The Latest Republican Zogby Poll Results

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The Economy as Viewed From Main Street:

No Recovery Yet, New Zogby Poll Reveals One in five has fears of
losing job in the coming year;

Same number earning less than previous job


The optimism of a rebounding economy hasn’t yet trickled down to Main
Street, USA, where 20% still say they are afraid they or someone in
their immediate family will lose a job within the next year.

And 21% say they are working at a job that pays less than an immediate
previous job.

The telephone poll of 1,001 likely voters nationwide was conducted
November 17-19, 2003 by Zogby International.

The margin of error for the Zogby America poll is ± 3.2 percentage
points, and margins are higher in sub-groups.

In a Clinton-era June 1999 Zogby poll, just one in ten (10%) feared
losing a job in the coming year, and the same number said they were
working at a job paying less than an immediate previous job.

Earlier this summer, 22% feared losing a job within the next year, and
19% said they were working for less than before.

The June 6, 2003 poll by Zogby International interviewed 1,012 likely
voters nationwide.

In the most recent polling, slightly more (24%) of people in the West
feared losing their job than those in the South (18%), East (19%), and
Central-Great Lakes area (21%).

High school graduates were more confident of not losing their job
within the year (85%), compared to just over three in four of those
with less than a high school education (78%), respondents with some
college education (78%) and those with a college or advanced degree
(79%).

The more they make, the more they fear losing their job

One-fourth (25%) of those with annual household income of $75,000 or
more fear losing their job within the next year, as do 22% of those in
the $50-75K range.

Just over one in five (21%) of those earning $25-50K fear a job loss
in the future, as do 17% of those earning $25K or less.

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Harry Krause wrote:

The Latest Republican Zogby Poll Results......

....is meaningless. What people THINK about the economy means nothing.
What the actual numbers show the economy is doing, is the only indicator
that matters.

Dave

The Latest Republican Zogby Poll Results......

...is meaningless. What people THINK about the economy means nothing.

Screwy statement, Dave.

What people think about the economy will influence their behavior. People who
are uncertain about the future are less likely to
go into debt for a major purchase, hire employees, invest in a business, etc.

After 3 years of you guys on the right denying that there ever was a recession
(or if there was, it was certainly Clinton's fault), it's a hoot to see you
assembled into some impromptu barbershop quartet
after a few weks of better economic news singing "Happy Days are Here Again."
:-)

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
The Latest Republican Zogby Poll Results......

...is meaningless. What people THINK about the economy means nothing.

Screwy statement, Dave.

What people think about the economy will influence their behavior. People
who
are uncertain about the future are less likely to
go into debt for a major purchase, hire employees, invest in a business,
etc.

Absolutely...and consumer confidence jumped ten points last month.



After 3 years of you guys on the right denying that there ever was a
recession

Who denied there was a recession? I began to say there was a recession
towards the end of 2000...when the stock market was starting to fall.


(or if there was, it was certainly Clinton's fault),

It was not any one person's fault. It was a combination of things that
occurred in the late 90's.


it's a hoot to see you
assembled into some impromptu barbershop quartet
after a few weks of better economic news singing "Happy Days are Here
Again."
:-)

After a few weeks? Try, since the beginning of the year.

"Gould 0738" wrote in messag

after a few weks of better economic news singing "Happy Days are Here
Again."

Months, Chuck, months. Several months of better economic news. I'm sure
it was an inadvertent slip.

JG

I am beginning to think some people don't want the economy to improve, they
want the recession to continue until there guy gets elected. Talk about
partisan.


"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...

"Gould 0738" wrote in messag

after a few weks of better economic news singing "Happy Days are Here
Again."

Months, Chuck, months. Several months of better economic news. I'm sure
it was an inadvertent slip.

JG

"Jack Meholf" wrote

I am beginning to think some people don't want the economy to improve,
they
want the recession to continue until there guy gets elected. Talk about
partisan.

What you've hit on is the overarching premise that drives Democratic policy
on virtually every issue of substance -- poverty, race, medicare, education,
etc., etc. They want to own the issue, not resolve it. Keep the poor
****ed at the wealthy, keep minorities convinced they're being screwed, keep
the elderly afraid, keep the kids brain-numbed. All these tracks lead to
greater dependence on government programs.

John Gaquin wrote:

"Jack Meholf" wrote

I am beginning to think some people don't want the economy to improve,
they
want the recession to continue until there guy gets elected. Talk about
partisan.

What you've hit on is the overarching premise that drives Democratic policy
on virtually every issue of substance -- poverty, race, medicare, education,
etc., etc. They want to own the issue, not resolve it. Keep the poor
****ed at the wealthy, keep minorities convinced they're being screwed, keep
the elderly afraid, keep the kids brain-numbed. All these tracks lead to
greater dependence on government programs.


B-I-N-G-O-!!!!!

Dave

Gould 0738 wrote:

The Latest Republican Zogby Poll Results......

...is meaningless. What people THINK about the economy means nothing.

Screwy statement, Dave.

No it's not. If you ask a bunch of er.... "minimally educated", people
what they think the state of the economy is, how is that relevant?
Unless you're Alan Greenspan or Lou Dobbs, or make your living in a
related field, your opinion is meaningless. I know very little about
boat brokering. What if I took a survey of my boating friends (Many of
whom have never used a broker) and 75% of them said that they felt
brokers were a big rip-off. What would it mean?



What people think about the economy will influence their behavior. People who
are uncertain about the future are less likely to
go into debt for a major purchase, hire employees, invest in a business, etc.

Ah! You have hit on a big point here. Perception is a big part of the
picture. When the media reports that the economy is crashing, the people
cease spending, and they exacerbate the problem. The reverse is also
true. I wonder why the left leaning (supporters of democrats) keep
floating the notion that the economy is not recovering? It couldn't be
that they WANT the economy to stay in the hole, so they have a bigger
political issue in 2004 could it? Nah.......



After 3 years of you guys on the right denying that there ever was a recession
(or if there was, it was certainly Clinton's fault), it's a hoot to see you
assembled into some impromptu barbershop quartet
after a few weks of better economic news singing "Happy Days are Here Again."

Read the numbers. The major economic indicators are showing growth. You
can either accept that, or pull a Harry and try to spin the numbers into
something that they're not.

Dave

November 26, 2003



The Conference Board's Help-Wanted Advertising Index – a key barometer of
America's job market – was 37 in October, unchanged from the previous month.
The Index was 40 a year ago.

In the last three months, help-wanted advertising declined in seven of the nine
U.S. regions. Steepest declines occurred in the Mountain (-10.4%), Middle
Atlantic (-9.3%) and South Atlantic (-7.0%) regions.

Says Conference Board Economist Ken Goldstein: “Employers are in a
wait-and-see mode when it comes to hiring. Although consumers continue to feel
that jobs are hard to get right now, they do expect the job climate to improve
over the next six months. Leading indicator data are also in-line with trends
in consumer confidence and job advertising. The Coincident Economic Index (the
best economic measure of where we are) started to improve in May and continued
to advance through October. The Leading Economic Index now suggests the economy
will continue rising into early 2004. But overall, job advertising volume is
not moving up yet, awaiting more positive news.�

The Conference Board surveys help-wanted advertising volume in 51 major
newspapers across the country every month. Because ad volume has proven to be
sensitive to labor market conditions, this measure provides an important gauge
of change in the local, regional and national supply of jobs.