Friday Ethics Question
 

Friday Ethics Question:



I ordered parts worth over $1000 to make a trailer. When we went to pick
them up one of the parts, a brake actuator, worth about $135 was the one we
ordered but not the right part for the job. The company agreed that there
was no way for me to know this was the wrong part and agreed that they
should have know and advised us. They gave us a refund for the incorrect
part and said they would ship - at their expense - the correct one.



Yesterday a package arrived with the replacement part and another item we
had ordered. They paid the shipping, as they said they would, and they
charged us for the new item. But they did not charge us for the new
actuator.



So the basic question is: If a company sends you something and forgets to
charge you, do you tell them? And even more telling, WHY?

Friday Ethics Question
 

So the basic question is: If a company sends you something and forgets to
charge you, do you tell them? And even more telling, WHY?

In this case, my opinion is that you should pay.

You ordered the wrong part. The company could have simply supplied the part you
ordered, collected your money, and gone merrily down the road. When you later
discovered the part you had specified was the wrong part for the job, the
company could have refused to accept a return and suggest that you buy another
one, or could have charged you a restocking fee.

The company took enough interest in your ultimate satisfaction to call your
attention to the fact that you had ordered an improper part, and aranged to
send you the actual part you should have ordered in the first place. Should you
repay that kindness by stiffing them for $135? Nah.

They saved you from the consequences of your own oversight. The least you can
do is be equally classy in return.


Friday Ethics Question:



I ordered parts worth over $1000 to make a trailer. When we went to pick
them up one of the parts, a brake actuator, worth about $135 was the one we
ordered but not the right part for the job. The company agreed that there
was no way for me to know this was the wrong part and agreed that they
should have know and advised us. They gave us a refund for the incorrect
part and said they would ship - at their expense - the correct one.



Yesterday a package arrived with the replacement part and another item we
had ordered. They paid the shipping, as they said they would, and they
charged us for the new item. But they did not charge us for the new
actuator.



So the basic question is: If a company sends you something and forgets to
charge you, do you tell them? And even more telling, WHY?

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"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...


Friday Ethics Question:



I ordered parts worth over $1000 to make a trailer. When we went to pick
them up one of the parts, a brake actuator, worth about $135 was the one
we
ordered but not the right part for the job. The company agreed that there
was no way for me to know this was the wrong part and agreed that they
should have know and advised us. They gave us a refund for the incorrect
part and said they would ship - at their expense - the correct one.



Yesterday a package arrived with the replacement part and another item we
had ordered. They paid the shipping, as they said they would, and they
charged us for the new item. But they did not charge us for the new
actuator.



So the basic question is: If a company sends you something and forgets to
charge you, do you tell them? And even more telling, WHY?

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I would tell them, because that is the way I would want to be treated if I
was the supplier. They went out of their way to treat you like a valued
customer, now is the time to treat them like a valued supplier.


"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...


Friday Ethics Question:



I ordered parts worth over $1000 to make a trailer. When we went to pick
them up one of the parts, a brake actuator, worth about $135 was the one
we
ordered but not the right part for the job. The company agreed that there
was no way for me to know this was the wrong part and agreed that they
should have know and advised us. They gave us a refund for the incorrect
part and said they would ship - at their expense - the correct one.



Yesterday a package arrived with the replacement part and another item we
had ordered. They paid the shipping, as they said they would, and they
charged us for the new item. But they did not charge us for the new
actuator.



So the basic question is: If a company sends you something and forgets to
charge you, do you tell them? And even more telling, WHY?

Friday Ethics Question
 

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:42:49 -0500, "Gary Warner"
wrote:



Friday Ethics Question:



I ordered parts worth over $1000 to make a trailer. When we went to pick
them up one of the parts, a brake actuator, worth about $135 was the one we
ordered but not the right part for the job. The company agreed that there
was no way for me to know this was the wrong part and agreed that they
should have know and advised us. They gave us a refund for the incorrect
part and said they would ship - at their expense - the correct one.



Yesterday a package arrived with the replacement part and another item we
had ordered. They paid the shipping, as they said they would, and they
charged us for the new item. But they did not charge us for the new
actuator.



So the basic question is: If a company sends you something and forgets to
charge you, do you tell them? And even more telling, WHY?


Boy, a real problem with situational ethics here.......

1, Yes.
2. Because
a) It is the right thing to do, and
b) There is no way to reconcile getting something for free that you
knew you were to pay for.

Flip side: So the basic question is: If a company sends you something
and discovers they have accidentally charged you twice, do they tell
you? And even more telling, WHY?

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On 14 Nov 2003 20:03:29 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

[snip]

The company took enough interest in your ultimate satisfaction to call your
attention to the fact that you had ordered an improper part, and aranged to
send you the actual part you should have ordered in the first place. Should you
repay that kindness by stiffing them for $135? Nah.

They saved you from the consequences of your own oversight. The least you can
do is be equally classy in return.

What he said.

Joe Parsons

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"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...


So the basic question is: If a company sends you something and forgets to
charge you, do you tell them? And even more telling, WHY?


What's your time worth? Do you have enough free time, or would you rather
waste more of it doing chores? How much time would it have taken to attempt
installing the incorrect part? What did you do with the time you saved by
NOT dicking around with the wrong part?

Do you see that whatever benefit you derived from having the RIGHT part, it
was due to the efforts of the supplier?

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In article ,
says...

So the basic question is: If a company sends you something and forgets to
charge you, do you tell them? And even more telling, WHY?

They gave you good service and you want to do your part to help
companies like this survive. Plus, you rid your conscience of any
culpability, eliminate the potential for dubious rationalizations and
get to think of yourself as a stand up guy.

Additionally, you help them by making them aware that they had a hiccup
in the system and should pay better attention.

Tell 'em.

jps

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On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:42:49 -0500, "Gary Warner"
wrote:


So the basic question is: If a company sends you something and forgets to
charge you, do you tell them? And even more telling, WHY?

Yes. Karma.

In your case, who the heck wants to be driving down with road with bad
trailer brake karma?

bb

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"WaIIy" wrote in message
...


"karma" is a contrived device for people who can't figure things out on
their own.

Thank you Wally. Another nugget of wisdom from the water boy on the
intellectual farm team.

Main Entry: kar·ma
Pronunciation: 'kär-m& also 'k&r-
Function: noun
Etymology: Sanskrit karma fate, work
Date: 1827
1 often capitalized : the force generated by a person's actions held in
Hinduism and Buddhism to perpetuate transmigration and in its ethical
consequences to determine the nature of the person's next existence.

Think you can go back an reinterpret the message you bashed due to your
ignorance?

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Of course you should pay. (It might be a test!)

====

Charles T. Low
- remove "UN"
www.boatdocking.com
www.ctlow.ca/Trojan26 - my boat

====

"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...
Friday Ethics Question:
...They gave us a refund ...But they did not charge us for the new
actuator.
So the basic question is: If a company sends you something and forgets to
charge you, do you tell them? And even more telling, WHY?

Of course, if it were a Wednesday, or some other less ethical day...

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In article ,
says...
"WaIIy" wrote in message
...


"karma" is a contrived device for people who can't figure things out on
their own.

Thank you Wally. Another nugget of wisdom from the water boy on the
intellectual farm team.

Main Entry: kar·ma
Pronunciation: 'kär-m& also 'k&r-
Function: noun
Etymology: Sanskrit karma fate, work
Date: 1827
1 often capitalized : the force generated by a person's actions held in
Hinduism and Buddhism to perpetuate transmigration and in its ethical
consequences to determine the nature of the person's next existence.

Think you can go back an reinterpret the message you bashed due to your
ignorance?

God forbid we interpret Jesus or Heaven & Hell or Evil and the Devil as
a "contrived device for people who can't figure things out on their
own."

Especially since our President depends on these constructs to guide his
life, outlook and decisions.

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I just want to clear up a few points:

#1 - I discovered when reading the manual for the part that it
was the wrong one. They did not discover it for me.

#2 - I did not post this here looking for "advice" to help
me determin what to do. I know what I think. I was just
curious to see what some you all would say.

I agree that paying is the right thing. But it's the WHY that
I like to hear people say.

I'm not religious so anything like because I will be judged
by God or in the afterlife doesn't do it for me.

I do believe in something bigger like that all actions we
take effect the entire "cosmos" so even though this is a
very small thing - it will either contribute to making things
a little better or a little worse. ~ But even with this
the consequences are so small to everyone that this,
while a good reason, is not all that compelling.

Reasons like "because" or "it's the right thing
to do" are OK, but really don't say much.

My biggest reason seems to be somewhat selfish.
I know that I would always look at our beautiful
boat and trailer and have a little sting of regret
or embarrasment (and some other terms).

Lastly, I do believe a bit in Karma. I agree that
many people use that term almost as lightly as
"because". But if you think somewhat deeply
I do believe one can find real-life-physics
mechanisims that "Karma" can be a short-
hand for. I could type tens of pages explaining
my thoughts behind why "Karma" is real...but
not right now. Time for a beer and then dinner.

Have a good weekend you all.
Gary

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"WaIIy" wrote:

I'm amazed you would ask this, let alone in a public forum.

Please see my other post on this. Please don't assume that
because I asked the question I was in a quandry. I was looking
for what you all would say.

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I would agree in this case. My motto is...if you are treated
fairly...return the favour.
Besides, you may need them again for help, warranty replacement...whatever.

Gary Warner wrote in message
...


Friday Ethics Question:



I ordered parts worth over $1000 to make a trailer. When we went to pick
them up one of the parts, a brake actuator, worth about $135 was the one
we
ordered but not the right part for the job. The company agreed that there
was no way for me to know this was the wrong part and agreed that they
should have know and advised us. They gave us a refund for the incorrect
part and said they would ship - at their expense - the correct one.



Yesterday a package arrived with the replacement part and another item we
had ordered. They paid the shipping, as they said they would, and they
charged us for the new item. But they did not charge us for the new
actuator.



So the basic question is: If a company sends you something and forgets to
charge you, do you tell them? And even more telling, WHY?

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Also, I have, I think, the distinction of posting the
only post this year that everyone on this group
seems to be in agreement on.....



PS: "Stella Blue" is a friend of mine and I was posting from that computer.


"WaIIy" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:42:49 -0500, "Gary Warner"
wrote:



Friday Ethics Question:



I ordered parts worth over $1000 to make a trailer. When we went to pick
them up one of the parts, a brake actuator, worth about $135 was the one
we
ordered but not the right part for the job. The company agreed that
there
was no way for me to know this was the wrong part and agreed that they
should have know and advised us. They gave us a refund for the incorrect
part and said they would ship - at their expense - the correct one.



Yesterday a package arrived with the replacement part and another item we
had ordered. They paid the shipping, as they said they would, and they
charged us for the new item. But they did not charge us for the new
actuator.



So the basic question is: If a company sends you something and forgets to
charge you, do you tell them? And even more telling, WHY?

I'm amazed you would ask this, let alone in a public forum.

Friday Ethics Question
 

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 01:24:05 GMT, WaIIy wrote:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:15:00 -0500, "Stella Blue"
wrote:

My biggest reason seems to be somewhat selfish.
I know that I would always look at our beautiful
boat and trailer and have a little sting of regret
or embarrasment (and some other terms).

Guilt seems to be your motivater.

Interesting.

You should read his entire thoughtful post--not merely the one sentence that
gave you an opportunity to insult him.

Joe Parsons

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Hey Gary,

I am sure, that sooner or later, the bean counters will get around to
the error and bill you. If I were you, I would call *their* error to
attention accounts recieveable, enclosing a check to take care of the
matter.

The next time you need parts, (Say on the road.) the company will be
happy to send you, express, any parts you may urgently need, as you have
now proved you are credit worthy.

Actions of this sort goes a long way with billing departments and
management. I (we) pay all our bills on time. Most suppliers we deal
with are glad to send us anything we need with an invoice.

Just my opinion,

Capt. Frank

Gary Warner wrote:
Friday Ethics Question:



I ordered parts worth over $1000 to make a trailer. When we went to pick
them up one of the parts, a brake actuator, worth about $135 was the one we
ordered but not the right part for the job. The company agreed that there
was no way for me to know this was the wrong part and agreed that they
should have know and advised us. They gave us a refund for the incorrect
part and said they would ship - at their expense - the correct one.



Yesterday a package arrived with the replacement part and another item we
had ordered. They paid the shipping, as they said they would, and they
charged us for the new item. But they did not charge us for the new
actuator.



So the basic question is: If a company sends you something and forgets to
charge you, do you tell them? And even more telling, WHY?

Friday Ethics Question
 

No non-pondscum would even think there is a question.

Period.

..

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I tend to assume that they will do thier job and find the error - OR - karma
granted me a break for having the frustration of dealing with incorrect
parts.

I have enough trouble dealing with my own errors - I let others deal with
theirs.
But I NEVER misrepresent anything to "cause" an error.

-W

"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...


Friday Ethics Question:



I ordered parts worth over $1000 to make a trailer. When we went to pick
them up one of the parts, a brake actuator, worth about $135 was the one
we
ordered but not the right part for the job. The company agreed that there
was no way for me to know this was the wrong part and agreed that they
should have know and advised us. They gave us a refund for the incorrect
part and said they would ship - at their expense - the correct one.



Yesterday a package arrived with the replacement part and another item we
had ordered. They paid the shipping, as they said they would, and they
charged us for the new item. But they did not charge us for the new
actuator.



So the basic question is: If a company sends you something and forgets to
charge you, do you tell them? And even more telling, WHY?

Friday Ethics Question
 

See? I saw it as karma already coming full circle..... LOL


"bb" wrote in message

Yes. Karma.

In your case, who the heck wants to be driving down with road with bad
trailer brake karma?

bb

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Or to put it another way........ if a company is niggardly paying minimum
wage to employees, they get what they pay for. I'm not the quality controll
dept at XXX parts vendor, I'm the QC at Clams Canino Marine and that's work
enough for me.

-W

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
news:YOhtb.150979$mZ5.1033876@attbi_s54...
I tend to assume that they will do thier job and find the error - OR -
karma
granted me a break for having the frustration of dealing with incorrect
parts.

I have enough trouble dealing with my own errors - I let others deal with
theirs.
But I NEVER misrepresent anything to "cause" an error.

-W

"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...


Friday Ethics Question:



I ordered parts worth over $1000 to make a trailer. When we went to pick
them up one of the parts, a brake actuator, worth about $135 was the one
we
ordered but not the right part for the job. The company agreed that
there
was no way for me to know this was the wrong part and agreed that they
should have know and advised us. They gave us a refund for the
incorrect
part and said they would ship - at their expense - the correct one.



Yesterday a package arrived with the replacement part and another item
we
had ordered. They paid the shipping, as they said they would, and they
charged us for the new item. But they did not charge us for the new
actuator.



So the basic question is: If a company sends you something and forgets
to
charge you, do you tell them? And even more telling, WHY?

Friday Ethics Question
 

Gary,
You should tell them! Because it's the right think to do. If you made
the mistake, wouldn't you want your customer to be honest?
Paul

"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...


Friday Ethics Question:



I ordered parts worth over $1000 to make a trailer. When we went to pick
them up one of the parts, a brake actuator, worth about $135 was the one
we
ordered but not the right part for the job. The company agreed that there
was no way for me to know this was the wrong part and agreed that they
should have know and advised us. They gave us a refund for the incorrect
part and said they would ship - at their expense - the correct one.



Yesterday a package arrived with the replacement part and another item we
had ordered. They paid the shipping, as they said they would, and they
charged us for the new item. But they did not charge us for the new
actuator.



So the basic question is: If a company sends you something and forgets to
charge you, do you tell them? And even more telling, WHY?

Friday Ethics Question
 

Gary,
I guess it comes down to what you see when you look in the mirror. Like
you say it's not a big think, but in the world of Karma things add up.
Maybe it comes down to are you for good or evil, what you contribute to the
overall Karma is it a positive or a negative? I guess it's just striving to
do the right thing and every little bit counts.
Paul

"Stella Blue" wrote in message
...

I just want to clear up a few points:

#1 - I discovered when reading the manual for the part that it
was the wrong one. They did not discover it for me.

#2 - I did not post this here looking for "advice" to help
me determin what to do. I know what I think. I was just
curious to see what some you all would say.

I agree that paying is the right thing. But it's the WHY that
I like to hear people say.

I'm not religious so anything like because I will be judged
by God or in the afterlife doesn't do it for me.

I do believe in something bigger like that all actions we
take effect the entire "cosmos" so even though this is a
very small thing - it will either contribute to making things
a little better or a little worse. ~ But even with this
the consequences are so small to everyone that this,
while a good reason, is not all that compelling.

Reasons like "because" or "it's the right thing
to do" are OK, but really don't say much.

My biggest reason seems to be somewhat selfish.
I know that I would always look at our beautiful
boat and trailer and have a little sting of regret
or embarrasment (and some other terms).

Lastly, I do believe a bit in Karma. I agree that
many people use that term almost as lightly as
"because". But if you think somewhat deeply
I do believe one can find real-life-physics
mechanisims that "Karma" can be a short-
hand for. I could type tens of pages explaining
my thoughts behind why "Karma" is real...but
not right now. Time for a beer and then dinner.

Have a good weekend you all.
Gary

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On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:28:59 GMT, WaIIy
wrote:

"karma" is a contrived device for people who can't figure things out on
their own.

I'm still waiting for you to add anything of intellectual value to any
of the discussions on rec.boats. I'm a very, very patient person.
I'm not giving up hope that someday you will make me proud,
grasshopper.

bb

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bb wrote:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:28:59 GMT, WaIIy
wrote:

"karma" is a contrived device for people who can't figure things out on
their own.

I'm still waiting for you to add anything of intellectual value to any
of the discussions on rec.boats. I'm a very, very patient person.
I'm not giving up hope that someday you will make me proud,
grasshopper.

bb


You also must be waiting for hell to freeze over. Wally is one of the
dumbest clucks who posts here. He's a first cousin to Dave Hall, who
just yesterday claimed that psychiatry was never necessary, and that he
would be able to force his young daughter to behave in a way he found
acceptable.

Wally probably thinks karma is the candy coating sometimes applied to
apples on a stick.

--
Email sent to is never read.

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On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:34:37 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:


You also must be waiting for hell to freeze over.

Hey man, the Bucs won the Super Bowl. Lightning can strike twice, I
just know it.

bb

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Gary,
I guess it comes down to what you see when you look in the mirror. Like
you say it's not a big think, but in the world of Karma things add up.

When I was in the automobile business, we used to joke about "Carma, with a C".

Over the years, a spooky tendency became apparent. Some customers who came in
to buy cars had belligerent, antagonistic attitudes. They would scream about
getting "screwed" on a $20,000 transaction if they discovered somebody else had
paid $50 less. They would bitch and moan about the product's shortcomings
throughout the demonstration and negotiation. They would
make disparaging remarks about auto salespeople, the dealership, the
manufacturer, etc. In short, these people arrived in a miserable frame of mind
and were determined to make everyone else equally miserable if at all possible.

Then, there were the customers who treated people nicely, expected a fair and
favorable deal but knew how to negotiate without ascribing canine tendencies to
dear old Mom, and wouldn't come charging back in three days later yelling at
the salesman because the left rear tire had one pound too little air pressure.
These folks seemed to run on positive energy.

One of life's mysteries was how often it developed that when people hated their
cars, the cars would "hate them" back.
Maybe it was only because the antagonistic jerks made themselves so evident
when they had to bring their car in for repairs......but it did seem that the
miserable and unhappy people had far more problems with their vehicles after
purchase than the folks who acted decently and ultimately purchased something
they enjoyed.

We only half way joked that it was Carma, with a C.

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bb wrote:

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:34:37 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:


You also must be waiting for hell to freeze over.

Hey man, the Bucs won the Super Bowl. Lightning can strike twice, I
just know it.

bb

One of these days I'll have to watch a pro football game again. I
suppose that'll be after I attend another NASCAR event. Corporate sports
just don't do it for me.



--
Email sent to is never read.

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On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:00:48 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Corporate sports
just don't do it for me.

Can't say as I blame anyone for being turned off by pro sports. I've
been a Bucs fan for many years and enjoyed their run to the SB. But,
I watch when it's entertaining, and I don't watch when it isn't. I
keep in mind that it is just that, entertainment.

Although one of my favorite games of the year is this Sunday
(Bucs/Packers), I'm gonna try and go fishing instead if the weather is
good. I've had my new boat for a couple of months now and haven't
been able to use it but once.

bb

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"WaIIy" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:41:22 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


Think you can go back an reinterpret the message you bashed due to your
ignorance?

If you need to resort to a dictionary to support your opinions, you need
better opinions.

No entry found for douglas.

Did you mean dogmas?

I was helping you with a word you were having a hard time with. Say "thank
you" and go back to sleep.

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On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:27:50 GMT, WaIIy
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:24:58 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

Flip side: So the basic question is: If a company sends you something
and discovers they have accidentally charged you twice, do they tell
you? And even more telling, WHY?

There is no flip side to this question.

I don't get your drift. Are you saying it is a clear morality issue,
you feel there is only one point of view, or?

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Wally,

I know it bother's you that I even could HAVE
this question in my head. But there are many
good reasons to stop and take a close look at
beliefs one thinks are rock solid. Here are a few:

-- To know exactly WHY you have that belief. I
can imagine that to you it is just "no question",
"no choice", and just "is". But somewhere in there
there *are* reasons driving you. To not inspect
yourself once in a while and reassess what makes
you tick is, to me, a shame.

-- Another reason is that some people, even if
it's only a few, will clearly see it another way. You
vehemently disagree with the other view, but learning
what makes others tick can help you to understand
them....even if you disagree or dislike them.

Why, Wally, do you feel so strongly that one
should tell the company of the mistake? So
far you haven't given *any* reason other than
an implied "because". And it was you that said:

"karma" is a contrived device for people who
can't figure things out on their own.

So have you figured something out? Is it deeper
than "because" or "religion"? I hope so. And I'd
be very interested (seriously) to hear your thoughts.
It's why I asked the qustion.

Gary

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Thanks.

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Subject: Friday Ethics Question
From: Joe Parsons

On 14 Nov 2003 20:03:29 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

[snip]

The company took enough interest in your ultimate satisfaction to call your
attention to the fact that you had ordered an improper part, and aranged to
send you the actual part you should have ordered in the first place. Should
you
repay that kindness by stiffing them for $135? Nah.

They saved you from the consequences of your own oversight. The least you
can
do is be equally classy in return.

What he said.

Joe Parsons

I'm with them.

Capt. Bill

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Gary Warner wrote:

Friday Ethics Question:

I ordered parts worth over $1000 to make a trailer. When we went to pick
them up one of the parts, a brake actuator, worth about $135 was the one we
ordered but not the right part for the job. The company agreed that there
was no way for me to know this was the wrong part and agreed that they
should have know and advised us. They gave us a refund for the incorrect
part and said they would ship - at their expense - the correct one.

Yesterday a package arrived with the replacement part and another item we
had ordered. They paid the shipping, as they said they would, and they
charged us for the new item. But they did not charge us for the new
actuator.

So the basic question is: If a company sends you something and forgets to
charge you, do you tell them? And even more telling, WHY?

Many companies have great customer service policies. I have dealt with
some who have sent me parts for free, just as a thanks for using their
products (Bennett Trim tabs comes to mind). This could be something like
that. But I would call first to ask if that was their intention.
Certainly, it would be easy to take the attitude that "they screwed up,
and it's in my favor", and take it to the bank. But those little
"oopses" eventually add up, and usually result in cost increases over
the board to cover them. But if you were willing to pay in good faith to
begin with, this should not be such a difficult decision.

Honesty - it's not just an obsolete concept.

Dave

Friday Ethics Question
 

bb wrote:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:42:49 -0500, "Gary Warner"
wrote:

So the basic question is: If a company sends you something and forgets to
charge you, do you tell them? And even more telling, WHY?

Yes. Karma.

In your case, who the heck wants to be driving down with road with bad
trailer brake karma?

bb


Especially if your Karma runs over my dogma......

Dave

Friday Ethics Question
 

Doug Kanter wrote:

"WaIIy" wrote in message
...


"karma" is a contrived device for people who can't figure things out on
their own.

Thank you Wally. Another nugget of wisdom from the water boy on the
intellectual farm team.

Main Entry: kar·ma
Pronunciation: 'kär-m& also 'k&r-
Function: noun
Etymology: Sanskrit karma fate, work
Date: 1827
1 often capitalized : the force generated by a person's actions held in
Hinduism and Buddhism to perpetuate transmigration and in its ethical
consequences to determine the nature of the person's next existence.

Think you can go back an reinterpret the message you bashed due to your
ignorance?

I think what Wally was refering to, was the spirituality asscociated
with the term "Karma". It's akin to saying "it's in God's hands".
Something those who don't share that particular belief system are likely
to dispute.

Dave

Friday Ethics Question
 

Harry Krause wrote:

bb wrote:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:28:59 GMT, WaIIy
wrote:

"karma" is a contrived device for people who can't figure things out on
their own.

I'm still waiting for you to add anything of intellectual value to any
of the discussions on rec.boats. I'm a very, very patient person.
I'm not giving up hope that someday you will make me proud,
grasshopper.

bb


You also must be waiting for hell to freeze over. Wally is one of the
dumbest clucks who posts here. He's a first cousin to Dave Hall, who
just yesterday claimed that psychiatry was never necessary, and that he
would be able to force his young daughter to behave in a way he found
acceptable.

Like a typical liberal, you once again pick and chose what you read,
spin it in a way as to reveal it in the most unfavorable light, and then
repost it as if it were the truth. I NEVER said that psychaitry was
*never* necessary, only that there are a great many people who are
"addicted" to therapy today, because they've never learned how to deal
with problems. Go ahead, deny that this happens.

I'm not "forcing" my daughter to act in an "acceptable way". I'm just
guiding her down a proper path, and not giving her the chance to adopt
bad habits.

Dave




Wally probably thinks karma is the candy coating sometimes applied to
apples on a stick.

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Friday Ethics Question
 

In article ,
says...
Doug Kanter wrote:

"WaIIy" wrote in message
...


"karma" is a contrived device for people who can't figure things out on
their own.

Thank you Wally. Another nugget of wisdom from the water boy on the
intellectual farm team.

Main Entry: kar·ma
Pronunciation: 'kär-m& also 'k&r-
Function: noun
Etymology: Sanskrit karma fate, work
Date: 1827
1 often capitalized : the force generated by a person's actions held in
Hinduism and Buddhism to perpetuate transmigration and in its ethical
consequences to determine the nature of the person's next existence.

Think you can go back an reinterpret the message you bashed due to your
ignorance?

I think what Wally was refering to, was the spirituality asscociated
with the term "Karma". It's akin to saying "it's in God's hands".
Something those who don't share that particular belief system are likely
to dispute.

Dave

Actually, it's the exact opposite. It's more akin to "you get back what
you put in." In other words, it's in your hands.