I live on Julington Creek Harry About halfway between the bridge and Bayard.

Harry Krause wrote:

Capt. Frank Hopkins wrote:


Here is s pretty good recipe. Hometown cookin from Mandarin FL.



Mandarin has the best Chinese restaurant in NE Florida. You live in
Mandarin?

Capt. Frank Hopkins wrote:

I live on Julington Creek Harry About halfway between the bridge and Bayard.

Harry Krause wrote:

Capt. Frank Hopkins wrote:


Here is s pretty good recipe. Hometown cookin from Mandarin FL.



Mandarin has the best Chinese restaurant in NE Florida. You live in
Mandarin?








I know that area well, or at least I did until we moved away some years
ago. You know the Chinese restaurant I mean...the one on the right as
you head towards the Creek...in the nice little strip mall with the
beautiful live oaks? The shrimp and asparagus is delightful.
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Harry,

This has NOTHING to do with hushpuppies,

I live on Julington Creek, and am a member of the local USCG Auxiliary.
I have been very concerned with the St. Johns River's health, even
before there was such a thing as a newsgroup.

The NAS superfund site was cleaned up during the Regan administration.

According to Dr. Carole DeMort, Federal Marine Biologist for the local
area Navy and Chairperson of University of North Florida's Marine
Biology Department, there are no such plans to exempt the military from
any environmental standards.

In fact, both Naval Air Station, and Mayport Naval Station have
installed a state of the art oil spill containment facilities and rapid
response units attached to the fire departments on bases.

The Jacksonville Fire Department also has a HAZMAT rapid response unit
on the 4 fireboats, and the local Coast Guard has a "2 million gallon
per hour slick guzzler" and 6000' of containment boom.

In my opinion, the military has done a faithful job of insuring site
cleanups and addressing containment issues.

Our worst (superfund) pollution problem is from the Hipps road landfill,
which was recently designated as a superfund site and is scheduled to be
delt with this spring.

The worst problem with the St. Johns is fertilizer runoff (storm water)
from all the privately owned lawns and farms in the Palatka & Green Cove
Springs area.

The river is much cleaner then it was even ten years ago, but we still
have a long way to go in efforts to return it to the pristine waterway
it was in the early 1800's. (That's when my family move to "Cowford")

See my website for a discussion of the river's springs and health.

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~aartworks

Regards,
Capt. Frank

AND NOW BACK TO HUSHPUPIES!! YUM!

Harry Krause wrote:
Doug Kanter wrote:

"JohnH" wrote in message
. ..


On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 20:04:29 GMT, "Doug Kanter"



wrote:


"UglyDan®©T" wrote in message
...


Fresh water fishing in Puerto Rico?? UD

Good info on the lakes:
http://www.rainforestsafari.com/Fishing.html



...and...good info on why to be really careful around fresh water lakes

down

the
http://www.who.int/inf-fs/en/fact115.html


Never went in the water! Now I'm glad!!!

Thanks for the URL's, brought back some nice memories. I was 8-11 years

old when

my dad was in the Air Force down there.

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

Yeah....bladder cancer from a dip in a cool lake! I don't know if I'd take
little kids fishing there, unless there was a second adult to make sure
their hands never went near their mouths until they'd washed.



Now, now, Doug...it isn't nice to force reality into the picture here.

While living in Jacksonville and St. Augustine, Florida, some years ago,
I was horrified by the prospect of the military's "superfund" sites
adjacent to heavily populated areas. One of them, a Naval Air Station,
was right on the St. Johns River, a waterway popular for all sorts of
recreation, including fishing and boating.

Isn't the Bush Administration planning to exempt the military from
anti-pollution regs? Won't that have a nice impact on our waterways and
fisheries?

Unfortunately, the chinese restaurant is gone, and replaced by a rather
large shopping center. But, others have opened. I went to Wasabi's for
sushi tonight. It was great.

You would not believe the changes in the last 5 or 6 years. A growth
rate of 600%!

CF

Harry Krause wrote:
Capt. Frank Hopkins wrote:


I live on Julington Creek Harry About halfway between the bridge and Bayard.

Harry Krause wrote:


Capt. Frank Hopkins wrote:



Here is s pretty good recipe. Hometown cookin from Mandarin FL.



Mandarin has the best Chinese restaurant in NE Florida. You live in
Mandarin?








I know that area well, or at least I did until we moved away some years
ago. You know the Chinese restaurant I mean...the one on the right as
you head towards the Creek...in the nice little strip mall with the
beautiful live oaks? The shrimp and asparagus is delightful.

Capt. Frank Hopkins wrote:

Harry,

This has NOTHING to do with hushpuppies,

I live on Julington Creek, and am a member of the local USCG Auxiliary.
I have been very concerned with the St. Johns River's health, even
before there was such a thing as a newsgroup.

The NAS superfund site was cleaned up during the Regan administration.

Nope. Sorry. It is still on the list.



According to Dr. Carole DeMort, Federal Marine Biologist for the local
area Navy and Chairperson of University of North Florida's Marine
Biology Department, there are no such plans to exempt the military from
any environmental standards.

Dr. DeMort is uninformed. It is under discussion in Washington, D.C.,
and is being debated.




In fact, both Naval Air Station, and Mayport Naval Station have
installed a state of the art oil spill containment facilities and rapid
response units attached to the fire departments on bases.

You've been reading PR statements.


In my opinion, the military has done a faithful job of insuring site
cleanups and addressing containment issues.


My opinion and that of many others who really watch this stuff is that
the military is paying lip service to the concept.


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On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 18:13:04 -0600, Maynard G. Krebbs
wrote:



Try this "Old-Fashioned Sweet-Sour Cole Slaw" from the Brookville
Hotel (Since 1870) in Brookville, Kansas

1 1/2 pounds shredded green cabbage
1 teaspoon salt
2/3 cups sugar
1/3 cup vinegar
1 cup whipping cream

Place shredded cabbage in covered dish in refrigerator for several
hours. Mix ingredients in order giver 30 minutes before serving.
Chill and serve.

I always hated Cole Slaw till I tried this recipe.

Mark E. Williams

Thanks Mark! This is a great recipe. Simple and good. Everyone enjoyed the hell
out of it, even my wife who normally won't touch cole slaw. This one is a
keeper!

The only change I made was to add about a teaspoon of coarse ground black
pepper, mainly for some color. Good Stuff!!

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 08:42:26 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Doug Kanter wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...

On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 20:04:29 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:

"UglyDan®©T" wrote in message
...

Fresh water fishing in Puerto Rico?? UD

Good info on the lakes:
http://www.rainforestsafari.com/Fishing.html



...and...good info on why to be really careful around fresh water
lakes
down
the
http://www.who.int/inf-fs/en/fact115.html


Never went in the water! Now I'm glad!!!

Thanks for the URL's, brought back some nice memories. I was 8-11
years
old when
my dad was in the Air Force down there.

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

Yeah....bladder cancer from a dip in a cool lake! I don't know if I'd
take
little kids fishing there, unless there was a second adult to make sure
their hands never went near their mouths until they'd washed.


Now, now, Doug...it isn't nice to force reality into the picture here.

While living in Jacksonville and St. Augustine, Florida, some years ago,
I was horrified by the prospect of the military's "superfund" sites
adjacent to heavily populated areas. One of them, a Naval Air Station,
was right on the St. Johns River, a waterway popular for all sorts of
recreation, including fishing and boating.

Isn't the Bush Administration planning to exempt the military from
anti-pollution regs? Won't that have a nice impact on our waterways and
fisheries?
Only a twit would turn a hushpuppy thread into another forum for his
politics.

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

Harry got carried away. But, in fact, he's correct in his statement.

On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 19:26:58 -0500, JohnH
wrote:

On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 18:13:04 -0600, Maynard G. Krebbs
wrote:



Try this "Old-Fashioned Sweet-Sour Cole Slaw" from the Brookville
Hotel (Since 1870) in Brookville, Kansas

1 1/2 pounds shredded green cabbage
1 teaspoon salt
2/3 cups sugar
1/3 cup vinegar
1 cup whipping cream

Place shredded cabbage in covered dish in refrigerator for several
hours. Mix ingredients in order giver 30 minutes before serving.
Chill and serve.

I always hated Cole Slaw till I tried this recipe.

Mark E. Williams

Thanks Mark! This is a great recipe. Simple and good. Everyone enjoyed the hell
out of it, even my wife who normally won't touch cole slaw. This one is a
keeper!

The only change I made was to add about a teaspoon of coarse ground black
pepper, mainly for some color. Good Stuff!!

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD


You're welcome.
Mark E. Willaims

Backyard Renegade wrote:


.... contrary to
popular thinking, no state with a border on the atlantic ocean should
be considered "south".

Don't know much about geography, do you?

DSK

"Capt. Frank Hopkins" wrote:

Unfortunately, the chinese restaurant is gone, and replaced by a rather
large shopping center. But, others have opened. I went to Wasabi's for
sushi tonight. It was great.

You would not believe the changes in the last 5 or 6 years. A growth
rate of 600%!

My last duty station in the late '80s was a ship out of Mayport, and lived in the
Jax area for several years after. My favorite place was Chang's Mongolian BBQ down
at Jax Beach, but there were a lot of good restaurants. THe area was growing
incredibly fast then and traffic & crowding was getting intolerable. I'm not sorry
I moved away (for one thing, I met my wife here) but it is sad to see this
happening to so many nice areas (including here).

Regards
Doug King