Fauci said, “Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the kind of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.”

===

Parsing his words, it seems like there's a bit of governmental double
speak going on. And of course it was still early in the epidemic
before people started dropping like flies in the north east.

Does Trump get your same consideration?

Hee, hee.

===

Hee, hee yourself John. What kind of consideration do you think he
should get? A cell right next to Bernie Madoff would be my
recommendation. They're both con men after all. Bernie got away with
it for a long time but his luck finally ran out. The same thing may
happen with Trump. Stay tuned and pass the popcorn.

The same consideration you gave Fauci!
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On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 07:13:26 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/17/21 6:35 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/17/21 12:16 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 16:31:41 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:26:50 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 11:12:40 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:05:51 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:15:48 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point


Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest
level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily
reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday,
according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938
a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the
morning.


Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No
telling how many lives that may have saved.
===

The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still
denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.

Wasn't that the same time Fauci was saying that the US had nothing
to worry about?
===

Do you have a cite for that? I don't remember it.

"On Jan. 21 - the day the first COVID-19 case in the U.S. was
confirmed - Fauci appeared on conservative Newsmax TV. “Bottom line,
we don’t have to worry about this one, right?” asked Greg Kelly, the
host.

Fauci said, “Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the
kind of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and
the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a
major threat to the people of the United States and this is not
something that the citizens of the United States right now should be
worried about.”

===

Parsing his words, it seems like there's a bit of governmental double
speak going on.* And of course it was still early in the epidemic
before people started dropping like flies in the north east.

He still thought more of the politically correct thing to say than
anything scientific but that is not surprising, he is a political
patronage worker. He serves at the pleasure of the HHS secretary. He
is not a civil service employee.

And you don't respect civil service workers, either, right?


Oh, let's not forget that info on COVID and the vaccines is a moving
target. An actual scientist takes into account information at hand and
then adjusts it if the info at hand changes. Obviously, our knowledge of
COVID and Fauci's knowledge of it has evolved with time.

As did Trump's, yet he does not get the slack Fauci gets. You're hypocrites.
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John Wrote in message:r
On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 00:04:43 -0500, Wayne B wrote:On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 20:04:36 -0500, John wrote:On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 16:31:41 -0500, Wayne B wrote:On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:26:50 -0800 (PST), wrote:On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 11:12:40 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:05:51 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:15:48 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote: https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported deaths declined sharply from a recent spike. There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning. Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved. === The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to his incumbency which he was acutely aware of. Wasn't that the same time Fauci was saying that the US had nothing to worry about? === Do you have a cite for that? I don't remember it."On Jan. 21 - the day the first COVID-19 case in the U.S. was confirmed - Fauci appeared on conservative Newsmax TV. “Bottom line, we don’t have to worry about this one, right?” asked Greg Kelly, the host.Fauci said, “Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the kind of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.”===Parsing his words, it seems like there's a bit of governmental doublespeak going on. And of course it was still early in the epidemicbefore people started dropping like flies in the north east.Does Trump get your same consideration?Hee, hee.===Hee, hee yourself John. What kind of consideration do you think heshould get? A cell right next to Bernie Madoff would be myrecommendation. They're both con men after all. Bernie got away withit for a long time but his luck finally ran out. The same thing mayhappen with Trump. Stay tuned and pass the popcorn.The same consideration you gave Fauci!--Freedom Isn't Free!

He hasn't even been acused of anything yet. Wayne is just one
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On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 00:04:43 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 20:04:36 -0500, John wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 16:31:41 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:26:50 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 11:12:40 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:05:51 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:15:48 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.


Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved.
===

The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.

Wasn't that the same time Fauci was saying that the US had nothing to worry about?
===

Do you have a cite for that? I don't remember it.

"On Jan. 21 - the day the first COVID-19 case in the U.S. was confirmed - Fauci appeared on conservative Newsmax TV. “Bottom line, we don’t have to worry about this one, right?� asked Greg Kelly, the host.

Fauci said, “Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the kind of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be
worried about.�

===

Parsing his words, it seems like there's a bit of governmental double
speak going on. And of course it was still early in the epidemic
before people started dropping like flies in the north east.

Does Trump get your same consideration?

Hee, hee.

===

Hee, hee yourself John. What kind of consideration do you think he
should get? A cell right next to Bernie Madoff would be my
recommendation. They're both con men after all. Bernie got away with
it for a long time but his luck finally ran out. The same thing may
happen with Trump. Stay tuned and pass the popcorn.

I guess a subtle difference is Madoff scammed regular people,
thousands of them and Trump just scammed a few banks who should know
better. If he is guilty, charge him in court. I am OK with that. It is
how the system works but I bet any successful prosecutions will be in
civil or tax court, not criminal court.
Basically only money. The question is whether he still has the ability
to make any. I think he is less than broke but I have felt that way
since the 70s when I said my real net worth is probably higher than
his and I am just a "multi thousandaire". ;-)
It always amazed me people would still lend him money and watch him
living large on those loans.
At a certain point I just have to tell those venture capitalists
"Stupid is as stupid does" and I don't really have that much sympathy
for them. They must believe they will get their money back somehow.

Carl Ichan has the right idea. Pick up his distressed properties at
pennies on the dollar, bust them up and roll them over or develop them
as an actual money maker. I still get my check from Carl every
quarter.

On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 06:33:36 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/17/21 12:29 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 20:09:12 -0500, John wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 17:11:56 -0500, John wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 10:29:00 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/16/21 10:15 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.


Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved.

===

The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.


From Newsweek:

A new report highlights the hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths
in the U.S. under former President Donald Trump, noting that some 40
percent of COVID-19 pandemic deaths in 2020 would have been averted if
America's mortality rate was equivalent to other wealthy peer nations.

The report—published Thursday in one of the world's oldest and
best-known medical journals The Lancet—explains that even before the
pandemic, the U.S. saw 461,000 unnecessary deaths in 2018 when compared
to the death rates in other G7 nations (Canada, France, Germany, Italy,
Japan and the United Kingdom). Comparing the U.S. COVID-19 mortality
rate to this peer group, the U.S. would have seen 40 percent fewer
deaths in 2020 if its mortality rate was comparable.

"The global COVID-19 pandemic has had a disproportionate effect on the
USA, with more than 26 million diagnosed cases and over 450000 deaths as
of early February, 2021, about 40% of which could have been averted had
the U.S. death rate mirrored the weighted average of the other G7
nations," the report explains.

"Many of the cases and deaths were avoidable. Instead of galvanizing the
US populace to fight the pandemic, President Trump publicly dismissed
its threat (despite privately acknowledging it), discouraged action as
infection spread, and eschewed international cooperation," it continues.

Here's where we fall. Cherry-picking a few countries would make us look pretty
damn good.

'Weighted Average'? Show me.

The link:

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...=homeAdvegas1?

Scroll down and then click on Death/1M pop.

When you compare the absolute number of deaths to a country the size
of Wyoming with the population of Florida the US looks bad but look at
the numbers per 100,000 people

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...n-inhabitants/


Still trying to make Trump look better, eh?

Don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant. Carry on.

BTW NBC Evening News even carried the story that DeSantis is doing
better with his "open" Florida policy in Covid numbers than Newsom and
his lockdown.
They seemed to be confused by it but they did run it.
That is in spite of the influx of snowbirds from hot spots all over
the north and places like UK.