I have the opportunity to add a new engine onto an older, re-built 16 ft.
flats boat with a tunnel hull. It will be a 50 h.p. according to the ratings
etc.. I've read a lot recently about the new 4 cycles not having anywhere
near the "pep" that the 2 cycles do. The weight difference is 50 lbs between
two choices of engines, and the engine will be hung on a jack-plate. As a
comparison, I'm looking at 2 and 4 cycle Yamahas, though the final choice
might be Johnson/Evinrude or Mercury. The cost difference is not the
over-riding issue this time.

The typical running pattern of this boat will be short, quick runs between
various flats. Longest run will be a few miles at a time. Getting up on
plane and racing a few hundred yards will not be unusual, with maybe a dozen
such moves over a half-day fishing. I might be working birds, which, of
course, requires getting up and "over there" as quickly as possible as an
important consideration. Any comments comparing the 2 vs. 4 strokes based on
power and pep? I know all about the discussion about pollution, banning 2
cycles, etc. and that is not part of my concerns today.

Thanks for your help. RichG

I have the opportunity to add a new engine onto an older, re-built 16 ft.
flats boat with a tunnel hull. It will be a 50 h.p. according to the ratings
etc.. I've read a lot recently about the new 4 cycles not having anywhere
near the "pep" that the 2 cycles do. The weight difference is 50 lbs between
two choices of engines, and the engine will be hung on a jack-plate. As a
comparison, I'm looking at 2 and 4 cycle Yamahas, though the final choice
might be Johnson/Evinrude or Mercury. The cost difference is not the
over-riding issue this time.

The typical running pattern of this boat will be short, quick runs between
various flats. Longest run will be a few miles at a time. Getting up on
plane and racing a few hundred yards will not be unusual, with maybe a dozen
such moves over a half-day fishing. I might be working birds, which, of
course, requires getting up and "over there" as quickly as possible as an
important consideration. Any comments comparing the 2 vs. 4 strokes based on
power and pep? I know all about the discussion about pollution, banning 2
cycles, etc. and that is not part of my concerns today.

Thanks for your help. RichG









I don't see where the question is. The 2 stroke meets all your criteria and the
4 stroke doesn't. And, I don't think you can beat the Yamaha's, except maybe in
price.

Barry

50hp is 50hp. 4 strokes are heavier. 2 strokes burn more gas and need oil.
Both are now pretty complicated.

"RG" wrote in message
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I have the opportunity to add a new engine onto an older, re-built 16 ft.
flats boat with a tunnel hull. It will be a 50 h.p. according to the
ratings
etc.. I've read a lot recently about the new 4 cycles not having anywhere
near the "pep" that the 2 cycles do. The weight difference is 50 lbs
between
two choices of engines, and the engine will be hung on a jack-plate. As a
comparison, I'm looking at 2 and 4 cycle Yamahas, though the final choice
might be Johnson/Evinrude or Mercury. The cost difference is not the
over-riding issue this time.

The typical running pattern of this boat will be short, quick runs between
various flats. Longest run will be a few miles at a time. Getting up on
plane and racing a few hundred yards will not be unusual, with maybe a
dozen
such moves over a half-day fishing. I might be working birds, which, of
course, requires getting up and "over there" as quickly as possible as an
important consideration. Any comments comparing the 2 vs. 4 strokes based
on
power and pep? I know all about the discussion about pollution, banning 2
cycles, etc. and that is not part of my concerns today.

Thanks for your help. RichG

50hp is 50hp. 4 strokes are heavier. 2 strokes burn more gas and need oil.
Both are now pretty complicate

The Honda 4 stroke is about the same weight as a 2 stroke but with that said I
agree with the first poster. This guy would probably be as happy with a 2
stroke. 2 strokes are usually the best choice for guys who use the throttle as
a switch. (off or wide open)
If he added trolling to his list of requirements I would say 4 stroke since
they are a lot better at low RPMs

50hp is 50hp. 4 strokes are heavier. 2 strokes burn more gas and need
oil.
Both are now pretty complicate

The Honda 4 stroke is about the same weight as a 2 stroke but with that
said I
agree with the first poster. This guy would probably be as happy with a 2
stroke. 2 strokes are usually the best choice for guys who use the
throttle as
a switch. (off or wide open)


I think this would be an good application for the new Evinrude E-TEC 50hp
outboard. It has the smoothness, quietness and smoke-free operation of a
4-stroke along with the acceleration and performance of a 2-stroke. The best
part is that it does not need the extra maintenance and expense that a 4
stroke requires. They are available now, come with a full 3 year warranty,
and in-field reports are very favorable. Check out the www.evinrude.com web
site for info and specs.

Bill Grannis
service manager

Thanks for pointing out the trolling issue. Trolling is NOT a normal
operation for me on the Texas flats where the boat would be used. If it
were, it certainly would change my outlook.

Please keep the comments coming and thanks to all of you. RichG


"Greg" wrote in message
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50hp is 50hp. 4 strokes are heavier. 2 strokes burn more gas and need
oil.
Both are now pretty complicate

The Honda 4 stroke is about the same weight as a 2 stroke but with that
said I
agree with the first poster. This guy would probably be as happy with a 2
stroke. 2 strokes are usually the best choice for guys who use the
throttle as
a switch. (off or wide open)
If he added trolling to his list of requirements I would say 4 stroke
since
they are a lot better at low RPMs

The best
part is that it does not need the extra maintenance and expense that a 4
stroke requires

What extra maintenance? You mean the oil change? 10-30 is a lot cheaper than
TCW-3 and I don't use as much. That leaves me with unscrewing a filter. Plugs
will last a whole lot longer on a 4 stroke. I had mine replaced at 400 hours
but I am saving the old ones, they look brand new.
If cars are any indication a set of plugs on a FI, 4 stroke burning unleaded
should last at least 1000 hours.

Billgran wrote:

50hp is 50hp. 4 strokes are heavier. 2 strokes burn more gas and need
oil.
Both are now pretty complicate

The Honda 4 stroke is about the same weight as a 2 stroke but with that
said I
agree with the first poster. This guy would probably be as happy with a 2
stroke. 2 strokes are usually the best choice for guys who use the
throttle as
a switch. (off or wide open)


I think this would be an good application for the new Evinrude E-TEC 50hp
outboard. It has the smoothness, quietness and smoke-free operation of a
4-stroke along with the acceleration and performance of a 2-stroke. The best
part is that it does not need the extra maintenance and expense that a 4
stroke requires. They are available now, come with a full 3 year warranty,
and in-field reports are very favorable. Check out the www.evinrude.com web
site for info and specs.

Bill Grannis
service manager



Nice to see your smiling face, Bill. Any magazine articles upcoming?

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Nice to see your smiling face, Bill. Any magazine articles upcoming?

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You'll see one soon on comparing 4-stroke oils, outboard and automotive.
Others coming up are the real emissions story about regulations and
debunking misinformation,; decarbonizing outboards; and one on the true
maintenance costs of 4-strokes verses DFI outboards. Trailer Boats will be
doing an updated spin on fuel filter test and comparison in a month or so,
also.

Bill Grannis
service manager

Billgran wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Nice to see your smiling face, Bill. Any magazine articles upcoming?

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You'll see one soon on comparing 4-stroke oils, outboard and automotive.
Others coming up are the real emissions story about regulations and
debunking misinformation,; decarbonizing outboards; and one on the true
maintenance costs of 4-strokes verses DFI outboards. Trailer Boats will be
doing an updated spin on fuel filter test and comparison in a month or so,
also.

Bill Grannis
service manager



Please make sure you let us know where to find them.

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