What, no Mayonaise? Blasphemy!

"Maynard G. Krebbs" wrote in message
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On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 13:46:36 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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I am a California boy and hated coleslaw until I went to the South.
Instead
of mayonnaise they fix it with a sugar and vinegar dressing. Probably
black
strap molasses for the sugar.



Marzetti makes a pretty good cole slaw dressing in a jar. But, stores
never
put it right there with the other salad dressings. It's always off to the
side with the quirky stuff, with names like "Organic Sue's Stone Ground
Poppy Seed Dressing". There's also a dry mix that my ex's mother uses
which
is spectacular. She says the stores keep it in the produce department.
Greenish packet. I think she just adds milk.


Try this "Old-Fashioned Sweet-Sour Cole Slaw" from the Brookville
Hotel (Since 1870) in Brookville, Kansas

1 1/2 pounds shredded green cabbage
1 teaspoon salt
2/3 cups sugar
1/3 cup vinegar
1 cup whipping cream

Place shredded cabbage in covered dish in refrigerator for several
hours. Mix ingredients in order giver 30 minutes before serving.
Chill and serve.

I always hated Cole Slaw till I tried this recipe.

Mark E. Williams

On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:43:00 -0600, "Keith" wrote:

What, no Mayonaise? Blasphemy!

"Maynard G. Krebbs" wrote in message
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On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 13:46:36 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...


I am a California boy and hated coleslaw until I went to the South.
Instead
of mayonnaise they fix it with a sugar and vinegar dressing. Probably
black
strap molasses for the sugar.



Marzetti makes a pretty good cole slaw dressing in a jar. But, stores
never
put it right there with the other salad dressings. It's always off to the
side with the quirky stuff, with names like "Organic Sue's Stone Ground
Poppy Seed Dressing". There's also a dry mix that my ex's mother uses
which
is spectacular. She says the stores keep it in the produce department.
Greenish packet. I think she just adds milk.


Try this "Old-Fashioned Sweet-Sour Cole Slaw" from the Brookville
Hotel (Since 1870) in Brookville, Kansas

1 1/2 pounds shredded green cabbage
1 teaspoon salt
2/3 cups sugar
1/3 cup vinegar
1 cup whipping cream

Place shredded cabbage in covered dish in refrigerator for several
hours. Mix ingredients in order giver 30 minutes before serving.
Chill and serve.

I always hated Cole Slaw till I tried this recipe.

Mark E. Williams


Keith, try this stuff. Do exactly as the recipe says. It's great!

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 13:37:25 +0000, JohnH wrote:

When I was a kid, my dad would take me fishing at one of the fresh water lakes
in Puerto Rico. We would catch a washtub full of catfish and have a fish fry for
the neighborhood that afternoon. My mother would fix hush puppies to go with the
catfish. They were the best hp's I've ever had, and I've not been able to
duplicate them. I can't even come close!

Question: Who has a fantastic hush puppy recipe? Next, what is the recipe. My
mom died several years ago, and one of my biggest boo-boos was my failure to get
that recipe.

Help!

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

After all the discussion on coleslaw, I STILL wanna know what a
"hush-puppy" is (apart from the shoe already mentioned...)

Lloyd Sumpter
"Far Cove" Catalina 36 - in the "deep south" of Canada...

"Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message
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On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 13:37:25 +0000, JohnH wrote:

When I was a kid, my dad would take me fishing at one of the fresh water
lakes
in Puerto Rico. We would catch a washtub full of catfish and have a fish
fry for
the neighborhood that afternoon. My mother would fix hush puppies to go
with the
catfish. They were the best hp's I've ever had, and I've not been able
to
duplicate them. I can't even come close!

Question: Who has a fantastic hush puppy recipe? Next, what is the
recipe. My
mom died several years ago, and one of my biggest boo-boos was my
failure to get
that recipe.

Help!

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

After all the discussion on coleslaw, I STILL wanna know what a
"hush-puppy" is (apart from the shoe already mentioned...)

Lloyd Sumpter
"Far Cove" Catalina 36 - in the "deep south" of Canada...


OK....which of you Southern boys is gonna send Lloyd a few boxes of hush
puppy mix?

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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snipped for my benefit

So Harry, any hush puppy recipes you can share?

thanx in advance!

Hi Doug, Chang's Chinese is still around and has expanded to 3
locations. Jacksonville and surrounding area has quintupled in size
since the 80's and the population topped the million mark in '96.

There is a "new" mall at the intersection of Southside Blvd. and
Phillips Hwy. (US1) in which opened a Bouca De Beppo, Italian
restaurant. Mighty tasty food. The city government passed a vote "The
Better Jacksonville Plan" and is re-building older infrastructure, and
adding a great deal of new stuff.
The old Veteran's Memorial Coliseum has been torn down and the new 12,00
seat "Jacksonville Arena" has been built in its place. It opens in a few
days with an Elton John concert. The memorial wall was saved and is a
permanent fixture of the sports/entertainment complex.
New parks and boat launching ramps are under construction all over the
city. You will recall the nightmare trip into Mayport Naval station if
you had to make a north turn from Atlantic blvd. This has been remedied
with a dedicated overpass which flies from Atlantic to Mayport Rd. There
is also a new expressway "Wonderwood expressway" which will connect into
Mayport Road from north of Regency Square. Most of it is a long bridge.
295 is now a loop around both sides of the city, the southern/eastern
portion designated 9A. It sports an impressive bridge (Dame Point
Bridge) and more than 75 overpasses. I can now go from Mandarin to the
Beaches in less then 20 minuets. A trip which once took over an hour and
was 20 miles longer.

I have some live rivercams on my website if you wish to have a look.

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~aartworks/stjohns.html

Regards,
Capt. Frank

DSK wrote:

"Capt. Frank Hopkins" wrote:


Unfortunately, the chinese restaurant is gone, and replaced by a rather
large shopping center. But, others have opened. I went to Wasabi's for
sushi tonight. It was great.

You would not believe the changes in the last 5 or 6 years. A growth
rate of 600%!


My last duty station in the late '80s was a ship out of Mayport, and lived in the
Jax area for several years after. My favorite place was Chang's Mongolian BBQ down
at Jax Beach, but there were a lot of good restaurants. THe area was growing
incredibly fast then and traffic & crowding was getting intolerable. I'm not sorry
I moved away (for one thing, I met my wife here) but it is sad to see this
happening to so many nice areas (including here).

Regards
Doug King

A small ball of "hushpuppy dough" deep fried to a golden brown. Try one
of the recipes. They are great.

CF

Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 13:37:25 +0000, JohnH wrote:


When I was a kid, my dad would take me fishing at one of the fresh water lakes
in Puerto Rico. We would catch a washtub full of catfish and have a fish fry for
the neighborhood that afternoon. My mother would fix hush puppies to go with the
catfish. They were the best hp's I've ever had, and I've not been able to
duplicate them. I can't even come close!

Question: Who has a fantastic hush puppy recipe? Next, what is the recipe. My
mom died several years ago, and one of my biggest boo-boos was my failure to get
that recipe.

Help!

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD


After all the discussion on coleslaw, I STILL wanna know what a
"hush-puppy" is (apart from the shoe already mentioned...)

Lloyd Sumpter
"Far Cove" Catalina 36 - in the "deep south" of Canada...

same here as well, except growing up on NE, it is not exactly the Mecca of
southern cooking. now if you want to debate pizza, bring it on!

anyone else have goobers in their cole slaw? my friend's dad from Oklahoma
makes it from scratch when he visits and i can eat it by the bowl full.


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...
I am a California boy and hated coleslaw until I went to the South.
Instead
of mayonnaise they fix it with a sugar and vinegar dressing. Probably
black
strap molasses for the sugar.

Lloyd Sumpter wrote:
After all the discussion on coleslaw, I STILL wanna know what a
"hush-puppy" is (apart from the shoe already mentioned...)

A REAL hush puppy is nothing but a bit of fried corn bread batter. Hush
puppies are so named because that's exactly what their orginal purpose
was: something to toss to hungry barking dogs to shut 'em up. It was
only after someone (prob'ly a Yankee...Yankees don't really like real
southern cooking, so they change it into something else and pretend it's
still southern cooking) decided to turn hush puppies into people food
that recipes began to include onions, jalapenos and whatever else.

REAL southern cooking is what some people call "soul food" 'cuz that
sounds trendier than "poor folks food". But that's what it really is.
Wheat flour is hard to come by in the south, but anyone can grow
corn...and they invented cornbread....and hominy...and how to make
grits. "High class" green vegetables like peas and green beans cost
more to grow than turnips...carrots only grow in sandy soil (the south
is red clay)...and someone found that turnip greens (the part of the
turnip that grows above ground) are edible if simmered with "fat back"
(a chunk of bacon trimmings), salt and pepper. Pigs don't cost much to
raise, so they had meat and learned how to preserve it...since they
couldn't afford to waste anything, they also learned how make pig's feet
and hog jowls edible...and turn the entrails into chitterlings
(correctly pronounced "chitlins"--and the the only thing I know of that
tastes and smells worse is Scottish haggis). They grew peanuts and
learned to boil 'em as well as roast 'em. This was--and is--the diet of
poor southerners, black AND white.

But some time during the civil rights era, it got the name "soul food"
and for a while was THE "in cuisine" among the trendy. But people who
can afford better don't like it, so they had to change it into something
they do like while calling it by its orginal names. And that includes
hush puppies, which are actually nothing more a bite size bit of stone
ground cornmeal and buttermilk fried in some lard.

Peggie
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Lloyd, Don't know if you guys have "Skippers" (I know don't wake the
dead) seafood restaurants up your way,(Seattle does)but if so, They just
started serving Hush Puppies, not bad either, and since I don't live in
Ballard anymore to get to my favorite fish place's, Gordo's or Totem
House, I have no choice but "Skippers" UD



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