Ever notice how when you try to talk to a liberal about politics they always
get mad and throw personal attacks? I'm sure Harry has a lot of people in
his "bozo bin". Harry, I disagree with you and your politics, but I would
never belittle you, because you are another human being.

Bill

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Gunner wrote:
On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:07:05 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

If you consider mayhem and assault, vandalism and violence to be
proper expressions of Dissent, then pray to whatever you hold holy
that the Right never takes your lead. We are the ones heavily armed,
military trained in killing people and breaking things. You will pray
for rocks if the Right ever uses your style of dissent.

Gunner


Yeah, the "right" sticks to blowing up federal office buildings,
abortion clinics, and invading the wrong countries...for now.

Cites? Or are you going to give me some cites about individuals?

Virtually all the terrorist attacks of significance in recent years have
been the work of conservative, right-wing assholes and the groups to
which they belong...Osama, McVeigh, Cheney, et al.


Want me to post some cites about individuals on the Left? I can you
know...quite a number.

I don't give a crap what you post, dickwiper. You're now in my bozo
bin, along with the other mental defectives.

Gunner, eh? Did your mama name you after the dog?


--
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
And don't forget to pay your taxes so the rich don't have to!

"Gunner" wrote

Of course no order to fire was given. And as Ive previously noted..if
Im attacked by a mob, Im not going to wait for a fire order.

Were they attacked by a mob, they would have been justified in
firing.

As to having no business on campus..when an area is under riot
conditions, that is exactly what the Guard is for.

There were no riot conditions, so the Guard should not
have been ordered onto campus. Simple.

But, of course, to Neocons, any peaceful protest is a "riot."
I guess that comes from being ignorant cowards.

Dan

Dan wrote:
"Gunner" wrote

Of course no order to fire was given. And as Ive previously noted..if
Im attacked by a mob, Im not going to wait for a fire order.

Were they attacked by a mob, they would have been justified in
firing.

As to having no business on campus..when an area is under riot
conditions, that is exactly what the Guard is for.

There were no riot conditions, so the Guard should not
have been ordered onto campus. Simple.

But, of course, to Neocons, any peaceful protest is a "riot."
I guess that comes from being ignorant cowards.

Dan


The national guard attack on the students in Ohio clearly shows what
happens when idiots are allowed to have guns.

--
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
And don't forget to pay your taxes so the rich don't have to!

Icon O'Clast spouts:

-And why not on September 11? Is it not a good day to remember terrorists
and their victims?
Terrorism: Any act of violence that you do not happen to agree with.-

Bilge- It never occurred to you that there are millions of Americans holding
their breaths today and waiting for Pig-****er Bin-Laden to drop his "other
sandal"?

Millions of people, not just here in America, but around the world are praying
that this accursed day passes uneventfully.

And you, clever boy, dredge up a 34 year old issue and post it like its' fresh
news...

Just to get some attention for your inane arguments?

I don't give two tiny ****s for the Kent State dead...today...I give even less
for whatever half-witted point you might be trying to make, funny guy.

You are a selfish asshole of the first water.

Why are you still here bleating your bull****? ...you were told at least
twice, with several seconding opinions, to go **** yourself:


NOW TURN OFF YOUR COMPUTER, GET OFF YOUR ASS, AND GO **** YOURSELF LIKE YOU
WERE INSTRUCTED TO DO!

GO **** YOURSELF


Mutiny is a Management Tool
Select Your Tattoo while Sober

On 12 Sep 2004 02:25:15 GMT, (Bilgeman) wrote:

Millions of people, not just here in America, but around the world are praying
that this accursed day passes uneventfully.

Then vote bush out of office. He is creating more terrorists on a
daily basis.

Open your eyes and mind.

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:51:01 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Gunner wrote:
On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:07:05 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

If you consider mayhem and assault, vandalism and violence to be
proper expressions of Dissent, then pray to whatever you hold holy
that the Right never takes your lead. We are the ones heavily armed,
military trained in killing people and breaking things. You will pray
for rocks if the Right ever uses your style of dissent.

Gunner


Yeah, the "right" sticks to blowing up federal office buildings,
abortion clinics, and invading the wrong countries...for now.

Cites? Or are you going to give me some cites about individuals?

Virtually all the terrorist attacks of significance in recent years have
been the work of conservative, right-wing assholes and the groups to
which they belong...Osama, McVeigh, Cheney, et al.

Osama and Co. is a Religious Fundimentalist. Not a right winger.
McVeigh was a stooge for the left wing Clinton Administration. Cheney
did what exactly?


Want me to post some cites about individuals on the Left? I can you
know...quite a number.

I don't give a crap what you post, dickwiper. You're now in my bozo
bin, along with the other mental defectives.

Yawn.

Gunner, eh? Did your mama name you after the dog?

No..after Gunner Asch.

Gunner Asch

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:08:06 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Dan wrote:
"Gunner" wrote

Of course no order to fire was given. And as Ive previously noted..if
Im attacked by a mob, Im not going to wait for a fire order.

Were they attacked by a mob, they would have been justified in
firing.

As to having no business on campus..when an area is under riot
conditions, that is exactly what the Guard is for.

There were no riot conditions, so the Guard should not
have been ordered onto campus. Simple.

But, of course, to Neocons, any peaceful protest is a "riot."
I guess that comes from being ignorant cowards.

Dan


The national guard attack on the students in Ohio clearly shows what
happens when idiots are allowed to have guns.

No..the student attack on the national guard in in Ohio clearly shows
what happens when idiots attack armed men.

Shug.

Checkmate

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:30:22 GMT, Jim wrote:



Gunner wrote:
On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 20:49:53 GMT, Jim wrote:



The Kent State shootings basically took the fun out of the
protest movement. Had the military been used earlier, much of
the anti war movement would have never happened. Protests were
being treated as a party. The shooting made folks wake up.

And that is not terrorism. It was a lawful use of force.

Lawful my ass! -- no order to shoot was given, several of
those killed were not part of the demenstration, merely
walking to class and hit by "errant" bullets


Send button stuck? You were wrong in all three posts btw.

OK follows a long cut and paste resulting from a google
search "Kent State 1970" Suggest you read it in detail

http://www.spectacle.org/595/kent.html




Hell sonny boy..I was there. As a interested bystander less than 5
days after the riots ended.
I was also at the 1968 Democratic Convention. You were where exactly?

I was at work -- my 2nd son was born May 8, and 5 weeks
later I drove by the campus. After day 2 what was there to
see? Also as to the 68 convention, I just happened to work
with people who worked the press service. I worked the 76
Republican convention myself and take credit for the slogan
"Ford puts us on the Dole". It didn't take, but the press
people got a yuck out of it.

I was conservative like you until Kent state, then my eyes
were opened to the corruption of Nixon and Kissinger. Nixon
was finally caught -- I'm still waiting for Kissinger to be
called to answer for "Crimes against humanity"


Good for you.

Im still waiting for LBJ to be tried in Absentia for Crimes against
Humanity. Along with Bill Clinton.

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 20:29:38 -0400, Nick Hull
wrote:

In article , Jim
wrote:

Lawful my ass! -- no order to shoot was given, several of
those killed were not part of the demenstration, merely
walking to class and hit by "errant" bullets

It's lawful anytime the law (gov t) does it. It's unlawful anytime you
protest the law. Scumbags (taxpayers) are not entitled to the bill of
rights


Not so. It may well be unlawful either way. And often the only clear
winner is those who write the history books.

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 20:33:18 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:


It's lawful anytime the law (gov t) does it. It's unlawful anytime you
protest the law. Scumbags (taxpayers) are not entitled to the bill of
rights


It's just another example, albeit historial, of the wonderful face of
democracy we offer the world when the fascist Republicans are in office.

I must say that its a wonderful change from the face of democracy we
offer the world when the fascist Democrats are in office.

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke