James W. Sloan wrote:

Harry,

Next time you're in the area, give me a shout and we'll have a beer and talk
boats. I'll always have some sort of project going....

James Sloan
Saint Simons Island, GA



I'll do that, but it'll be a while. My next planned trip south isn't
until February, and that's to the Miami area.


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I'll do that, but it'll be a while. My next planned trip south isn't
until February, and that's to the Miami area.

Boat Show? We go every year, I'm still reading brochures and catalogs from
last year's show!!

James W. Sloan wrote:

I'll do that, but it'll be a while. My next planned trip south isn't
until February, and that's to the Miami area.

Boat Show? We go every year, I'm still reading brochures and catalogs from
last year's show!!



Just because the boat show in Miami coincides with a trip I have to take
to attend a meeting every year doesn't mean I go to the meeting so I can
go to the boat show.

That's my story and I'm sticking with it.

The Miami show is a fabulous boat show, really. Kinda ruins you for
other shows.


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In article , Harry Krause
wrote:

Ernie wrote:

Interested in getting your comments regarding performance, and dealer
maintenance satisfaction. I live on the East coast.


I see quite a few of them out on Chesapeake Bay these days, and they do
well on the Bay. But the Bay conditions are not usually trying, other
than the hard chop. The green gelcoat I see on several seems to have
faded quickly, and the fasteners holding down the deck hardware are
rusted on several of the boats I've seen. Also, the deck hardware seems
undersized.


My Trophy has a blue gelcoat, and it's a bitch to keep it looking decent.
Of course the boat is 17 years old. While the colored gelcoat looks good
in the showroom, my experiences lead me to believe a white gelcoat resists
weather better. I don't know if this fading is specific to Bayliner, but
I wouldn't want to chance it with any new boat, considering the ammount of
money invested in a new boat.

Bob Dimond

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:02:03 -0500, (Bob
D.) wrote:
My Trophy has a blue gelcoat, and it's a bitch to keep it looking decent.
Of course the boat is 17 years old. While the colored gelcoat looks good
in the showroom, my experiences lead me to believe a white gelcoat resists
weather better. I don't know if this fading is specific to Bayliner, but
I wouldn't want to chance it with any new boat, considering the ammount of
money invested in a new boat.
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I think it's typical for all dark colored gelcoat to fade after 10
years or so, less if not kept up. It's rare to see a dark blue or red
older boat that is not badly faded unless its been repainted. After
17 years awlgrip is your friend (or any other good quality 2 part LP
paint).

I selected mine in white...but that was the only option for 2003 as far as I
know. The green is something new for 2004 in the smaller Trophys. Mine is
the 1802. After having had a red Sea Ray, I'd much prefer a white boat.
The two different greens are options on the Trophys this year (2004).
Hardware on mine is not undersized, mounted firm, all stainless. Plastic
thru-hulls above the water though. Everything is beded and sealed. Dealer
has been great.

The boat has taken 2 1/2 foot seas quite nice. I myself wouldn't venture
out in anything heavier than that in any 18 foot boat. I do have a friend
in California who has the same boat with the 115hp Merc 4 stroke and he's
had his out in 6 foot seas. But he's a bit nuts in my eyes. lol lol After
the first season I've no rust other than one screw on the bow rail. Easily
fixed. With the Merc 125hp Sal****er OB she's quick up on plane and I've
had her up to 41mph (GPS) with a little more to go. I'm quite happy with
the purchase and would recommend the boat. I know I'll consider Trophy
quite seriously when I'm ready to step up to a 23 for my next purchase.


"Bob D." wrote in message
...
In article , Harry Krause
wrote:

Ernie wrote:

Interested in getting your comments regarding performance, and dealer
maintenance satisfaction. I live on the East coast.


I see quite a few of them out on Chesapeake Bay these days, and they do
well on the Bay. But the Bay conditions are not usually trying, other
than the hard chop. The green gelcoat I see on several seems to have
faded quickly, and the fasteners holding down the deck hardware are
rusted on several of the boats I've seen. Also, the deck hardware seems
undersized.


My Trophy has a blue gelcoat, and it's a bitch to keep it looking decent.
Of course the boat is 17 years old. While the colored gelcoat looks good
in the showroom, my experiences lead me to believe a white gelcoat resists
weather better. I don't know if this fading is specific to Bayliner, but
I wouldn't want to chance it with any new boat, considering the ammount of
money invested in a new boat.

Bob Dimond

Any idea why they don't make longer center consoles? My first thought is that
they need the cuddy portion of the walkaround to reinforce the hull. I looked
for a 23 CC at a boat show and found out they didn't exist. Seems odd for a
"sport fishing" line.

Dan


Mole wrote:
I selected mine in white...but that was the only option for 2003 as far as I
know. The green is something new for 2004 in the smaller Trophys. Mine is
the 1802. After having had a red Sea Ray, I'd much prefer a white boat.
The two different greens are options on the Trophys this year (2004).
Hardware on mine is not undersized, mounted firm, all stainless. Plastic
thru-hulls above the water though. Everything is beded and sealed. Dealer
has been great.

The boat has taken 2 1/2 foot seas quite nice. I myself wouldn't venture
out in anything heavier than that in any 18 foot boat. I do have a friend
in California who has the same boat with the 115hp Merc 4 stroke and he's
had his out in 6 foot seas. But he's a bit nuts in my eyes. lol lol After
the first season I've no rust other than one screw on the bow rail. Easily
fixed. With the Merc 125hp Sal****er OB she's quick up on plane and I've
had her up to 41mph (GPS) with a little more to go. I'm quite happy with
the purchase and would recommend the boat. I know I'll consider Trophy
quite seriously when I'm ready to step up to a 23 for my next purchase.


"Bob D." wrote in message
...
In article , Harry Krause
wrote:


Ernie wrote:


Interested in getting your comments regarding performance, and dealer
maintenance satisfaction. I live on the East coast.


I see quite a few of them out on Chesapeake Bay these days, and they do
well on the Bay. But the Bay conditions are not usually trying, other
than the hard chop. The green gelcoat I see on several seems to have
faded quickly, and the fasteners holding down the deck hardware are
rusted on several of the boats I've seen. Also, the deck hardware seems
undersized.



My Trophy has a blue gelcoat, and it's a bitch to keep it looking decent.
Of course the boat is 17 years old. While the colored gelcoat looks good
in the showroom, my experiences lead me to believe a white gelcoat resists
weather better. I don't know if this fading is specific to Bayliner, but
I wouldn't want to chance it with any new boat, considering the ammount of
money invested in a new boat.


Bob Dimond

Dan Krueger wrote:

Any idea why they don't make longer center consoles? My first thought is that
they need the cuddy portion of the walkaround to reinforce the hull. I looked
for a 23 CC at a boat show and found out they didn't exist. Seems odd for a
"sport fishing" line.

Dan


Mole wrote:
I selected mine in white...but that was the only option for 2003 as far as I
know. The green is something new for 2004 in the smaller Trophys. Mine is
the 1802. After having had a red Sea Ray, I'd much prefer a white boat.
The two different greens are options on the Trophys this year (2004).
Hardware on mine is not undersized, mounted firm, all stainless. Plastic
thru-hulls above the water though. Everything is beded and sealed. Dealer
has been great.

The boat has taken 2 1/2 foot seas quite nice. I myself wouldn't venture
out in anything heavier than that in any 18 foot boat. I do have a friend
in California who has the same boat with the 115hp Merc 4 stroke and he's
had his out in 6 foot seas. But he's a bit nuts in my eyes. lol lol After
the first season I've no rust other than one screw on the bow rail. Easily
fixed. With the Merc 125hp Sal****er OB she's quick up on plane and I've
had her up to 41mph (GPS) with a little more to go. I'm quite happy with
the purchase and would recommend the boat. I know I'll consider Trophy
quite seriously when I'm ready to step up to a 23 for my next purchase.


"Bob D." wrote in message
...
In article , Harry Krause
wrote:


Ernie wrote:


Interested in getting your comments regarding performance, and dealer
maintenance satisfaction. I live on the East coast.


I see quite a few of them out on Chesapeake Bay these days, and they do
well on the Bay. But the Bay conditions are not usually trying, other
than the hard chop. The green gelcoat I see on several seems to have
faded quickly, and the fasteners holding down the deck hardware are
rusted on several of the boats I've seen. Also, the deck hardware seems
undersized.



My Trophy has a blue gelcoat, and it's a bitch to keep it looking decent.
Of course the boat is 17 years old. While the colored gelcoat looks good
in the showroom, my experiences lead me to believe a white gelcoat resists
weather better. I don't know if this fading is specific to Bayliner, but
I wouldn't want to chance it with any new boat, considering the ammount of
money invested in a new boat.


Bob Dimond





Without casting aspersions on Bayliner's Trophy line, it might be
pointed out that among the various sal****er fishing boat brands
available, the larger Trophies have not been big sellers. The last list
citing sales of new under 30' sal****er fishing boats that I saw had
Trophy 19th or 20th.

Most of the Trophies I see out on Chesapeake Bay are the smaller CC's.

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For all who responded - thanks a bunch. Your comments were very helpful and
thankful I picked white.


"Ernie" wrote in message
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Interested in getting your comments regarding performance, and dealer
maintenance satisfaction. I live on the East coast.

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