George Z. Bush wrote:

"Gactimus" wrote in message
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
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Is that what they tell you, sheep? He sat on his ass for seven
minutes when told that the country was under attack.

John Kerry sat on his ass for forty minutes.

But Kerry was NOT responsible for defending the country.....Bush was. He needed
to do something other than to continue to read fairy tales to kindergarten kids.
It obviously took him 7 minutes to get his brain engaged and get moving. Not a
great record regardless of what Kerry might or might not have done if he had
been responsible for making those kinds of decisions.

George Z.


Wait a minute...there's no evidence Bush was actually reading aloud from
that child's book. We've all seen and heard Bush attempt to read.
It is very painful. My guess is that the little kids and the little kid
POTUS were reading responsively, first the kids and then bush, one
sentence after another, and it was taking Bush seven minutes to figure
out how to pronounce some of the words in his sentence.



--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

"Ray Fischer" wrote

Sheep.


Ray, that's crap. If you read Mr.Ed's post you'ld see he's thinking
about the issues and why he's voting the way he is. Just because he's
determined, through thought, that the Republicans are offering the better
candidates for his values & beliefs does NOT make him sheep. The
whole point of his post -- that he respects Kerry for his Vietnam service
despite that he will be voting for Bush -- shows that Mr. Ed is NOT a sheep
just following along with Faux News.

It really ****es me off when people do what you just did. You disagree with
the guy so you start a personal attack on him. Save your attcks for people
that deserve them - god knows there are plenty of 'em.

Note: I agree with Mr. Ed that Kerry should be admired for going
to Vietnam at all and I disagree that Bush is any good for America
as President.

Gary

jim-- wrote:


And your "Center for Cooperative Research" group is just another moveon.org
clone whose purpose is to discredit GWB any way they can.

No one is discrediting Bush. Bush has screwed up just about everything
since he presumed office, and his mountain of failure is visible for all
to see. What's happening is that more and more Americans are pointing
out those failures.

I can't think of ONE area where Bush has done anything to improve the
lot of the average working American. Virtually everything he has done
has been little more than a pay-off to his contributors and base.

Bush is a whore. It's time for him to go.



--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 13:14:28 -0400, jim-- wrote:


He continued to read stories to the children after being told that a plane
crashed into the first tower? Link?

And if so, was he to know at that time that it was a terrorist attack and
what was he to have done? That thought (a terrorist attack) certainly did
not cross my mind after the initial crash, nor the minds of the newspeople
reporting it.

Was it immediately apparent to you? What should the President have done?

Uh, you are a little confused. Bush had already been informed of the
first attack, the seven minutes being referred to are after Card whispered
to Bush "A second plane hit the second tower. America is under attack."
He did nothing.

To be generous, there are staff professionals expected to deal with
unforeseen events, but if Bush were a "hands on" administrator one could
expect him to take the lead. In any event, Bush's behavior then, and in
the subsequent flight around the country, were not his finest hours.

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/t...estingday.html

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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forge wrote:

In article , "jim--"
wrote:


So your discussion resorts to childish insults, a sure sign you can no
longer support your position.

Whaa-? His position is that you're an idiot. The other stuff we've been
saying is not "position," it's record.



You'll have to cut "Jim-" here some slack. He is among the dumbest
posters in the rec.boats newsgroup,

He-he-he. And obviously you and basskisser take the prize for being *the*
dumbest.

jim-- wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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forge wrote:

In article , "jim--"
wrote:


So your discussion resorts to childish insults, a sure sign you can no
longer support your position.

Whaa-? His position is that you're an idiot. The other stuff we've been
saying is not "position," it's record.



You'll have to cut "Jim-" here some slack. He is among the dumbest
posters in the rec.boats newsgroup,

He-he-he. And obviously you and basskisser take the prize for being *the*
dumbest.



Oh, really? I'm certain that if an "honest" simultaneous IQ test could
be arranged, not only would I score significantly higher than you, so
would almost almost any regular poster in the newsgroup. Even Jax. You
have a closed mind.



--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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jim-- wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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forge wrote:

In article , "jim--"
wrote:


So your discussion resorts to childish insults, a sure sign you can no
longer support your position.

Whaa-? His position is that you're an idiot. The other stuff we've been
saying is not "position," it's record.



You'll have to cut "Jim-" here some slack. He is among the dumbest
posters in the rec.boats newsgroup,

He-he-he. And obviously you and basskisser take the prize for being
*the*
dumbest.



Oh, really? I'm certain that if an "honest" simultaneous IQ test could
be arranged, not only would I score significantly higher than you, so
would almost almost any regular poster in the newsgroup. Even Jax. You
have a closed mind.


Dance Krause, dance. It is ever so easy to make a fool of you.

On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 17:01:34 -0400, Gactimus wrote:

Patrick Hynes at Crush Kerry gives a preview of his Swiftie book review:

"I received my review copy of Unfit for Command and read the entire book in
one sitting. The first draft of my book review is complete and I will
submit it to my editor at The American Spectator this morning. Everyone
needs to order this book today and share it with every undecided voter you
know. The John Kerry we learn about in Unfit for Command is less truthful
than Bill Clinton, less competent than Jimmy Carter, and less grounded in
reality than Howard Dean. A troubling read."

I was heartened to see a new cast of characters in this latest thread. As I
asked myself why there would suddenly be these new, fresh faces in the crowd, I
chanced to read the headers.

This thread is currently being crossposted to these newsgroups:

rec.boats
alt.space*******s
alt.war.vietnam
comp.sys.mac.advocacy
alt.os.windows-xp
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
soc.veterans
alt.abortion

Quite a mix, isn't it!

It is also a surefire way to create flames in a newsgroup.

Most sincerely,
W.T. hatch

Interesting that rec.boats is included with such distinguished company as
space*******s.alt. It does say something about how rec.boats is percieved by
the iinternet community.

"forge" wrote in message
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In article , Matt Osborn
wrote:

Just what was Bush suppose to do in your estimation? Jump up and shoot
the teacher?. Perhaps he should have fired nuclear weapons at China?
Maybe he should have run back to the White house where the next plane
would have had a better chance of taking him out?

Our government has all sorts of people who figure out what is going on
and then ask the President to make choices.

This 'seven minutes' is as disingenuous as it gets.

The point of his being stuck in that classroom for so long, is that the
Commander in Chief was incommunicado to his all-important squad of
assistants and advisers while sitting in front of a classroom full of
little kids on a *photo opportunity.* What ANY Commander in Chief of the
United States Armed Forces is supposed to do, when the United States is
attacked, is drop everything and get his ass to a command center,
preferably Air Force One which is probably the most-connected
communications center on Earth, and talk to his people so that the hard
decisions can be made - like, should we scramble jets and disable these
jets before they hit the second tower, before they hit the Pentagon?
Which are decisions that ONLY the President can make.

As for the "it would have scared the kids" excuse, pardon me, bull****.
"I'm sorry kids, the President has some Presidential business to take
care of, so y'all have a great day and we'll reschedule this for another
time! Bye now!" And done.

How is this not common sense? Anyone? Bueller?

First you assume that they knew the first plane to hit the WTC was part of
an attack. They, as well as all of us on a boat off San Diego tuna fishing
that day, most likely thought it was a bad accident. Has happened before.
Bomber crashed into the Empire State Building years ago. And he was in
touch with his people. Those black Suburban's that follow him will have
great radio gear.
Both Kerry and Dashel admit, they had no idea of what to do either. When
the plane was blown up over Lockerbie, did the then President, call a war
council?