On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 06:35:00 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/17/21 12:16 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 16:31:41 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:26:50 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 11:12:40 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:05:51 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:15:48 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point

Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning.


Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved.
===

The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.

Wasn't that the same time Fauci was saying that the US had nothing to worry about?
===

Do you have a cite for that? I don't remember it.

"On Jan. 21 - the day the first COVID-19 case in the U.S. was confirmed - Fauci appeared on conservative Newsmax TV. “Bottom line, we don’t have to worry about this one, right?� asked Greg Kelly, the host.

Fauci said, “Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the kind of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should
be
worried about.�

===

Parsing his words, it seems like there's a bit of governmental double
speak going on. And of course it was still early in the epidemic
before people started dropping like flies in the north east.

He still thought more of the politically correct thing to say than
anything scientific but that is not surprising, he is a political
patronage worker. He serves at the pleasure of the HHS secretary. He
is not a civil service employee.

And you don't respect civil service workers, either, right?

I understand they are pretty much fireproof and Fauci isn't hence he
needs to toe the party line or find someone else who will pay him more
than $400k to be a spokesperson.

On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 07:13:26 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/17/21 6:35 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/17/21 12:16 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 16:31:41 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:26:50 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 11:12:40 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:05:51 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:15:48 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point


Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest
level
in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily
reported
deaths declined sharply from a recent spike.

There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday,
according
to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938
a day
earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published
early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the
morning.


Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No
telling how many lives that may have saved.
===

The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still
denying
that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to
his incumbency which he was acutely aware of.

Wasn't that the same time Fauci was saying that the US had nothing
to worry about?
===

Do you have a cite for that? I don't remember it.

"On Jan. 21 - the day the first COVID-19 case in the U.S. was
confirmed - Fauci appeared on conservative Newsmax TV. “Bottom line,
we don’t have to worry about this one, right?� asked Greg Kelly, the
host.

Fauci said, “Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the
kind of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and
the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a
major threat to the people of the United States and this is not
something that the citizens of the United States right now should be
worried about.�

===

Parsing his words, it seems like there's a bit of governmental double
speak going on.Â* And of course it was still early in the epidemic
before people started dropping like flies in the north east.

He still thought more of the politically correct thing to say than
anything scientific but that is not surprising, he is a political
patronage worker. He serves at the pleasure of the HHS secretary. He
is not a civil service employee.

And you don't respect civil service workers, either, right?


Oh, let's not forget that info on COVID and the vaccines is a moving
target. An actual scientist takes into account information at hand and
then adjusts it if the info at hand changes. Obviously, our knowledge of
COVID and Fauci's knowledge of it has evolved with time.

He presents like everything is a fact and not that they still don't
know the truth. That is not science, it is entertainment. You might as
watch Dr Oz.

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
On 2/17/21 12:29 AM, wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 20:09:12 -0500, John wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 17:11:56 -0500, John wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 10:29:00 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/16/21 10:15 AM, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote: https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported deaths declined sharply from a recent spike. There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning. Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved. === The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to his incumbency which he was acutely aware of. From Newsweek: A new report highlights the hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths in the U.S. under former President Donald Trump, noting that some 40 percent of COVID-19 pandemic deaths in 2020 would have been averted if America's mortality rate was equivalent to other wealthy peer nations. The report?published Thursday in one of the world's oldest and best-known medical journals The Lancet?explains that even before the pandemic, the U.S. saw 461,000 unnecessary deaths in 2018 when compared to the death rates in other G7 nations (Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan and the United Kingdom). Comparing the U.S. COVID-19 mortality rate to this peer group, the U.S. would have seen 40 percent fewer deaths in 2020 if its mortality rate was comparable. "The global COVID-19 pandemic has had a disproportionate effect on the USA, with more than 26 million diagnosed cases and over 450000 deaths as of early February, 2021, about 40% of which could have been averted had the U.S. death rate mirrored the weighted average of the other G7 nations," the report explains. "Many of the cases and deaths were avoidable. Instead of galvanizing the US populace to fight the pandemic, President Trump publicly dismissed its threat (despite privately acknowledging it), discouraged action as infection spread, and eschewed international cooperation," it continues. Here's where we fall. Cherry-picking a few countries would make us look pretty damn good. 'Weighted Average'? Show me. The link: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?utm_campaign=homeAdvegas1? Scroll down and then click on Death/1M pop. When you compare the absolute number of deaths to a country the size of Wyoming with the population of Florida the US looks bad but look at the numbers per 100,000 people https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/ Still trying to make Trump look better, eh?-- Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com,Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, AMDX, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull,Witless, Insult-Tossing Trumpsters. If you are on this list, I don't seemost of your posts and I don't read any of them.

Trump is better. There are many things he acomplished even while
the snakes were biting his ankles. He isn't perfect, but hey, who
is? Joey has trouble remembering his name. I can't think of
anything Joey has done right since he was annointed.
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On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 00:04:43 -0500, Wayne wrote:On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 20:04:36 -0500, John wrote:On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 16:31:41 -0500, Wayne B wrote:On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:26:50 -0800 (PST), wrote:On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 11:12:40 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:05:51 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:15:48 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote: https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported deaths declined sharply from a recent spike. There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning. Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved. === The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to his incumbency which he was acutely aware of. Wasn't that the same time Fauci was saying that the US had nothing to worry about? === Do you have a cite for that? I don't remember it."On Jan. 21 - the day the first COVID-19 case in the U.S. was confirmed - Fauci appeared on conservative Newsmax TV. ?Bottom line, we don?t have to worry about this one, right?? asked Greg Kelly, the host.Fauci said, ?Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the kind of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should beworried about.?===Parsing his words, it seems like there's a bit of governmental doublespeak going on. And of course it was still early in the epidemicbefore people started dropping like flies in the north east.Does Trump get your same consideration?Hee, hee.===Hee, hee yourself John. What kind of consideration do you think heshould get? A cell right next to Bernie Madoff would be myrecommendation. They're both con men after all. Bernie got away withit for a long time but his luck finally ran out. The same thing mayhappen with Trump. Stay tuned and pass the popcorn.I guess a subtle difference is Madoff scammed regular people,thousands of them and Trump just scammed a few banks who should knowbetter. If he is guilty, charge him in court. I am OK with that. It ishow the system works but I bet any successful prosecutions will be incivil or tax court, not criminal court. Basically only money. The question is whether he still has the abilityto make any. I think he is less than broke but I have felt that waysince the 70s when I said my real net worth is probably higher thanhis and I am just a "multi thousandaire". ;-) It always amazed me people would still lend him money and watch himliving large on those loans.At a certain point I just have to tell those venture capitalists"Stupid is as stupid does" and I don't really have that much sympathyfor them. They must believe they will get their money back somehow. Carl Ichan has the right idea. Pick up his distressed properties atpennies on the dollar, bust them up and roll them over or develop themas an actual money maker. I still get my check from Carl everyquarter.

Is Carl the guy who owns the AC casino that was just demolished?
I can't imagine that property being worth much with a pile of
rubble on it.
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On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 07:13:26 -0500, Keyser wrote:On 2/17/21 6:35 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/17/21 12:16 AM, wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 16:31:41 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:26:50 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 11:12:40 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:05:51 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:15:48 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote: https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported deaths declined sharply from a recent spike. There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning. Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved. === The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to his incumbency which he was acutely aware of. Wasn't that the same time Fauci was saying that the US had nothing to worry about? === Do you have a cite for that? I don't remember it. "On Jan. 21 - the day the first COVID-19 case in the U.S. was confirmed - Fauci appeared on conservative Newsmax TV. ?Bottom line, we don?t have to worry about this one, right?? asked Greg Kelly, the host. Fauci said, ?Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the kind of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.? === Parsing his words, it seems like there's a bit of governmental double speak going on. And of course it was still early in the epidemic before people started dropping like flies in the north east. He still thought more of the politically correct thing to say than anything scientific but that is not surprising, he is a political patronage worker. He serves at the pleasure of the HHS secretary. He is not a civil service employee. And you don't respect civil service workers, either, right? Oh, let's not forget that info on COVID and the vaccines is a moving target. An actual scientist takes into account information at hand and then adjusts it if the info at hand changes. Obviously, our knowledge of COVID and Fauci's knowledge of it has evolved with time.He presents like everything is a fact and not that they still don'tknow the truth. That is not science, it is entertainment. You might aswatch Dr Oz.
Fauci is just guessing. He's as reliable as CNN. My guess is
containing this flu will be as likrely as containing the
thousands of other flu varients floating around. Effective
treatment seems to me to be the best hope of survival.
The good news from Biden is he thinks we might be able to stop
wearing masks in a year or two.

Rumor is that Dr. Oz will guest host on Jeopardy.
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On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 06:35:00 -0500, Keyser wrote:On 2/17/21 12:16 AM, wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 16:31:41 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:26:50 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 11:12:40 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:05:51 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:15:48 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote: https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level in nearly four months over Presidents Day weekend, and daily reported deaths declined sharply from a recent spike. There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning. Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved. === The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to his incumbency which he was acutely aware of. Wasn't that the same time Fauci was saying that the US had nothing to worry about? === Do you have a cite for that? I don't remember it. "On Jan. 21 - the day the first COVID-19 case in the U.S. was confirmed - Fauci appeared on conservative Newsmax TV. ?Bottom line, we don?t have to worry about this one, right?? asked Greg Kelly, the host. Fauci said, ?Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the kind of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now shouldbe worried about.? === Parsing his words, it seems like there's a bit of governmental double speak going on. And of course it was still early in the epidemic before people started dropping like flies in the north east. He still thought more of the politically correct thing to say than anything scientific but that is not surprising, he is a political patronage worker. He serves at the pleasure of the HHS secretary. He is not a civil service employee. And you don't respect civil service workers, either, right?I understand they are pretty much fireproof and Fauci isn't hence heneeds to toe the party line or find someone else who will pay him morethan $400k to be a spokesperson.

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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 08:08:34 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

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On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 00:04:43 -0500, Wayne wrote:On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 20:04:36 -0500, John wrote:On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 16:31:41 -0500, Wayne B wrote:On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:26:50 -0800 (PST), wrote:On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 11:12:40 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:05:51 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:15:48 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote: https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level in nearly four months over Presidents
Day
weekend, and daily reported deaths declined sharply from a recent spike. There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning. Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved. === The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to his incumbency which he was acutely aware of. Wasn't that the same time Fauci was saying that the US had nothing to worry about? === Do you have a cite for that? I don't remember it."On Jan. 21 - the day the first
COVID-19 case in the U.S. was confirmed - Fauci appeared on conservative Newsmax TV. ?Bottom line, we don?t have to worry about this one, right?? asked Greg Kelly, the host.Fauci said, ?Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the kind of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should beworried about.?===Parsing his words, it seems like there's a bit of governmental doublespeak going on. And of course it was still early in the epidemicbefore people started dropping like flies in the north east.Does Trump get your same consideration?Hee, hee.===Hee, hee yourself John. What kind of consideration do you think heshould get? A cell right next to Bernie Madoff would be myrecommendation. They're both con men after all. Bernie got away
withit for a long time but his luck finally ran out. The same thing mayhappen with Trump. Stay tuned and pass the popcorn.I guess a subtle difference is Madoff scammed regular people,thousands of them and Trump just scammed a few banks who should knowbetter. If he is guilty, charge him in court. I am OK with that. It ishow the system works but I bet any successful prosecutions will be incivil or tax court, not criminal court. Basically only money. The question is whether he still has the abilityto make any. I think he is less than broke but I have felt that waysince the 70s when I said my real net worth is probably higher thanhis and I am just a "multi thousandaire". ;-) It always amazed me people would still lend him money and watch himliving large on those loans.At a certain point I just have to tell those venture capitalists"Stupid is as stupid does" and I don't really have that much sympathyfor them. They must believe they will get their money back somehow. Carl Ichan has
the right idea. Pick up his distressed properties atpennies on the dollar, bust them up and roll them over or develop themas an actual money maker. I still get my check from Carl everyquarter.

Is Carl the guy who owns the AC casino that was just demolished?
I can't imagine that property being worth much with a pile of
rubble on it.

===

The rubble will be sold off as scrap steel and hard fill, won't take
long at all. The site itself is in a prime location right across the
boardwalk from the ocean.

On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 08:08:34 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Wrote in message:r
On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 00:04:43 -0500, Wayne wrote:On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 20:04:36 -0500, John wrote:On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 16:31:41 -0500, Wayne B wrote:On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:26:50 -0800 (PST), wrote:On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 11:12:40 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:05:51 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:15:48 AM UTC-5, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 05:13:38 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 08:52:08 UTC-4, Wayne B wrote: https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/covid-2021-02-16?mod=djem10point Newly reported Covid-19 cases in the U.S. fell to their lowest level in nearly four months over Presidents
Day
weekend, and daily reported deaths declined sharply from a recent spike. There were more than 52,000 new cases reported for Monday, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from 64,938 a day earlier and 89,727 a week earlier. The latest number was published early Tuesday Eastern time and may be updated later in the morning. Too bad the US couldn't get rid of Trump 6 months ago. No telling how many lives that may have saved. === The best time would have been 12 months ago when he was still denying that Covid presented any risk at all. Of course his real risk was to his incumbency which he was acutely aware of. Wasn't that the same time Fauci was saying that the US had nothing to worry about? === Do you have a cite for that? I don't remember it."On Jan. 21 - the day the first
COVID-19 case in the U.S. was confirmed - Fauci appeared on conservative Newsmax TV. ?Bottom line, we don?t have to worry about this one, right?? asked Greg Kelly, the host.Fauci said, ?Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the kind of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should beworried about.?===Parsing his words, it seems like there's a bit of governmental doublespeak going on. And of course it was still early in the epidemicbefore people started dropping like flies in the north east.Does Trump get your same consideration?Hee, hee.===Hee, hee yourself John. What kind of consideration do you think heshould get? A cell right next to Bernie Madoff would be myrecommendation. They're both con men after all. Bernie got away
withit for a long time but his luck finally ran out. The same thing mayhappen with Trump. Stay tuned and pass the popcorn.I guess a subtle difference is Madoff scammed regular people,thousands of them and Trump just scammed a few banks who should knowbetter. If he is guilty, charge him in court. I am OK with that. It ishow the system works but I bet any successful prosecutions will be incivil or tax court, not criminal court. Basically only money. The question is whether he still has the abilityto make any. I think he is less than broke but I have felt that waysince the 70s when I said my real net worth is probably higher thanhis and I am just a "multi thousandaire". ;-) It always amazed me people would still lend him money and watch himliving large on those loans.At a certain point I just have to tell those venture capitalists"Stupid is as stupid does" and I don't really have that much sympathyfor them. They must believe they will get their money back somehow. Carl Ichan has
the right idea. Pick up his distressed properties atpennies on the dollar, bust them up and roll them over or develop themas an actual money maker. I still get my check from Carl everyquarter.

Is Carl the guy who owns the AC casino that was just demolished?
I can't imagine that property being worth much with a pile of
rubble on it.

Yup, that was "our" casino. (I own about 600 shares of Ichan
enterprises that owns it).
They say it will be paved over in time for the summer season parking
and then he will start working on how he will develop it.