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Icon O'Clast wrote:
On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 19:39:25 GMT, Gunner
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We will never forget.



Good thing too. Never forget that charging a group of scared, heavily
armed people with mayhem on your mind may lead to your death.


Why are you such an apologist for bushCo and other fascist government
actions?


Because he's a gun nutsy.



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On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:46:49 +0000, Calif Bill wrote:


Respect for the police does not allow them to break the laws. Where were
you when the were teaching about the Constitution of the USA? Some cop
says he wants to seach my home, boat, etc. without a warrant, and I am not
caught in the act of committing a felony, I will tell the cop he can go
pound sand! Was one of the reason the American Revolution was fought.


Just make sure you give your name if he asks.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0622/p01s01-usju.html
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In article , Jim
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Lawful my ass! -- no order to shoot was given, several of
those killed were not part of the demenstration, merely
walking to class and hit by "errant" bullets


It's lawful anytime the law (gov t) does it. It's unlawful anytime you
protest the law. Scumbags (taxpayers) are not entitled to the bill of
rights

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Nick Hull wrote:
In article , Jim
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Lawful my ass! -- no order to shoot was given, several of
those killed were not part of the demenstration, merely
walking to class and hit by "errant" bullets


It's lawful anytime the law (gov t) does it. It's unlawful anytime you
protest the law. Scumbags (taxpayers) are not entitled to the bill of
rights


It's just another example, albeit historial, of the wonderful face of
democracy we offer the world when the fascist Republicans are in office.

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Gunner wrote:
On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:07:05 -0400, Harry Krause
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If you consider mayhem and assault, vandalism and violence to be
proper expressions of Dissent, then pray to whatever you hold holy
that the Right never takes your lead. We are the ones heavily armed,
military trained in killing people and breaking things. You will pray
for rocks if the Right ever uses your style of dissent.

Gunner


Yeah, the "right" sticks to blowing up federal office buildings,
abortion clinics, and invading the wrong countries...for now.


Cites? Or are you going to give me some cites about individuals?


Virtually all the terrorist attacks of significance in recent years have
been the work of conservative, right-wing assholes and the groups to
which they belong...Osama, McVeigh, Cheney, et al.


Our nation is the product of terrorism. The American Revolution was spawned
by a long history of terrorist action, as well as civil disobedience, media
manipulation, general rabble rousing, and the whole panoply of tools long
used by the less powerful against their oppressors. Forthermore, we
reintroduced the concept of terrorizing civilians in warfare, during the War
of Northern Agression, when Gen. Sherman and Co. perfected it to a high art.
The Indian wars were full of terrorist acts by both sides. One man's
terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

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"Gunner" wrote in message

Icon O'Clast wrote:
Terrorist Attack at Ohio School -- 13 shot, 4 dead
Kent State, May 4, 1970. Lessons from History News(c) 2004


However..violent actions while dissenting is unlawful


Thus the statement that the National Guard was, in this instance at least,
a terrorist vehicle, if not organization.

Dan


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"Gunner" wrote

If you consider mayhem and assault, vandalism and violence to be
proper expressions of Dissent, then pray to whatever you hold holy
that the Right never takes your lead. We are the ones heavily armed,
military trained in killing people and breaking things. You will pray
for rocks if the Right ever uses your style of dissent.


Methinks you have it backward. The Neocon style of "dissent" (i.e.,
antidemocracy) is EXACTLY mayhem, assault, vandalism, violence,
and breaking things. The fact that, as of yet, only a few have taken out
their guns is fortunate for them, for they are cowards and easily frightened
and intimidated. If they ever took to actually following through with
their idiotic private fantasies, they would be rounded up en masse and
treated as they would treat others in their fantasy world. Control of
the media will only continue so long.

Runner, you are a coward and a fool. Keep talking, and prove it again
and again.

Dan


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"Gunner" wrote

Consider the guilt of the protestors who forced the Guard to fire.


Consider someone who researched the incident extensively in the early 70s.

There was NO guilty behavior of any kind on the part of the protestors.
The Guard were ordered out by idiots. The poor dumb kids with the
rifles were pretty much as victimized as their targets.

Dan


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